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Just finished adolescence.

Really great mini-series that puts focus on what a lot of young men today have to grow up with and how it can cause them to become radicalized misogynists, or more simply put, red pilled.

If you have young kids you should watch this series.
 
Just finished Invincible. I'm a bit lukewarm on it. Like it handles mature themes in the scope a non traditional superhero narrative in a strong way and the character work is usually fairly strong. This feels like a different approach to what The Boys sets out to do, in subverting the superhero genre. This isn't a universe where the "heroes" are actually villains (for the most part) but it's similarly dark and even more violent.

But I think that's part of the rub for me. Invincible, as a character, is essentially Superman if Superman's adversity was turned up to 11. I get that the point of much of the show is testing not the invincibility of Mark's body, but of his spirit and convictions. That's not new ground for the superhero genre. The distinction is that Invincible and the other heroes have to face what the MCU would call an "Avengers level threat" every episode. Ranging from godzilla level threats on the low end to threats that would make Thanos blush.

I don't mind gore and violence and I understand that Kirkman was going for severe trauma and stakes beyond what we could fathom in the real world, but the emphasis on violent slaughter of innocent civilians in so many scenes really becomes exhausting at some point in tandem with how this show never leaves the heroes any real time to breathe before it's time to take on the latest mega threat of the week. By the time I got to the mid point of season 3 I felt just worn out and disinterested in seeing more of the same.

A superhero that faces no adversity is boring. A superhero that exists solely to endure progressively insane hardships and adversity, it turns out-at least for me-is also boring. Yeah season 3 showed cracks in Invincible's moral convictions but on the whole there's no concern that Mark is ever seriously going to turn super villain. So his story ultimately becomes long form misery porn. And after making myself stomach the last two episodes, I'm not sure I have it in me to watch future seasons.

It's still an impressively made animated superhero show and I believe it has merit, I've just reached a point where I personally don't have much interest left in continuing.
 
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Just started Goliath on Prime. How I’ve never come across this before idk but I love it. Top notch acting. BBT & William Hurt in the same show?
 
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I watched the miniseries Waco last week and thought it was pretty good. Maybe not completely accurate as there's still some debate as to what actually happened.

Watching Adolescence now.
 
Finally gave Shrinking another chance. My debilitating obsession with Severance started because I couldn't get into Shrinking right away.

I think my problem is this show suffers from the same kind of atmosphere you get from Ted Lasso. Where it's a comedy with higher than usual production values, fewer jokes per minute than a sitcom, smarter episodic writing and some heavy dramatic moments sprinkled throughout but a good chunk of the dialogue ends up feeling surreal. Like authentic dialgoue and character interaction but adjacent. A lot of sitcoms lean heavy into this vibe of "people don't really talk or act like this, it's just for the audience's amusement" but shows like Lasso and Shrinking try to present a more realistic and grounded form of conversational comedy where the characters are too quirky to be realistic but not enough of a caricature to be excusably absurd. I'm trying my best to describe it and this is the best I can come up with. Something about that tone turned me off on the first go around.

I think as the actors starting getting more comfortable in their roles, this dynamic wasn't as pronounced which let me enjoy it more. This might be one of my favorite Harrison Ford roles outside of my namesake. He's a delight every time he's on screen. I don't know that I'd call this one of the great comedies of all time by any means but it's a decent comfort comedy with some solid dramatic writing.
 
Almost through Ripley. What a great slow burn of a show. Cinematography is award-level. Dialog is minimalist and that adds tension and weight.
 
Finally gave Shrinking another chance. My debilitating obsession with Severance started because I couldn't get into Shrinking right away.

I think my problem is this show suffers from the same kind of atmosphere you get from Ted Lasso. Where it's a comedy with higher than usual production values, fewer jokes per minute than a sitcom, smarter episodic writing and some heavy dramatic moments sprinkled throughout but a good chunk of the dialogue ends up feeling surreal. Like authentic dialgoue and character interaction but adjacent. A lot of sitcoms lean heavy into this vibe of "people don't really talk or act like this, it's just for the audience's amusement" but shows like Lasso and Shrinking try to present a more realistic and grounded form of conversational comedy where the characters are too quirky to be realistic but not enough of a caricature to be excusably absurd. I'm trying my best to describe it and this is the best I can come up with. Something about that tone turned me off on the first go around.

I think as the actors starting getting more comfortable in their roles, this dynamic wasn't as pronounced which let me enjoy it more. This might be one of my favorite Harrison Ford roles outside of my namesake. He's a delight every time he's on screen. I don't know that I'd call this one of the great comedies of all time by any means but it's a decent comfort comedy with some solid dramatic writing.

I think Shrinking has some of the best comedic writing on TV right now.

