What is the highest trade package you're willing to give up to swap Misa for Schaefer? If you really want Schaefer in teal, and I'm sure most Sharks fans do, what is the absolute highest trade centerpiece(s) you're willing to give to the Islanders in order to swap the 2OA for the 1OA? Let's say you're willing to part with Musty and the Islanders want to tack on a lower pick like a 4th or 5th rounder, then that's fine as long as Musty is the centerpiece of your trade package in your choice.
What is the highest trade package you're willing to give up to swap Misa for Schaefer?
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Dal 1st and not a penny more.
Isles want Reese Laubach as well? I tell them to kick rocks. Hell, they ask for a Reese's peanut butter cup, they still kicking rocks.
Isles want Reese Laubach as well? I tell them to kick rocks. Hell, they ask for a Reese's peanut butter cup, they still kicking rocks.
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Barclay Goodrow. Then we draft Schaefer/Misa 1 & 2.
I'm beyond sick of talking about trading for the #1 pick.
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I simply wouldn't trade up
Pick whoever is left at #2 and move on
Pick whoever is left at #2 and move on
NYI didn't earn the pick, they literally won it in a lottery. They aren't going to receive any legitimate trade offers from any other team, so they should just take what we give them and consider it a bonus.
The most I would offer them is the Dallas pick and nothing else.
The most I would offer them is the Dallas pick and nothing else.
I forgot that option. Added that option to the poll. I'm actually would be okay with not trading up.
tiburon12
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We 100% wait it out. No one is going to leapfrog us with an offer for #1. CHI, NSH, Utah for sure wont. MAYBE the Flyers do, but that risks the Islanders not getting a top forward at 6, and really what can the Flyers offer. And in the off chance someone does leapfrog us with a better offer, then we are better off for waiting than overpaying.
The key consideration is that if the Isles TRULY want Schaefer they are keeping the pick without question.
Since it's no secret that the Sharks want a D, Grier needs to be careful how he deals with the Islanders. But so too do the Islanders need to be careful with Grier. As soon as the Isles even entertain a trade, it indicates to the Sharks to wait, because Schaefer is the only Top D on the board and the Isles wouldn't risk that unless they were really OK with a forward. AND, if they do want a forward, they probably want their guy, which would mean trading with the Sharks is the only way to ensure they get their guy.
The key consideration is that if the Isles TRULY want Schaefer they are keeping the pick without question.
Since it's no secret that the Sharks want a D, Grier needs to be careful how he deals with the Islanders. But so too do the Islanders need to be careful with Grier. As soon as the Isles even entertain a trade, it indicates to the Sharks to wait, because Schaefer is the only Top D on the board and the Isles wouldn't risk that unless they were really OK with a forward. AND, if they do want a forward, they probably want their guy, which would mean trading with the Sharks is the only way to ensure they get their guy.
Sharks' entire 2025 draft picks include:
2 1st
2 2nd
1 3rd
2 4th
1 5th
1 7th
You're right that there's not much value left after 2, 30, and 33 were offered. But giving up every single picks mean Grier can't target hidden talents that he spotted and potentially steal with a lower pick, any pick.
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I think when we are talking about a #1 and #2 swap, the Islanders are clearly comfortable with the player they would get at #2 spot. So I don't think Sharks should be all in if the price is too high.
I feel like MG will do everything in his power to help Sharks draft Schaefer, but not at a huge cost.
I feel like MG will do everything in his power to help Sharks draft Schaefer, but not at a huge cost.
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1. Schaefer or
2. Misa
30. Gastrin
33. Vansaghi (Nestrasil/Bru are available)
53. Zharkovsky (Prokorov available)
89. Mace'o Phillips
Nice stocking of the pipeline- elite forward, potential 3C, two big middle six winger shots, and a giant dman dart throw. Seems very Grier-like.
I really, really like Misa, and I think he's an even better fit for us then most teams, but I'd honestly still consider it. I learn toward I'd do it, then plan to grab a top forward next year, and a RHD with Edmonton's first (perhaps via another trade up).
Our under-23 pool is massive, we can afford to lose 3 30-53 picks in a weaker draft. Probably will grab a few 2nds next trade deadline as well.
