Finally gave Shrinking another chance. My debilitating obsession with Severance started because I couldn't get into Shrinking right away.
I think my problem is this show suffers from the same kind of atmosphere you get from Ted Lasso. Where it's a comedy with higher than usual production values, fewer jokes per minute than a sitcom, smarter episodic writing and some heavy dramatic moments sprinkled throughout but a good chunk of the dialogue ends up feeling surreal. Like authentic dialgoue and character interaction but adjacent. A lot of sitcoms lean heavy into this vibe of "people don't really talk or act like this, it's just for the audience's amusement" but shows like Lasso and Shrinking try to present a more realistic and grounded form of conversational comedy where the characters are too quirky to be realistic but not enough of a caricature to be excusably absurd. I'm trying my best to describe it and this is the best I can come up with. Something about that tone turned me off on the first go around.
I think as the actors starting getting more comfortable in their roles, this dynamic wasn't as pronounced which let me enjoy it more. This might be one of my favorite Harrison Ford roles outside of my namesake. He's a delight every time he's on screen. I don't know that I'd call this one of the great comedies of all time by any means but it's a decent comfort comedy with some solid dramatic writing.
I ripped through about three episodes of season 2 last night and it feels like it's picked up a fair bit in quality.I think Shrinking has some of the best comedic writing on TV right now.
Sure, people don't exactly talk like that, and everyone seems to have an infinite reservoir of witty or lewd repartee (see Gilmore Girls), but that's what makes it more of a comedy than something like the Bear which for reason wins Golden Globes in the comedy category when none of the leads really do any comedy at all.
Everyone brings something to the table, with Jessica Williams, Harrison Ford and Christa Miller as the standouts IMO.
Isn't it a ~30 min/episode show? Those always get thrown into the comedy category.Also yes. The Bear as a comedy, at least for awards purposes, is a joke.. no pun intended. It's a procedural drama with some humorous moments written in from time to time. It's very good. But it's a stretch to say it's in the comedy genre.
Isn't it a ~30 min/episode show? Those always get thrown into the comedy category.
While I like the show, I do agree that the constant gore and civilian deaths has become numbing. And the characters surviving after being beaten to a literal pulp, like Angstrom Levy. Also, the hyperbole around the season 3 finale is ridiculous.Just finished Invincible. I'm a bit lukewarm on it. Like it handles mature themes in the scope a non traditional superhero narrative in a strong way and the character work is usually fairly strong. This feels like a different approach to what The Boys sets out to do, in subverting the superhero genre. This isn't a universe where the "heroes" are actually villains (for the most part) but it's similarly dark and even more violent.
But I think that's part of the rub for me. Invincible, as a character, is essentially Superman if Superman's adversity was turned up to 11. I get that the point of much of the show is testing not the invincibility of Mark's body, but of his spirit and convictions. That's not new ground for the superhero genre. The distinction is that Invincible and the other heroes have to face what the MCU would call an "Avengers level threat" every episode. Ranging from godzilla level threats on the low end to threats that would make Thanos blush.
I don't mind gore and violence and I understand that Kirkman was going for severe trauma and stakes beyond what we could fathom in the real world, but the emphasis on violent slaughter of innocent civilians in so many scenes really becomes exhausting at some point in tandem with how this show never leaves the heroes any real time to breathe before it's time to take on the latest mega threat of the week. By the time I got to the mid point of season 3 I felt just worn out and disinterested in seeing more of the same.
A superhero that faces no adversity is boring. A superhero that exists solely to endure progressively insane hardships and adversity, it turns out-at least for me-is also boring. Yeah season 3 showed cracks in Invincible's moral convictions but on the whole there's no concern that Mark is ever seriously going to turn super villain. So his story ultimately becomes long form misery porn. And after making myself stomach the last two episodes, I'm not sure I have it in me to watch future seasons.
