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What Place Do the Rangers Finish in the Metro?

What Place Do the Rangers Finish in the Metro?

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EdJovanovski

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In the predictions thread on the main board as well as from YouTubers, blogs, etc it seems nobody can pin down the Rangers right now. Some think they'll be one of the top in the Metro, some think they'll be near the bottom. What place do they finish in the metro?
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Empoleon8771

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Probably 6th if I had to guess. You have the Islanders, Penguins, Canes and Capitals who should safely be above the Rangers, and Philly alternates between good and bad years so they'll probably be good this year too.

I think the Rangers will be way closer to 5th in the Metro than 7th in the Metro, though.
 
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bobholly39

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They have so much talent and could rise to the top, but they haven't quite "meshed" yet to that extent, with guys like Lafreniere and Kakko still being able to improve a lot. I think the coaching could help a lot, so maybe they end up winning division. I'll be more conservative though and vote 5th + miss playoffs.

Washington/Pittsburgh/Carolina/NYI will be top 4 imo.

I also think 4 teams from Atlantic make playoffs. Tampa/Montreal/Toronto + one of Boston or Florida.
 
Favin

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If I had to guess...

1. Carolina
2. NY Islanders

3. Pittsburgh
4. Philadelphia
5. Washington

6. NY Rangers
7. NJ Devils
8. Columbus
 
T REX

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Very small chance the aMetro gets 5 teams in...very small.
 
AfroThunder396

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CAR-WAS-NYI-PIT are the top-4 in an order yet to be determined

One of NYR-PHI-NJ will push for the 2nd wildcard spot. These are all teams who have some talent but at least one glaring hole (NYR-Center, PHI-Goalie, NJ-Scoring) but could go on a run and make it at #8.

Sorry Jackets fans but you're stuck at #8.
 

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Empoleon8771 said:
Probably 6th if I had to guess. You have the Islanders, Penguins, Canes and Capitals who should safely be above the Rangers, and Philly alternates between good and bad years so they'll probably be good this year too.

I think the Rangers will be way closer to 5th in the Metro than 7th in the Metro, though.
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I agree with the Empoleon
 
Captain97

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I think it's more likely we see 5 Atlantic teams than 5 Metro. But the most likely outcome is 4 each, so Rangers are 5th but miss the playoffs
 
Captain97

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Gurglesons said:
Why would this be very likely?

The Rangers had a better point percentage than the Canadiens last year.
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Disclosure long post explaining rationale

Long story short is I think the 4th best Atlantic team (leafs) is better than the 4th best metro team (penguins). And thus would be far more likely for us to see a 5th Atlantic (Habs) over a 5th metro as I think it would be harder to pass the leafs than the penguins.

I didn't say very likely...

I said more likely but the most likely outcome was both Rangers and Habs miss.

Also point percentages last year are statistically irrelevant as teams played were different.

I proposed it is more likely the Habs out play the 4th place team in the metro over Rangers outplayed the 4th best team in the Atlantic.

Let's say the Rangers are better than the Habs in 50% of simulations run next year (I think they will be very close in standings) . In how many of those 50% are they better than the leafs (my current puck for 4th in the atlantic)

I'd say very few.

Now in the remaining 1/3 how likely is it the Habs are now better than the Penguins (my 4th place team in the metro).

Considering I think the leafs will be a better regular season and possibly playoff team over the penguins and that the Habs and Rangers will be comparable I think it's more likely we see 5 Atlantic teams over 5 metro but the most likely outcome is 4 from each division.

Essentially the Top 7 are most predictable being in no order:

Tampa
Boston
Florida
Leafs
Isles
Caps
Canes

Leaving one wild card left for 1 of the following:

Habs
Penguins
Rangers
Flyers
 
Gurglesons

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Captain97 said:
Disclosure long post explaining rationale

Long story short is I think the 4th best Atlantic team (leafs) is better than the 4th best metro team (penguins). And thus would be far more likely for us to see a 5th Atlantic (Habs) over a 5th metro as I think it would be harder to pass the leafs than the penguins.

I didn't say very likely...

I said more likely but the most likely outcome was both Rangers and Habs miss.

Also point percentages last year are statistically irrelevant as teams played were different.

I proposed it is more likely the Habs out play the 4th place team in the metro over Rangers outplayed the 4th best team in the Atlantic.

Let's say the Rangers are better than the Habs in 50% of simulations run next year (I think they will be very close in standings) . In how many of those 50% are they better than the leafs (my current puck for 4th in the atlantic)

I'd say very few.

Now in the remaining 1/3 how likely is it the Habs are now better than the Penguins (my 4th place team in the metro).

Considering I think the leafs will be a better regular season and possibly playoff team over the penguins and that the Habs and Rangers will be comparable I think it's more likely we see 5 Atlantic teams over 5 metro but the most likely outcome is 4 from each division.

Essentially the Top 7 are most predictable being in no order:

Tampa
Boston
Florida
Leafs
Isles
Caps
Canes

Leaving one wild card left for 1 of the following:

Habs
Penguins
Rangers
Flyers
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The Penguins just finished 5th in the league in point percentage and lost Jared McCann and Brandon Tanev. Their two most least used forwards.

Tampa. Just lost their entire 3rd line.
Boston. Just lost their 2C and their # 1 goalie.
Isles. Lost Eberle and Leddy and have yet to use their cap.
Canes. Lost their #1 D and # 1 goalie. Also lost two members of their top nine.
Caps. Lost two of their top four defensemen from last year.

There is absolutely nothing that explains why PIT is a fringe team and the teams you listed above are above them.
 
Sidney the Kidney

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Gurglesons said:
The Penguins just finished 5th in the league in point percentage and lost Jared McCann and Brandon Tanev. Their two most least used forwards.

Tampa. Just lost their entire 3rd line.
Boston. Just lost their 2C and their # 1 goalie.
Isles. Lost Eberle and Leddy and have yet to use their cap.
Canes. Lost their #1 D and # 1 goalie. Also lost two members of their top nine.
Caps. Lost two of their top four defensemen from last year.

There is absolutely nothing that explains why PIT is a fringe team and the teams you listed above are above them.
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Only on HF is Jared McCann the heart and soul of a division winner who will be lost without him.
 
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bobholly39

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Gurglesons said:
Why would this be very likely?

The Rangers had a better point percentage than the Canadiens last year.
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And the Habs went on a tear in the playoffs getting to the finals. I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt that they'll be able to perform again this coming season.
 
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Gurglesons said:
Sorry. Two top six defensemen.
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I am not sure that Chara is gone. If he is, then he is being replaced by Kempny who would be a returning top 4 defenseman. They lost 1 defenseman and have been trying to work a specific kid into the lineup for a couple of years. Their penalty kill might suffer. Nothing more significant than that.

That said, the Caps and Pens wont get much pre season respect. They are just old news. Carolina lost their top mins defenseman and that seems to not even make a dent
 
Gurglesons

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txpd said:
I am not sure that Chara is gone. If he is, then he is being replaced by Kempny who would be a returning top 4 defenseman. They lost 1 defenseman and have been trying to work a specific kid into the lineup for a couple of years. Their penalty kill might suffer. Nothing more significant than that.

That said, the Caps and Pens wont get much pre season respect. They are just old news. Carolina lost their top mins defenseman and that seems to not even make a dent
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I think Caps or Pens are taking the division, so I think we are on the same page.
 
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