What player has had the most Hall of Famers as teammates?

[Big Phil]

I doubt there are any post-consolidation Cup winners with no HOFers, until recent years.

But what about some of the recent Cup winners?

2004 Tampa Bay Lightning - Lecavalier, St. Louis, B Richards, Boyle, Khabibulin, Andreychuk. Any likely HOFers there?

2006 Carolina Hurricanes - Obviously it's too early to tell with guys like Staal and Ward. But they did have Recchi, Brindamour, and Weight, and Recchi is a likely HOFer (even though he was just a rental).

The jury is out on Lecavalier and Boyle IMO. They still have a lot to do before being considered. Khabibulin and Richards will likely never grace the Hall and Andreychuk shouldn't either. St. Louis is a guy that I think will get in by the end of his career based on his career curve.

Staal and Ward are too early to tell for the Canes. Recchi has a good shot and BrindAmour gets some love around here but I don't he should ever be considered to be honest.

 

[Big Phil]

You know all this talk about using Al Arbour as a HHOFer (even though he didn't get in as a player) got me thinking. You know Arbour himself was somewhat of a journeyman in the NHL. So I added up the HHOFers he played with: (I didn't use teammates he repeated playing with)

Detroit:
Howe, Lindsay, Pronovost, Sawchuk, Kelly, Hall, Bucyk, Delvecchio, Ullman

Chicago:
Hull, Mikita, Pilote

Toronto:
Duff, Mahovlich, Keon, Bower, Pulford, Stanley, Horton, Armstrong, Bathgate

St. Louis
Harvey, Moore, Plante

Not bad 24 players for Arbour


Now on to Luc Robitaille
Los Angeles:
Dionne, Murphy, Gretzky, Kurri, Robinson, Blake (probable), Coffey

Pittsburgh:
Jagr, Francis, Mullen

New York:
Messier, Leetch

Detroit:
Shanahan, Yzerman, Fedorov, Hasek, Larionov, Lidstrom, Hull, Chelios, Datsyuk (probable), Zetterberg (possible), Joseph (possible)

19 at least not to mention 4 potential HHOFers not proven to be worthy yet


This one will shock a few people on how high it is - Jacques Plante
Montreal: Lach, Olmstead, Bochard, Johnson, Richard, H. Richard, Beliveau, Harvey, Geoffrion, Moore

NYR: Bathgate, Gilbert, Ratelle, Howell, Duff

St. Louis: Hall

Toronto: Ullman, Keon, Sittler, Armstrong, Parent

Boston: Esposito, Orr, Bucyk

24 for Jacques Plante

 

[Blades of Glory]

Some others:

Larry Murphy (* equals maybe):

Marcel Dionne
Mike Gartner
Scott Stevens
Rod Langway
Mike Modano
Mario Lemieux
Jaromir Jagr
Ron Francis
Paul Coffey
Bryan Trottier
Joe Mullen
Luc Robitaille
Doug Gilmour
Mats Sundin
Steve Yzerman
Brendan Shanahan
Nicklas Lidstrom
Sergei Fedorov
Igor Larionov
Slava Fetisov
Chris Chelios
Dino Ciccarelli*
Tom Barrasso*
Mike Vernon*
Chris Osgood*
Dave Andreychuk*

In: 21
Maybe/Who I think will end up in: 5/3 (Andreychuk, Barrasso, Dino)

Brett Hull

Joe Mullen
Al MacInnis
Mike Vernon*
Joe Nieuwendyk*
Bernie Federko
Adam Oates
Curtis Joseph*
Scott Stevens
Rod Brind'Amour*
Wayne Gretzky
Chris Pronger
Dale Hawerchuk
Mike Modano
Ed Belfour
Brendan Shanahan
Dominik Hasek
Steve Yzerman
Nicklas Lidstrom
Igor Larionov
Chris Chelios
Sergei Fedorov
Luc Robitaille

18 plus a handful of maybes.

