Speculation: What is the most the Canucks could fetch from NYR if they traded JT Miller back to NYR

[Peter Griffin]

There’s a lot of other teams I’d rather trade Miller too if it comes to that.

 

[pld459666]

Laff + Schneider

Pass

Not a fit between the two teams.

We do not want more players on the wrong side of 30

 

[BrockLobster]

Terrible for Vancouver.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

And I’m pretty sure the Rangers don’t entertain trading Laf.

It’s a bad premise when both teams are trying to win.

You have to think of the Cap and also take in the talent. J.T is the best player in the deal and this trade fits the teams timelines as well.

 

[Ruggs225]

The problem is rangers need a top 4 dman even more than a center (and we do need a center)

So getting rid of schneider or even miller would actually make the Rangers a whole lot worse, even though JT is really good.

Plus the whole cap thing. Zib or trouba would need to be involved to make cap numbers work. Rangers cant take salary.

 

[SnS]

You have to think of the Cap and also take in the talent. J.T is the best player in the deal and this trade fits the teams timelines as well.

But with the deal they handed out to Laf and the way he’s been projecting. It makes no sense to move him for someone older. If Shesty doesn’t reup with the Rangers, their window very well could close at the end of this season.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Holy f***ing delusional

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

3rd or 4th then? For Kakko who still is a 23yo #2 pick who might actually be a good player if he got shipped out.

So we're trading a 99-100 point player for a kid who might be good but hasn't amounted to anything in six years? And we're taking on a player you don't want? Riveting...

While the OP's demands are too lofty, one of Schneider or Miller has to be included. Otherwise, what's the point? We aren't just trying to make New York better.

 

[gritdash60]

So we're trading a 99-100 point player for a kid who might be good but hasn't amounted to anything in six years? And we're taking on a player you don't want? Riveting...

While the OP's demands are too lofty, one of Schneider or Miller has to be included. Otherwise, what's the point? We aren't just trying to make New York better.

No, you are trading Miller for Zibanejad, and getting Kakko too? In my hypothetical trade.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I know Zibanejad is having a down season for his standards, but I'm don't feel like Zibanejad, Schneider and a 1st for Miller would be all that far off.

I think the Rangers may need to throw in another prospect but I don't think it would be anything to extreme. Miller is an upgrade on Zibanejad but Schneider and a 1st added on top seems like a good bridge between the two.

 

[Nucker42]

Rangers would be insane to trade Perrault and Schneider for Miller.

Why would anyone trade a 100 point player on a great contract for a prospect and bottom pairing d? Insanity!

 

[SnS]

Why would anyone trade a 100 point player on a great contract for a prospect and bottom pairing d? Insanity!

I mean, I’m not a Rangers fan by any means. But, I don’t think the trade makes sense. I think it’s too much for a piece that doesn’t put them over the top.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I’d rather not, this team even swapping Zibanejad for Miller hypothetically is still not good enough to win anything. Not to mention it would cost more than that and Vancouver probably wouldn’t want Mika so forget it.

 

[Nucker42]

What did Lindolm fetch last year? Just as a template.

1st, B+ prospect, C prospect, Kuzmenko on a down year. Conditional 4th.

I don’t think anyone here is crazy enough to say Lindholm is at Millers level. Definitely a tier below, Miller is also on a very team friendly contract.

IMO, the template for a Miller trade would be:

1 x player with term on a big contract having a down year.

1 x 1st or similar prospect

1 x A prospect

1 x B prospect or other asset

For example:

Krieder
1st
Kakko

 

[BlueSeal]

What are Vancouver's needs?

 

[Canucks LB]

He’s a top seven scorer in the NHL in the last three years combined.

And he was an absolute monster in the playoffs, as recent as last season.

Not to mention, he’s basically a PPG player and +1 this season with an injury and all this internal situation going on.

He’s going to cost a fortune

 

[Canucks LB]

Holy f***ing delusional

Oh, I can’t wait to see what you think JT Miller is worth, the same person who thinks Quinn Hughes is still bad defensively.

This is gonna be fantastic

 

[lakeshirts37]

The problem is rangers need a top 4 dman even more than a center (and we do need a center)

So getting rid of schneider or even miller would actually make the Rangers a whole lot worse, even though JT is really good.

Plus the whole cap thing. Zib or trouba would need to be involved to make cap numbers work. Rangers cant take salary.

I wouldnt hesitate a millisecond to include KAM in a JT trade. The issue is VAN would want more and NYR do not have other assets theyd be willing to part with that VAN would want

Holy f***ing delusional

JT would require a haul.

 

[lakeshirts37]

Calm down, im well aware that the Canucks probably arent looking to move JT Miller.

I'm more so curious what it would take for the Canucks to accept a Rangers offer.

Its been reported that Drury absoloutely loves JT Miller and has made numerous calls to Van regarding a trade.

There's also lots of talks that the Rangers are about to blow things up...

JT Miller is probably on one of the best contracts right now, and it will just get even better once the cap sky rockets up. He is signed for 8m a year for another 5yrs after this season. Scored 100+ last season

Canucks arent rebuilding as they are looking to take advantage of the years left that Q Hughes is making 7mil and Demko at 5mil.



IMO it would have to be something like:

1st, Perrault, Chytil, B Schneider

for JT Miller , Noah Juulsen

a 3rd team would probably have to get involved to make the cap fit as well.

I love the player JT has developed into, but pump the brakes saying this is one of the best contracts in the league. He’s shortly turning 32.

For the record, I think JT would require a substantial return but this is an absurd trade package.

 

[Raistlin]

its going to be Laf, Schneider and a 2nd. for Miller and a 4th or something close. Chytll has serious concussion issues, its a pass.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Zibanejad, Cuylle and Schneider/Miller

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

I don’t know about NY specifically but if the rumours of a rift are true they should get the best defenseman they can

 

[Smitty426]

The problem is rangers need a top 4 dman even more than a center (and we do need a center)

So getting rid of schneider or even miller would actually make the Rangers a whole lot worse, even though JT is really good.

Plus the whole cap thing. Zib or trouba would need to be involved to make cap numbers work. Rangers cant take salary.

Marcus Pettersson for Miller
Both FAs. NY gets a more reliable LHD, Pitt gets a young guy to inject speed and spark fir the last kick at the can for Sid. Then he takes the mantle and becomes their young vet. Who says no and why?

 

[nbwingsfan]

Rangers would be insane to trade Perrault and Schneider for Miller.

Why? miller is one of the better forwards in the NHL

 

[Petes2424]

With every deal being a cap deal now, at best they could probably do something like Trochek, Jones (or Robertson) and a pick. Likely a 1st. If any further dollars have to move, it’ll be a cap casualty type player.

JT is a difference maker still. He can change the tempo of a game. Even in the playoffs.

Value wise, it would have to be something like that, unless it becomes a deal for Zibanejad in a change of scenery type thing. Both with the big contracts, both have their own issues, but It’s hard to say who lasts longer. JT loses his legs, he’s in more trouble than Zibanejad, who’s game can get away with slowing down more. Whoever adds, it wouldn’t be much at all though.

If it’s a “get rid of JT” type trade and they take Trouba let’s say, to get through the money aspect of things, the Rangers will likely have to add two Grade A pieces. Even though Trouba might really solidify the Canucks blue line, the Rangers would still be adding nice, young value.

Unfortunately these days, once we start trading $7+ million deals, pure value trades rarely happen anymore. Which completely screws any fans thinking they’ll try the trade on their video game first, trying to determine the value.