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the 4 minute mile for 2nd place is not as good a performance as the 4 minute mile to win it.
Please, that would be like blaming Usain Bolt for not winning the 4 x 100 relay if his teammates sucked.
the 4 minute mile for 2nd place is not as good a performance as the 4 minute mile to win it.
Goalie makes 89/90 saves. The only goal that goes in was a deflected where he was screened. His loses 1-0 with his team only generating 20 shots.
Do you really think the goalie wasn't good enough? Or maybe it had more to do with his team? Because you know, it's a team sport.
I'm going to be more impressed with the team that won than I am with usain bolt.Please, that would be like blaming Usain Bolt for not winning the 4 x 100 relay if his teammates sucked.
That makes no sense. It's the exact same performance in both scenarios.no it was not good enough to win. it would be more impressive to me if they won 2 to 1.
I'm going to be more impressed with the team that won than I am with usain bolt.
And you're going to hold it against him when they talk about the best sprinters of all time?
Give your head a shake.
I wouldn't say Bourque is better offensively. The system in Boston was totally different and the entire O ran through Bourque. Bourque has an advantage in longevity though. He hit the ground running while Lidström took some time. That's the reason I have Bourque ahead of him. To me, he's a little worse on the D, about the same on O but he did it for much longer.Personally, I have Bourque ahead of Lidstrom. Still elite defensively, significantly better offensively, less reliant on the PP for production, less support from teammates, adds physical dimension.
Well, at Karlsson's age, there's no way that anyone would have predicted that Lidstrom could have risen to the level of Lidstrom.
He won his first Norris at the age of 30.
That's what happens when you compare a guy in his mid 20's with a retired HoFer.
We don't know what kind of competition Karlsson will have over the remainder of his career, so it's a bit of an odd argument to make.
1. MUCH longer?I wouldn't say Bourque is better offensively. The system in Boston was totally different and the entire O ran through Bourque. Bourque has an advantage in longevity though. He hit the ground running while Lidström took some time. That's the reason I have Bourque ahead of him. To me, he's a little worse on the D, about the same on O but he did it for much longer.
1. MUCH longer?
2. So Norrises and Cups don't count at all? How about playoff performance? Ray can't hold a candle to Niklas.
I don't count cups. Almost never, actually. Norrises do count but competition counts too, and Bourque's was stiffer than Lidström's. And five or six more elite years is much longer. There are players whose entire prime doesn't last six years. For the rest I point to Dr. Jan Itor.1. MUCH longer?
2. So Norrises and Cups don't count at all? How about playoff performance? Ray can't hold a candle to Niklas.
There definitely is some sort of correlation between physicality and post concussion syndrome, but my guess is that it's very insignificant. It's mainly luck that determines if a player will have concussion issues or not.
The NBA is physical, but there are no concussions because of how the game is played. There are no fist fights or deliberate hits.
He was good for 80 points because he hit that mark once? LolHow many points would Karlsson have to put up to compensate for the defensive handicap he clearly has to Lidstrom? It's well over 100 points considering Lidstrom was good for 80 points. They are both amazing players but Lidstrom didn't have risk in his game.
Admittedly, I've never looked up Lidstrom's stats for any reason. Even if you make that number 60 I think it'd be required 100+ points to compensate for defensive handicap. I have zero doubt that if you trade Lidstrom for Karlsson somehow through back to the future technology Detroit's 3 cups become 0. Congrats Colorado on the dynasty. May as well compare Paul Coffey, that's more apples to apples.He was good for 80 points because he hit that mark once? Lol
Admittedly, I've never looked up Lidstrom's stats for any reason. Even if you make that number 60 I think it'd be required 100+ points to compensate for defensive handicap. I have zero doubt that if you trade Lidstrom for Karlsson somehow through back to the future technology Detroit's 3 cups become 0. Congrats Colorado on the dynasty. May as well compare Paul Coffey, that's more apples to apples.
The physical dimension is overrated, it is just one way to get results. Doesn't make those results better.Personally, I have Bourque ahead of Lidstrom. Still elite defensively, significantly better offensively, less reliant on the PP for production, less support from teammates, adds physical dimension.
The physical dimension is overrated, it is just one way to get results. Doesn't make those results better.
I agree about Bourque being better overall. He was consistently elite in a way Lidstrom was not, with better competition to boot.
1. MUCH longer?
2. So Norrises and Cups don't count at all? How about playoff performance? Ray can't hold a candle to Niklas.