 

[Big Phil]

Here's Sawchuk:

Detroit: Lumley, Abel, Howe, Lindsay, Pronovost, Kelly, Delvecchio, Hall
Boston: Boivin, Flaman, Stanley
Detroit (2nd time): Ullman, Gadsby
Toronto: Mahovlich, Keon, Bathgate, Horton, Armstrong, Pulford, Bower, Moore (look it up)
NYR: Park, Ratelle, Gilbert, Giacomin

25 for Sawchuk


Tomas Sandstrom:
NYR: Leetch, Dionne, Lafleur, Vanbiesbrouck (possible), Richter (possible)
LA: Gretzky, Kurri, Robitaille, Robinson, Coffey, Blake (possibly)
Pittsburgh: Lemieux, Jagr, Francis, Mullen, Murphy, Trottier, Barrasso (possible), Zubov (possible), Naslund (remote chance)
Detroit: Shanahan, Yzerman, Fedorov, Lidstrom, Larionov, Vernon (possible), Osgood (longshot)
Anaheim: Selanne, Kariya (possible)

In total Sandstrom could if possible have 29 players become Hall of Famers. A remote chance and I believe Hillman still holds the record on this thread at 31, but close though

 

[Big Phil]

Steve Duchesne, this could be interesting:

LA: Robitaille, Gretzky, Robinson
Philadelphia: Recchi (possible), BrindAmour (longshot)
Quebec: Sakic, Sundin
St. Louis: Hull, MacInnis, Shanahan, Stastny, Joseph (possible), Housley (longshot)
Ottawa: Alfredsson
St. Louis (2nd time): Pronger, Fuhr, Turgeon (longshot)
LA (2nd time): Blake (probable)
Philadelphia: Lindros (possible), BrindAmour (longshot)
Detroit: Murphy, Hasek, Yzerman, Fedorov, Lidstrom, Chelios, Hull, Larionov, Osgood (possible)

Up to 29 for Duchesne perhaps

 

[Canadiens Fan]

This one will shock a few people on how high it is - Jacques Plante
Montreal: Lach, Olmstead, Bochard, Johnson, Richard, H. Richard, Beliveau, Harvey, Geoffrion, Moore

NYR: Bathgate, Gilbert, Ratelle, Howell, Duff

St. Louis: Hall

Toronto: Ullman, Keon, Sittler, Armstrong, Parent

Boston: Esposito, Orr, Bucyk

24 for Jacques Plante

You missed Jacques Laperriere ... check post #4 of this thread for the full list for Plante.

 

[MXD]

The 1938 Chicago Blackhawks were the NHL team with the fewest HOF members on its roster: one.

- Earl Seibert was the only player inducted to the HOF as player
- Carl Voss was evenutally inducted as a builder
- I'm surprised Paul Thompson was never inducted.

In the thread about cup-winning guys finishing 1st or 2nd with their team in playoff scoring (...that wasn't the original title, don't worry!), Thompson was up there. Lépine and Gottselig (another 38 Hawks) were two others. And there might have been other ones that I don't remember about.

 

[arrbez]

Just for the hell of it:

Michele Petit

In:
Neely
dionne
leetch
lafleur
sakic
stastny
goulet
sundin
anderson
fuhr
macinnis
gretzky
kurri
hawerchuk
coffey
gartner
--------------
Probable/Possible:
Lindros
blake
makarov
nieuwendyk
fleury
roenick
tkachuk
brindamour
leclair
beezer
hextall
vernon

 

[Blades of Glory]

I think the 2004 TB Lightning will have only 1 HHOF when it's all said and done. IMO Andreychuk will get in after a few seasons. His longevity will be rewarded. But other than that, who else is going to make it? St. Louis needs at least 3 more very productive seasons, and he's aging. Lecavalier? No chance. Richards? Unlikely, he doesn't have the regular season production. Boyle? Unless he wins 2 Norris Trophies, which is unlikely, he has no chance. Khabibulin? He's probably the closest after St. Louis, but he's not a HHOF goalie, IMO.

St. Louis is really the only other player with a half-decent shot at getting in. That's because voters may overlook his relatively short career because of the brilliant Hart/Art Ross/Stanley Cup season. Still, I wouldn't bet on it. That looks like a 1, at most, HHOF-member team.

It's too early to speculate for the 2005-06 Hurricanes. Recchi is going in, but after that? Staal; too young to tell. Brind'Amour? Not quite. Weight? Similar to Brind'Amour. Honestly, 20 years from now, I think it will be Staal and Recchi. Possibly Cam Ward, if his continues his ridiculous playoff performances.

 

[Big Phil]

You missed Jacques Laperriere ... check post #4 of this thread for the full list for Plante.