Sure, people don't exactly talk like that, and everyone seems to have an infinite reservoir of witty or lewd repartee (see Gilmore Girls), but that's what makes it more of a comedy than something like the Bear which for reason wins Golden Globes in the comedy category when none of the leads really do any comedy at all.

Everyone brings something to the table, with Jessica Williams, Harrison Ford and Christa Miller as the standouts IMO.
 
I think Shrinking has some of the best comedic writing on TV right now.

Sure, people don't exactly talk like that, and everyone seems to have an infinite reservoir of witty or lewd repartee (see Gilmore Girls), but that's what makes it more of a comedy than something like the Bear which for reason wins Golden Globes in the comedy category when none of the leads really do any comedy at all.

Everyone brings something to the table, with Jessica Williams, Harrison Ford and Christa Miller as the standouts IMO.
I ripped through about three episodes of season 2 last night and it feels like it's picked up a fair bit in quality.

I'm not sure I described my point as well as I could have though. It's not so much the mere fact that the characters are, at times, overly quirky. Something like Gilmore Girls is like intentional with rapid fire wit and snark. Just like something like Barry is a dark comedy that is really more of a dark drama with some comedy thrown in for levity. Shrinking to me feels like a blend of an Apatow "This is 40" and a show like Modern Family only with more edge. I don't know if there's an industry term for the genre but I'd call it modern conversational comedy with some wider dramatic points to fit the therapy premise. So something like the White Lotus relies on modern conversational comedy with a murder mystery backdrop, but I feel like the White Lotus doesn't dial the quirkiness factor up as much to supplement the conversational comedic writing. It relies more on the writing of the dialogue itself. I think my problem was that for the start of Shrinking and to a lesser extent, throughout season 1 there were just moments where I as the viewer felt like the majority of the scenarios and conversations were realistic in a contemporary way, but the quirk factor would break the sense of reality at times.

My point was in shows like say, The Office, Parks and Rec, Veep, Seinfeld, or even Curb Your Enthusiasm, the characters in the show routinely act over the top and beyond what you expect from normal human interactions for the sake of filling an episode with comedic scenarios and dialogue. And that's digestible because it's expected once the show sets the toner for how its characters interact. A show like Shrinking is very intentional in trying to draw humor out of very authentic and real feeling contemporary conversations. It lands more often than it doesn't, I'll give the show credit. But sometimes either an actor's quirkiness or a line that is written for them steps out of bounds of what feels real and honest and it kind of breaks the immersion for me. Season 2 I haven't noticed that nearly as much if at all really.

Now that I'm eleven episodes deep, I can give it some flowers though. The heavier dramatic stuff and exploration of human psychology is a really compelling hook without miring the show in the bleak realities of trauma and anxiety. Those themes and subjects are presented but in a way that looks to the positives of overcoming the issues without deflecting too much of the suffering aspect back at the viewer. While the show is tropey in the sense that it feels like the core cast exists in too much of a bubble where they all essentially see each other every day, the writing and acting behind the relationships is strong. And yeah I think this is a well cast and well acted show overall (he may not be a standout compared to others but I really enjoy Jason Segel as the lead) and there were a number of moments that made me laugh out loud, the slight majority of them coming from Harrison Ford but "Got it. Eat a dick Pam!" has been etched into my brain the past few days.
 
Also yes. The Bear as a comedy, at least for awards purposes, is a joke.. no pun intended. It's a procedural drama with some humorous moments written in from time to time. It's very good. But it's a stretch to say it's in the comedy genre.
 
Fallow period for movies, so catching up with series from streaming services:

Shogun: deserves every single accolade that it has received. Memorable story, excellent script, top notch production values, interesting characters, and superb acting.

Adolescence: An absolutely mammoth power house of a mini-series, emotionally devastating and long lingering. While I am not a wholehearted fan of the "shot-in-a-single-take" approach (only the movie Victoria ever got that right), the four separate but deeply connected episodes each in its way delivered their own brand of jaw-dropping intensity.

Severance: I think it worked so well for me because it seemed like something new under the sun, an ongoing story like nothing that I could ever have imagined. A lot of loose ends going into Season Three, maybe too many for justice to be done, but the series gets full points from me for narrative originality.

1883: I've never watched a single episode of Yellowstone, but this caught my eye because of Sam Elliot, who really looks the part here. Though it has some pacing problems here and there and has a really odd way of portraying indigenous people, the series is very much character-driven with a breakout performance by young actress Isabel May. I liked its humanist messaging and the way that it is, like most classic Westerns, a morality play as well as a good yarn.
 
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Also yes. The Bear as a comedy, at least for awards purposes, is a joke.. no pun intended. It's a procedural drama with some humorous moments written in from time to time. It's very good. But it's a stretch to say it's in the comedy genre.
Isn't it a ~30 min/episode show? Those always get thrown into the comedy category.
 