It's still an impressively made animated superhero show and I believe it has merit, I've just reached a point where I personally don't have much interest left in continuing.
Yeah my YouTube feed was filled with click bait videos of how it is a masterpiece and changes animation or the super hero genre forever. Like...no? I mean sure the animated action was incredible. But like...it was a higher budget version of the Invincible-Omni Man fight withWhile I like the show, I do agree that the constant gore and civilian deaths has become numbing. And the characters surviving after being beaten to a literal pulp, like Angstrom Levy. Also, the hyperbole around the season 3 finale is ridiculous.
Yeah, I mean it has 9.9 score at IMDB with over 68K votes and the reviews are exactly like you described. I thought the season finale was good, I'd give it a 8½ or 9, the added dialogue JDM did for Conquest was dark as hell but...I mean animation is one of the weaker points of the show at times. I felt X-men '97 and What If...? are much better when it comes to animation quality, their styles provided amazing action sequences and fights. Not forgetting Arcane of course.Yeah my YouTube feed was filled with click bait videos of how it is a masterpiece and changes animation or the super hero genre forever. Like...no? I mean sure the animated action was incredible. But like...it was a higher budget version of the Invincible-Omni Man fight witha "better" outcome
Jeffrey Dean Morgan's voice work was pretty top notch but Conquest amounted to little more than "what if Omni-Man was crazier?" The Atom Eve sequence of the fight was probably the best part but that still literally ends in a huge plot armor moment.
Spoiler free question:
Everyone is talking about Severance, so I watched the first two episodes and I'm not feeling it. The premise is odd, and about 80% of it is long shots of walking through hallways. Half of me is interested in seeing where it goes but the other half of me is ready to move on to something more interesting.
Is this one of those shows that gets better as you get further in? Because it's kind of a slow setup. I like Adam Scott and Joh Turturro, but so far not entirely captivated.
Spoiler free question:
Everyone is talking about Severance, so I watched the first two episodes and I'm not feeling it. The premise is odd, and about 80% of it is long shots of walking through hallways. Half of me is interested in seeing where it goes but the other half of me is ready to move on to something more interesting.
Is this one of those shows that gets better as you get further in? Because it's kind of a slow setup. I like Adam Scott and Joh Turturro, but so far not entirely captivated.
It's very much a your mileage may vary kind of thing. If you're not captivated by, say episode 4, I think you can still enjoy it, but if you're not truly hooked by trying to work through the mysteries and contemplated the themes of existence, identity, corporate control, etc., and you just kind of want the show to reach its conclusions without asking too many questions along the way, I mean...theres still entertainment value to be had. But probably limited overall enjoyment. I can't remember which episode it was but there's a pretty heavy moment involving Helly early on. If that hasn't locked you in, then it might not be for you.You’ll probably get a range of opinions in the replies; I also find a lot of the camera work (and some other things) kind of annoying but overall I would say it’s worth sticking with it. Give it at least the full first season. At that point you should have at least some idea where the show might be headed. I wouldn’t say it’s a show that keeps your attention riveted every minute of every episode though. More of a slow burn kind of thing.
In case you haven't already seen this...Well back to Shrinking. I think there's a dedicated thread but I don't like necrobumping.
All caught up now. Season 1 was pretty good. In spite of my gripes. Season 2 is outstanding.
More for anyone who's actually watched but I'll keep the spoiler tag for anyone who still wants to
Man I'm not the type to tear up or cry too often with movies or TV at this age, but this season got me twice in the span of two episodes. Jimmy letting it all go and apologizing properly to Alice was so f***ing well written and so well acted. I try not to let my vulnerability out on the internet where no one's asking for it but I understood so well that feeling of regret and self hatred. You can't start to forgive yourself until you fully face that past trauma and that was so well incorporated over the course of these two seasons.
Then Paul's Thanksgiving speech I feel like it's self explanatory. Harrison Ford is so f***ing electric in this role when he needs to be. Seriously genius casting.