Technically I guess I did. Laperriere played 6 seasons with Plante in 1962-'63. I missed him thinking of the 1964 Calder Trophy being his first full season

 

[Big Phil]

I think the 2004 TB Lightning will have only 1 HHOF when it's all said and done. IMO Andreychuk will get in after a few seasons. His longevity will be rewarded. But other than that, who else is going to make it? St. Louis needs at least 3 more very productive seasons, and he's aging. Lecavalier? No chance. Richards? Unlikely, he doesn't have the regular season production. Boyle? Unless he wins 2 Norris Trophies, which is unlikely, he has no chance. Khabibulin? He's probably the closest after St. Louis, but he's not a HHOF goalie, IMO.

St. Louis is really the only other player with a half-decent shot at getting in. That's because voters may overlook his relatively short career because of the brilliant Hart/Art Ross/Stanley Cup season. Still, I wouldn't bet on it. That looks like a 1, at most, HHOF-member team.

Andreychuk shouldn't get anywhere near the HHOF to be honest. I would bet against that in a heartbeat. You look at the trouble Ciccarelli has getting in, well, no GM would ever pass on his career in favour of Andreychuk's.

Don't exclude Lecavalier and Boyle yet. Lecavalier is still young enough and granted he is missing something this year but if he ever gets back to his level of 2-3 years ago watch out. Boyle is 33, and will need to continue to produce in his 30s. Two 2nd team all-stars at defense is good so far, and a Cup. Look for that to improve playing on San Jose and likely being an Olympian this year. Who knows? St. Louis will get in when all is said and done IMO.

But anyways, did anyone do Brett Hull yet as a guy with a lot of HHOF teammates? Check it out.

Calgary: MacInnis, McDonald, Mullen, Vernon (possible), Nieuwendyk (possible)

St. Louis: Gretzky, Hawerchuk, Federko, Stevens, Shanahan, Stastny, Anderson, Pronger, Fuhr, Gilmour (probable), Oates (probable), BrindAmour (longshot), Joseph (possible), Carboneau (longshot), Tikkanen (longshot), Turgeon (longshot)

Dallas: Modano, Belfour, Zubov (longshot)

Detroit: Yzerman, Fedorov, Larionov, Hasek, Lidstrom, Robitaille, Chelios, Datsyuk (possible), Zetterberg (possible)

Check it out 33 in all!

Now, keep in mind so far there are 22 HHOFers for sure. Either they are in the HHOF or they are still playing or not eligible yet that are near consensus locks to get in (eg. Pronger). That leaves 11 possibilities. And with the likes of them being Oates, Gilmour, Vernon, Nieuwendyk, Zubov, Datsyuk, Zetterberg etc. it isn't a crazy thought that Hull could rack up as many as 30 HHOF teammates. We'll see.

 

[Derick*]

I think the 2004 TB Lightning will have only 1 HHOF when it's all said and done. IMO Andreychuk will get in after a few seasons. His longevity will be rewarded. But other than that, who else is going to make it? St. Louis needs at least 3 more very productive seasons, and he's aging. Lecavalier? No chance. Richards? Unlikely, he doesn't have the regular season production. Boyle? Unless he wins 2 Norris Trophies, which is unlikely, he has no chance. Khabibulin? He's probably the closest after St. Louis, but he's not a HHOF goalie, IMO.

St. Louis is really the only other player with a half-decent shot at getting in. That's because voters may overlook his relatively short career because of the brilliant Hart/Art Ross/Stanley Cup season. Still, I wouldn't bet on it. That looks like a 1, at most, HHOF-member team.

It's too early to speculate for the 2005-06 Hurricanes. Recchi is going in, but after that? Staal; too young to tell. Brind'Amour? Not quite. Weight? Similar to Brind'Amour. Honestly, 20 years from now, I think it will be Staal and Recchi. Possibly Cam Ward, if his continues his ridiculous playoff performances.

He will definitely be added considering his key performance in the upcoming San Jose Sharks dynasty.

 

[Big Phil]

He will definitely be added considering his key performance in the upcoming San Jose Sharks dynasty.

Sarcasm? Or not? Yes Boyle will be key to any victory of San Jose but a dynasty? They have never made a Cup final yet and a larger % would consider Pittsburgh the favourites. Oh well...........

 

[Derick*]

Sarcasm? Or not? Yes Boyle will be key to any victory of San Jose but a dynasty? They have never made a Cup final yet and a larger % would consider Pittsburgh the favourites. Oh well...........