Just finished Invincible. I'm a bit lukewarm on it. Like it handles mature themes in the scope a non traditional superhero narrative in a strong way and the character work is usually fairly strong. This feels like a different approach to what The Boys sets out to do, in subverting the superhero genre. This isn't a universe where the "heroes" are actually villains (for the most part) but it's similarly dark and even more violent.

But I think that's part of the rub for me. Invincible, as a character, is essentially Superman if Superman's adversity was turned up to 11. I get that the point of much of the show is testing not the invincibility of Mark's body, but of his spirit and convictions. That's not new ground for the superhero genre. The distinction is that Invincible and the other heroes have to face what the MCU would call an "Avengers level threat" every episode. Ranging from godzilla level threats on the low end to threats that would make Thanos blush.

I don't mind gore and violence and I understand that Kirkman was going for severe trauma and stakes beyond what we could fathom in the real world, but the emphasis on violent slaughter of innocent civilians in so many scenes really becomes exhausting at some point in tandem with how this show never leaves the heroes any real time to breathe before it's time to take on the latest mega threat of the week. By the time I got to the mid point of season 3 I felt just worn out and disinterested in seeing more of the same.

A superhero that faces no adversity is boring. A superhero that exists solely to endure progressively insane hardships and adversity, it turns out-at least for me-is also boring. Yeah season 3 showed cracks in Invincible's moral convictions but on the whole there's no concern that Mark is ever seriously going to turn super villain. So his story ultimately becomes long form misery porn. And after making myself stomach the last two episodes, I'm not sure I have it in me to watch future seasons.

It's still an impressively made animated superhero show and I believe it has merit, I've just reached a point where I personally don't have much interest left in continuing.
While I like the show, I do agree that the constant gore and civilian deaths has become numbing. And the characters surviving after being beaten to a literal pulp, like Angstrom Levy. Also, the hyperbole around the season 3 finale is ridiculous.
 
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While I like the show, I do agree that the constant gore and civilian deaths has become numbing. And the characters surviving after being beaten to a literal pulp, like Angstrom Levy. Also, the hyperbole around the season 3 finale is ridiculous.
Yeah my YouTube feed was filled with click bait videos of how it is a masterpiece and changes animation or the super hero genre forever. Like...no? I mean sure the animated action was incredible. But like...it was a higher budget version of the Invincible-Omni Man fight with
a "better" outcome

Jeffrey Dean Morgan's voice work was pretty top notch but Conquest amounted to little more than "what if Omni-Man was crazier?" The Atom Eve sequence of the fight was probably the best part but that still literally ends in a huge plot armor moment.
 
Yeah my YouTube feed was filled with click bait videos of how it is a masterpiece and changes animation or the super hero genre forever. Like...no? I mean sure the animated action was incredible. But like...it was a higher budget version of the Invincible-Omni Man fight with
a "better" outcome

Jeffrey Dean Morgan's voice work was pretty top notch but Conquest amounted to little more than "what if Omni-Man was crazier?" The Atom Eve sequence of the fight was probably the best part but that still literally ends in a huge plot armor moment.
Yeah, I mean it has 9.9 score at IMDB with over 68K votes and the reviews are exactly like you described. I thought the season finale was good, I'd give it a 8½ or 9, the added dialogue JDM did for Conquest was dark as hell but...I mean animation is one of the weaker points of the show at times. I felt X-men '97 and What If...? are much better when it comes to animation quality, their styles provided amazing action sequences and fights. Not forgetting Arcane of course.
 
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Well back to Shrinking. I think there's a dedicated thread but I don't like necrobumping.

All caught up now. Season 1 was pretty good. In spite of my gripes. Season 2 is outstanding.

More for anyone who's actually watched but I'll keep the spoiler tag for anyone who still wants to

Man I'm not the type to tear up or cry too often with movies or TV at this age, but this season got me twice in the span of two episodes. Jimmy letting it all go and apologizing properly to Alice was so f***ing well written and so well acted. I try not to let my vulnerability out on the internet where no one's asking for it but I understood so well that feeling of regret and self hatred. You can't start to forgive yourself until you fully face that past trauma and that was so well incorporated over the course of these two seasons.

Then Paul's Thanksgiving speech I feel like it's self explanatory. Harrison Ford is so f***ing electric in this role when he needs to be. Seriously genius casting.
 
Finished Adolescence at the start of the week and thought it was excellent. Very powerful series with some excellent acting.

Started watching Fargo season 5 yesterday.
 
Spoiler free question:

Everyone is talking about Severance, so I watched the first two episodes and I'm not feeling it. The premise is odd, and about 80% of it is long shots of walking through hallways. Half of me is interested in seeing where it goes but the other half of me is ready to move on to something more interesting.

