Player Discussion What is the solution to this teams consistency problem?

[Sens of Anarchy]

You're just a really bitter old man dude. This thread will become more and more relevant as we get through the first 15-20 games and you'll still be in here trying to pick a fight with me lol.

Lol at your characterization... I guess that would make you a whiny petulant child. Trying to pick a fight? how so?

Relevant; if what you mean by relevant is that people will want to vent and have a better reason to vent .. sure I agree. The thing is people vent in all the GDTs , the player threads, the trade threads and .. pretty much all of them... One place to collect a few more .. why not.

Relevance would require some form of result effecting change on the team. Like pretty much all the threads It will never be relevant to anything meaningful.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

So they have TOR, BOS, CAR, EDM, VAN and CGY all coming up and we are already below .500.

It’s likely make or break it in NOV again! It’s so frustrating how we couldn’t come away with points vs. MTL, BUF and NYI - If we won those games we’d have room for error now we really don’t

 

[lancepitlick]

When I watch them there aren't enough players that drive play and lead to puck possession and control of the game.

Stutzle, sort of, Giroux, but he's old, and Sanderson. The depth guys do their job. But when looking at top end talent (Tkachuck, Norris, Batherson, Chabot) these guys are skilled and great at shooting/scoring/passing, but they don't control a hockey game.

It's like having a team with Dave Anderchyuck, Martin Havlat, Sandis Olozinsh and Mike Hoffman. Those are great players, but they can't be all of your star guys.

People like prime giroux, Sid, Alfie, Hossa, McDavid, Marchand, Karlson are much better at controlling the game/puck. The Sens don't have that on the roster. Yeah those are HOF players, but still.

I'm not a Brady hater, but I think if you can move him out for a comparable talent that plays a more complete game, that's a good option. He's basically the only guy you'd want to move that'll get a good return. Honestly, nobody except Sanderson looks "untouchable."

 

[PlayOn]

In Batherson’s post-game interview he mentioned how they get rolling when they score, and said something like maybe if they get a goal in the second instead they have a strong 30 minutes to close out the game as opposed to the last 10 minutes where they were really piling on.

Then if you look at all the games this year, the Sens pretty much win if they score first and lose if they don’t. The exceptions to this were they won against LA despite going down 2-0 and lost in Vegas even though they scored first.

It’s hard to say exactly what it is but it does feel like it’s at least partially that they get in their own heads. I get the concept of momentum, but they take it to a whole new level.

 

[jbeck5]

We have already been shit for 15 season that resulted in us trading away our core players other teams love. There is not much left to do but live with lowered expectations.

Bad management gets you here. Murray was not a good GM just average, and Dohrion made the league better. I don't think Staios will be the answer.

This has actually been my strategy for a while. I've been saying we suck over and over again so when we do keep sucking, it's exactly what I expected.

I was just trying to say what I think the solution is to get a championship team. This core doesn't have it. Don't waste time. Get a proper rebuild or simply retool since we should have enough assets to kickstart things. Then don't piss away assets on guys we don't need or aren't good value.

Restart and do it right or else you're just wasting everyone's time until you eventually restart and do it right anyways...so might as well start now.

 

[swiftwin]

Lol lots of people care that its been 7-8 years...even within the organisation. Plenty of representatives, such as Mendes, have made reference to the 7-8 years and that the fans have been through a lot.

Why on earth would you ignore the 7-8 years? You know that meme where there's a puppy in a burning building and he says "this is fine"...is that meme made up after you?

Because the puppy has only been there for 1 year, and is actively fighting the fire, and you're yelling at him "how could you let this happen for 7 years?".

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Because the puppy has only been there for 1 year, and is actively fighting the fire, and you're yelling at him "how could you let this happen for 7 years?".

you realize those 7 years were the rebuild? where we picked up the pieces to be competitive now?

so how are they not relevant now?

the whole point of the 7 years was to be bad to be great right now.

if we don't make the playoffs this year Brady and Chabot will have gone 500 games without even SNIFFING the playoffs by accident.

how the heck is that not relevant?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

So they have TOR, BOS, CAR, EDM, VAN and CGY all coming up and we are already below .500.

It’s likely make or break it in NOV again! It’s so frustrating how we couldn’t come away with points vs. MTL, BUF and NYI - If we won those games we’d have room for error now we really don’t

I'm not ready to throw in the towel, but concern is building. I still think they've played the right way more often than not, but coming out on the losing end and being under .500 after actually playing pretty well can mess with their confidence and willingness to stick to the plan. I'm getting worried this season may get away from them before it's too late and the bad habits come back in, but again, there's still hope too. Lots of teams around us looking in a similar position. Just have to keep working hard, there's no quick easy fix.

 

[DrEasy]

When I watch them there aren't enough players that drive play and lead to puck possession and control of the game.

Stutzle, sort of, Giroux, but he's old, and Sanderson. The depth guys do their job. But when looking at top end talent (Tkachuck, Norris, Batherson, Chabot) these guys are skilled and great at shooting/scoring/passing, but they don't control a hockey game.

It's like having a team with Dave Anderchyuck, Martin Havlat, Sandis Olozinsh and Mike Hoffman. Those are great players, but they can't be all of your star guys.

People like prime giroux, Sid, Alfie, Hossa, McDavid, Marchand, Karlson are much better at controlling the game/puck. The Sens don't have that on the roster. Yeah those are HOF players, but still.

I'm not a Brady hater, but I think if you can move him out for a comparable talent that plays a more complete game, that's a good option. He's basically the only guy you'd want to move that'll get a good return. Honestly, nobody except Sanderson looks "untouchable."

Chabot has been good lately in moving the puck and controlling it in the O-Zone.

But I agree with you, we need more puck-movers and playmakers. Including in our bottom D pairing. We used to have one there, but he seemed to trigger everyone, so I won't belabor the point lol.