While I'm sure I consider that more likely than most people around here... not exactly. Sarcasm usually implies you mean the opposite, so it was more like exaggeration. I wasn't being serious, though.

I think Boyle will make HHOF, more likely than not. With six years or so left he's got a good chance at least one Norris, I think. And if the Sharks win a cup with him, that's one with two different teams.

 

[seventieslord]

I think the 2004 TB Lightning will have only 1 HHOF when it's all said and done. IMO Andreychuk will get in after a few seasons. His longevity will be rewarded. But other than that, who else is going to make it? St. Louis needs at least 3 more very productive seasons, and he's aging. Lecavalier? No chance. Richards? Unlikely, he doesn't have the regular season production. Boyle? Unless he wins 2 Norris Trophies, which is unlikely, he has no chance. Khabibulin? He's probably the closest after St. Louis, but he's not a HHOF goalie, IMO.

St. Louis is really the only other player with a half-decent shot at getting in. That's because voters may overlook his relatively short career because of the brilliant Hart/Art Ross/Stanley Cup season. Still, I wouldn't bet on it. That looks like a 1, at most, HHOF-member team.

It's too early to speculate for the 2005-06 Hurricanes. Recchi is going in, but after that? Staal; too young to tell. Brind'Amour? Not quite. Weight? Similar to Brind'Amour. Honestly, 20 years from now, I think it will be Staal and Recchi. Possibly Cam Ward, if his continues his ridiculous playoff performances.

Honestly, St. Louis has a better chance than Andreychuk. He has had two seasons better than Andreychuk ever had, and a playoff better than Andreychuk ever had.

 

[vivianmb]

Oh yeah, I forgot he played for Buffalo and Philly.

and a LOADED st.louis(gretzky,hull,fuhr,macinnis&pronger possible)
slightly OT ...were gretzky and hawerchuk on that team at the same time. dale played 66 and was traded to philly. gretky played 18 and came from LA. did they over lap or not.anyone? as i don't remember.

 

[tommygunn]

Technically I guess I did. Laperriere played 6 seasons with Plante in 1962-'63. I missed him thinking of the 1964 Calder Trophy being his first full season

6 games..

 

[reckoning]

and a LOADED st.louis(gretzky,hull,fuhr,macinnis&pronger possible)
slightly OT ...were gretzky and hawerchuk on that team at the same time. dale played 66 and was traded to philly. gretky played 18 and came from LA. did they over lap or not.anyone? as i don't remember.

Hawerchuk's 66 plus Gretzky's 18 equals 84 games. Since it was an 82 game schedule, then they had to both be in the lineup at the same time for at least two games.

 

[Mayor Bee]

The real question is if we can get Mike Sillinger to within six degrees of every HOFer.

Actually, I'd be curious to see (as a side project) who the leading player is within a certain strata. Maybe there's someone else who's within two degrees or more HOFers, or three, and so on.

 

[Big Phil]

6 games..

yeah I got that one

 

[vivianmb]

Hawerchuk's 66 plus Gretzky's 18 equals 84 games. Since it was an 82 game schedule, then they had to both be in the lineup at the same time for at least two games.

not neccessarilly.what if st.louis/philly/LA had more or less games left than one of the others?

 

[Mayor Bee]

Hawerchuk was traded from St. Louis on March 15 of 1996. Gretzky was acquired on February 27 of 1996.

And just in case....here's a box score of February 29, 1996.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores96/96060/96060369.htm

Yes, Hawerchuk and Gretzky played together with the Blues (six games, in fact).

 

[vivianmb]

Hawerchuk was traded from St. Louis on March 15 of 1996. Gretzky was acquired on February 27 of 1996.

And just in case....here's a box score of February 29, 1996.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores96/96060/96060369.htm

Yes, Hawerchuk and Gretzky played together with the Blues (six games, in fact).

thank you.
real OT ...how many HHOFers played together on a feb. 29th?(LEAP YEAR)




....just kidding!

 

[Mayor Bee]

thank you.
real OT ...how many HHOFers played together on a feb. 29th?(LEAP YEAR)




....just kidding!

There are only four people who might be interested in tackling that project. Simon Gagne, Henri Richard, Lyndon Byers, and me (my wife and I got married on February 29).

And since the former three aren't on these boards...