Is this one of those shows that gets better as you get further in? Because it's kind of a slow setup. I like Adam Scott and Joh Turturro, but so far not entirely captivated.
 
Spoiler free question:

Everyone is talking about Severance, so I watched the first two episodes and I'm not feeling it. The premise is odd, and about 80% of it is long shots of walking through hallways. Half of me is interested in seeing where it goes but the other half of me is ready to move on to something more interesting.

Is this one of those shows that gets better as you get further in? Because it's kind of a slow setup. I like Adam Scott and Joh Turturro, but so far not entirely captivated.

You’ll probably get a range of opinions in the replies; I also find a lot of the camera work (and some other things) kind of annoying but overall I would say it’s worth sticking with it. Give it at least the full first season. At that point you should have at least some idea where the show might be headed. I wouldn’t say it’s a show that keeps your attention riveted every minute of every episode though. More of a slow burn kind of thing.
 
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Spoiler free question:

Everyone is talking about Severance, so I watched the first two episodes and I'm not feeling it. The premise is odd, and about 80% of it is long shots of walking through hallways. Half of me is interested in seeing where it goes but the other half of me is ready to move on to something more interesting.

Is this one of those shows that gets better as you get further in? Because it's kind of a slow setup. I like Adam Scott and Joh Turturro, but so far not entirely captivated.
You’ll probably get a range of opinions in the replies; I also find a lot of the camera work (and some other things) kind of annoying but overall I would say it’s worth sticking with it. Give it at least the full first season. At that point you should have at least some idea where the show might be headed. I wouldn’t say it’s a show that keeps your attention riveted every minute of every episode though. More of a slow burn kind of thing.
It's very much a your mileage may vary kind of thing. If you're not captivated by, say episode 4, I think you can still enjoy it, but if you're not truly hooked by trying to work through the mysteries and contemplated the themes of existence, identity, corporate control, etc., and you just kind of want the show to reach its conclusions without asking too many questions along the way, I mean...theres still entertainment value to be had. But probably limited overall enjoyment. I can't remember which episode it was but there's a pretty heavy moment involving Helly early on. If that hasn't locked you in, then it might not be for you.

Also the camera work being "annoying" is an insane take to me, but I understand it's subjective.
 
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White Lotus S3's finale is gonna need to do some heavy lifting to stick the landing to even kind of come close to S1-S3. One episode before the finale, it seems pretty obvious what plot lines are going to play out and the whole run just feels kind of...whatever to me?

Like first off, I know they don't need to play the same card with some heavily involved hotel manager every time but that guy's whole plotline this season was I'm nervous to sing, then he sings for like 15 seconds. Virtually no reason to think he's one of the shooters.

I think it's fairly easy to call how certain things go.

The guy who killed Rick's father is actually his father and the story his mom fed him was a lie. I don't mind that he didn't kill him.

This is more of a guess, but I think Ratliff is gonna make a smoothie with that poison fruit the way the finale preview is hinting at but they really shouldn't have shown that in the preview because it seems fairly obvious it's not going to work the way it's implied to. I'm betting Ratliff tries to convince his family to drink the smoothie, no one wants to, then he tries, and he only gets sick. By the end of the episode he's arrested and the family falls apart. Aside from being way too obvious a hint, there's no way that fruit is actually poisonous to be fatal and still allowed on hotel grounds. That's a scandal for the White Lotus chain waiting to happen.

I'd guess the shooting from the start of the season is between Gaitok and the Russians.

The middle age ladies arc has given great opportunities for the three actresses to show their acting chops, but ultimately their conflict really just seems to have no point.

Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I'm guessing Belinda chooses to report Greg to the authorities but he gets away on his boat. Just kind of feels like a lot of these storylines are being charged up to subvert expectations in a way that's becoming entirely too predictable.
 
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Well back to Shrinking. I think there's a dedicated thread but I don't like necrobumping.

All caught up now. Season 1 was pretty good. In spite of my gripes. Season 2 is outstanding.

More for anyone who's actually watched but I'll keep the spoiler tag for anyone who still wants to

Man I'm not the type to tear up or cry too often with movies or TV at this age, but this season got me twice in the span of two episodes. Jimmy letting it all go and apologizing properly to Alice was so f***ing well written and so well acted. I try not to let my vulnerability out on the internet where no one's asking for it but I understood so well that feeling of regret and self hatred. You can't start to forgive yourself until you fully face that past trauma and that was so well incorporated over the course of these two seasons.

Then Paul's Thanksgiving speech I feel like it's self explanatory. Harrison Ford is so f***ing electric in this role when he needs to be. Seriously genius casting.
In case you haven't already seen this...

 
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