1. Schaefer or
2. Misa
30. Gastrin
33. Vansaghi (Nestrasil/Bru are available)
53. Zharkovsky (Prokorov available)
89. Mace'o Phillips
Nice stocking of the pipeline- elite forward, potential 3C, two big middle six winger shots, and a giant dman dart throw. Seems very Grier-like.
I really, really like Misa, and I think he's an even better fit for us then most teams, but I'd honestly still consider it. I learn toward I'd do it, then plan to grab a top forward next year, and a RHD with Edmonton's first (perhaps via another trade up).
Our under-23 pool is massive, we can afford to lose 3 30-53 picks in a weaker draft. Probably will grab a few 2nds next trade deadline as well.
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What I'm willing to do (probably as high as Eklund), what I hope they do (Musty or less) and what is likely (no trade) and what I want to talk about (none of it) are all different things.
At least it's combine week! Rumor mill should be grinding.
If Schaefer drops to #2 you take him there. If Schaefer goes #1, I feel like some C hungry team makes GMMG an overpay package built around a young blue chip Dman plus picks.
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GMMG: "My offer is this: nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming license, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally."
weastern bias
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Mike! You don't come to the draft and talk to a man like Lou Lamoriello like that!
weastern bias
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*whispers*the joke doesn't work with a rookie GM so I went with the made man*stops whispering*
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So I was thinking about this and if any team trades up, it would be Chicago. They could do something like Korchinski+3oa+TOR 1st for 1oa which I think would work for both teams.
(Not that should change what SJ does.)
The only situations where I would give the entire draft would be if the sharks can use 30,33,53 to acquire K Miller, Dobson, Wallander, Nemec, Morrow. All of those plus Misa would probably be better.
Also if they could move up and draft Mrtka, Smith, Fiddler, Hensler. All of those plus Misa would probably be better than Schaefer.
That is about it. Any other situation I would rather walk away with Schaefer and nothing else.
Also if they could move up and draft Mrtka, Smith, Fiddler, Hensler. All of those plus Misa would probably be better than Schaefer.
That is about it. Any other situation I would rather walk away with Schaefer and nothing else.
Well, it kind of does change things for the Sharks, unless Grier actually prefers Misa. Chicago trading up would be for Misa, so that would add to the Sharks being incentivized to do nothing, and hope that Chicago makes the trade, so the Sharks get Schaefer without having to pay at all.
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If chicago decides that's their route, fine with me. They have no centers then
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I know this is a message board n' all, but some of you can't help yourselves.
This has been done to death. Move on.
This has been done to death. Move on.
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I voted the 30+33 option, but more realistically I'd do 30 plus Ottawa 2nd.
Realistically though, I don't really see there being a deal there to be made. San Jose should not be giving up an Eklund, Dickinson, or Mukhamadulin to move up 1 spot (Smith isn't even a talking point it's so outrageous).
NYI are likely not looking to just accumulate picks in this draft to move down as they are probably trying to retool on the fly and get back to the playoffs ASAP. So all around, don't see where the assets that we have to offer up match with what they'd be looking for in a deal. Rather than overpay, just take Misa at #2 and keep chugging along.
Realistically, we're going to be picking in the top 5 in 2026 and top 15 in 2027 and 2028. There will be other draft opportunities in the near future to go out and select top pairing but non-elite #1 Norris winning defensemen to where it doesn't make sense to pay a premium to move up.
Realistically though, I don't really see there being a deal there to be made. San Jose should not be giving up an Eklund, Dickinson, or Mukhamadulin to move up 1 spot (Smith isn't even a talking point it's so outrageous).
NYI are likely not looking to just accumulate picks in this draft to move down as they are probably trying to retool on the fly and get back to the playoffs ASAP. So all around, don't see where the assets that we have to offer up match with what they'd be looking for in a deal. Rather than overpay, just take Misa at #2 and keep chugging along.
Realistically, we're going to be picking in the top 5 in 2026 and top 15 in 2027 and 2028. There will be other draft opportunities in the near future to go out and select top pairing but non-elite #1 Norris winning defensemen to where it doesn't make sense to pay a premium to move up.
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We should start a Goodrow thread.
