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What was the deal with Jonathan Cheechoo?

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Dude initially looked like he'd be a career AHLer but got a chance in the NHL, had instant tremendous success and even won Rocket Richard trophy...then after just a few NHL seasons he disappeared forever in minor leagues again.

Looking at his career is pretty weird.
 
They used to call penalties and it resulted in games being wide open and players being unobstructed. The post lockout time of 05-07 was some of the best hockey you've ever seen.

Today Florida won a game with 14 shots on goal and a goal challenge.
 
Joe Thornton happened, then injuries. He made him an all star, then cheech slowly started getting worst as injuries got more severe.
Thornton got him to 56, but it's not like he was a slouch before that. Led the Sharks in goals the season before, tied with Marleau.

He was a slow skater, and once his knees went out, that was it.

He wasn't a bad player before but he was no where near the player Thornton made him. 28 goals and 47 points on a weak Sharks team is alright I suppose.
 
Joe Thornton happened, then injuries. He made him an all star, then cheech slowly started getting worst as injuries got more severe.


He wasn't a bad player before but he was no where near the player Thornton made him. 28 goals and 47 points on a weak Sharks team is alright I suppose.

What? They had 104 points that year and made it to the WCF.

Scoring was lower because it was pre-lockout.
 
He was never a fast skater, but was just fast enough to get where he needed to be to score the goals or defend. He then had a series of injuries that resulted in a permanent loss of skating speed. Once that happened, he simply wasn't fast enough to keep up in the newly post-lockout NHL. It's really as simple as that.

As for the Thornton notes: Yes, he wouldn't have won the Richard without Thornton feeding him, that's not really arguable. However, he was a very good goal scorer before Thornton got here too. Like others noted, he got 28 on the 2003-2004 Sharks team, good enough for 23rd in the league in a year when the most scored by anyone in the NHL was 41. So Thornton got him to the Richard, but he was a top goal scoring winger all on his own.

Ultimately, it was just incredibly sad to see, because he was obviously trying as hard as he possibly could, and you could tell he wanted so badly to succeed, but his body just let him down. He is still beloved by the Sharks' fan base, pretty much all of whom still love the guy. I know I hope they offer him a front office job when he decides to finally stop playing.
 
He was a great skater but wasn't overly fast. The double hernia surgery was just killer. He was a legit goal scorer before Jumbo.
 
Wasn't the same after double hernia surgery.

Twice iirc.

He scored 28 goals on a line with two players well past their primes (Ricci and Scott Thornton) at the apex of the clutch and grab era. Thornton certainly helped, but he was going to score goals regardless.
 
Cant give all the credit to Thornton, he was a legit player. Its like people who think Kessel would score 60 with Crosby or Heatley 60 with Thornton. Chemistry is a game for 2+. Sure Cheechoo benefited from Thornton but Thornton`s totals benefited from Cheechoo too.
 
He was a top 25 goal scorer in the lockout year. Who knows if he would've put up 35 or 40 goals the following year. If you look at the point totals for a lot of guys, there's a drastic change between 03/04 and 05/06. That year off was for, some people, their would-be prime. Particularly if you benefitted from having more time with the puck or didn't have to worry about hacks and whacks every time you took a wrist shot.

I think he was probably a 40 goal guy without Thornton but with an average 1C.
 
Yeah Cheechoo was a really good player. Injuries slowed him down too much, he was one of the best goal scorers in the league for a few years, and he would have been without Thornton as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't realize how good he actually was.
 
Really good scorer with incredible balance and strength on his skates but not fast and too slow for the NHL after double hernia injury.
 
What? They had 104 points that year and made it to the WCF.

Scoring was lower because it was pre-lockout.

That team was not that strong. Very defensive minded and caught fire at the right time. His 47 points to 97 points speak for itself. cheech would not be an all star if he was never with Joe.
 
it was just incredibly sad to see, because he was obviously trying as hard as he possibly could, and you could tell he wanted so badly to succeed

Just found this video from 2010...yeah it's pretty sad


 

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