What is Goalie Interference? Isles VS Blue Jackets

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Yea, you clearly have no idea how fast that is in real time....but let's try this,

Stand in front of a wall, have someone about 15 feet out with a tennis ball, if you let that ball go past you, you owe them $50 (incentive) then....have someone walk past you, slightly bump you, as the guy is throwing the ball, let me know how that ends up, k?
It would end up a lot better if I was a professional athlete who hadn't just wasted time pushing the person who had bumped into me, k?
 
Probably not, but it also wasn't 0.3 seconds from the contact, it was 0.8. He literally starts to push him as the Isles player shoots the puck, without the push he had plenty of time to get set and square up to the shot.
Is .8 seconds enough to get reset? Keep in mind that's 20% shorter than a second if my math is mathing.
 
No clue how any unbiased person could think that should be waived off. Pathetic.

Is the closest ref Michael Markovic a known hack? Already know the guy at the opposite end is (social media beloved dumbass Wes McCauley).
 
Tell me you've never played the game without saying you actually never played the game.
Okay, you've never played the game. Resorting to the most trite insult on the board when you realize you're wrong really isn't helping.

Had Elvis not pushed Palmieri (which he likely decided to do after the bump when Palmieri was still in the crease, but which actually took place when Palmieri was OUT of the crease), he would have had time to get set as evidenced by the fact that he nearly WAS set even after having pushed him. Do you disagree with any specific point that I've just made?
 
Probably not, but it also wasn't 0.3 seconds from the contact, it was 0.8. He literally starts to push him as the Isles player shoots the puck, without the push he had plenty of time to get set and square up to the shot.

It was 0.8 seconds from the end of contact until the puck goes past Elvis. Not until it is shot.

The puck spent about half a second flying through the air, so it was shot about 0.3 seconds after the end of contact.

You have agreed that 0.3 seconds is not enough time to reset after contact.

Therefore, it is beyond argument that his positioning at the time of the shot was influenced by illegal contact. That is the definition of goaltender interference.
 
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Today I learned (along with more details on the actual rule and why that first one was allowed and this not):

1) only Columbus fans know how to write Merzlikins correctly
2) only Islanders fans know how to write Palmieri correctly

Somehow I found that very fitting for the stances displayed in this thread, which focuses on details and nuances of a rule. Go figure.
 
It was 0.8 seconds from the end of contact until the puck goes past Elvis. Not until it is shot.

The puck spent about half a second flying through the air, so it was shot about 0.3 seconds after the end of contact.

You have agreed that 0.3 seconds is not enough time to reset after contact.

Therefore, it is beyond argument that his positioning at the time of the shot was influenced by illegal contact. That is the definition of goaltender interference.
Please see my latest post and let me know what specific aspect you are disagreeing with. Was Elvis not almost set for the shot despite having had to reset after an unnecessary push that he gave to Palmieri? Because it looked a lot like he was very nearly set and squared up to the shot even after having had the contact and then pushing him to me.
 
Please see my latest post and let me know what specific aspect you are disagreeing with. Was Elvis not almost set for the shot despite having had to reset after an unnecessary push that he gave to Palmieri? Because it looked a lot like he was very nearly set and squared up to the shot even after having had the contact and then pushing him to me.

“Almost set” is the same thing as “not set” when it comes to goaltender interference. Either he is freely able to get himself set, or he is not.

The goalie has an absolute right to move freely within the crease and get set for a shot. When someone jostles him up until 0.3 seconds before the shot is released, that’s a pretty definitive GI violation.

Even you agreed with this until you figured out where I was going with it.
 
“Almost set” is the same thing as “not set” when it comes to goaltender interference. Either he is freely able to get himself set, or he is not.

The goalie has an absolute right to move freely within the crease and get set for a shot. When someone jostles him up until 0.3 seconds before the shot is released, that’s a pretty definitive GI violation.

Even you agreed with this until you figured out where I was going with it.
Almost set is not the same thing as not set when it also involves him unnecessarily initiating further contact with Palmieri. Without that contact he would absolutely have had time to get set for the shot, but he chose to push Palmieri instead.

Watch the last video in the first post of this thread. He is already essentially set even AFTER the push he gives Palmieri. Without that push he 100% had time to get set, but he chose to try to clear a guy who was already out of his crease from his crease instead. Again, that decision WAS probably made before he was out of the crease, but I don't see how that should factor in when the question is whether he had the ability and time to get set after contact which he certainly did.

The way you have presented your argument is predicated on him being out of position and needing to fully get set, but that wasn't the case since he was already squared up to the shooter and on position to make a save.
 
Okay, you've never played the game. Resorting to the most trite insult on the board when you realize you're wrong really isn't helping.

Had Elvis not pushed Palmieri (which he likely decided to do after the bump when Palmieri was still in the crease, but which actually took place when Palmieri was OUT of the crease), he would have had time to get set as evidenced by the fact that he nearly WAS set even after having pushed him. Do you disagree with any specific point that I've just made?

Yes, he was bumped, he was trying to locate the puck, fight through the screen, as it happened, there was no time to reset in your fantasy land.....play the game for once, yea it might be a trite and basic insult, but it has bearing when you have people who have never laced up the skates trying to argue, that a goaltender should be able to reset, find and track the puck, and deal with the contact, in less than a second....
 
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I've played the game. I was actually a goalie. 0.8 seconds might sound really fast for amateurs, but for pro athletes it's not really that crazy.

So have I, and yea, .8 seconds to absorb contact, fight through it, reset your legs/balance, and find the puck, in less than a second.....yea, it is that crazy.
 
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There was a Sports Science video from some years back that determined an NHL's goalies reaction time is right around 0.1 seconds.

So, 8x's that is certainly enough time to reset.



Appreciate that, now that's on a clear shot knowing it's coming, with no contact, no fighting through contact, no loss of balance, and not having to track the puck again.....

Tell me again how .8 of a second is enough time.
 
Yes, he was bumped, he was trying to locate the puck, fight through the screen, as it happened, there was no time to reset in your fantasy land.....play the game for once, yea it might be a trite and basic insult, but it has bearing when you have people who have never laced up the skates trying to argue, that a goaltender should be able to reset, find and track the puck, and deal with the contact, in less than a second....
You're going back to that well despite it being trite and having no impact on the lacking substance of your argument? He was trying to fight through a screen and locate the puck, but that usually occurs when you aren't pushing a guy who is already out of the crease.

He didn't have to deal with the contact. It was extremely mild contact that left him still squared up to the shooter, and he found his balance extremely quickly since he's a professional athlete and not a drunk toddler which you seem to have mistaken him for.
 
You're going back to that well despite it being trite and having no impact on the lacking substance of your argument? He was trying to fight through a screen and locate the puck, but that usually occurs when you aren't pushing a guy who is already out of the crease.

He didn't have to deal with the contact. It was extremely mild contact that left him still squared up to the shooter, and he found his balance extremely quickly since he's a professional athlete and not a drunk toddler which you seem to have mistaken him for.

It knocked him off balance did it not? I mean, you must think so, you said he "found his balance" so to find it, he must have been knocked off balance....

So he gets knocked off balance, and you think .8 seconds is enough time to regain his balance, fight through the contact, and track the puck.....in under a second....

Again, I suggest you go try that......and keep in mind, that was .8 seconds from the contact, to the puck going in, not even the shot, so the puck being shot was closer to about half that to be generous, .4 seconds....

Wait, you must be a Barry Allen fan....
 
It knocked him off balance did it not? I mean, you must think so, you said he "found his balance" so to find it, he must have been knocked off balance....

So he gets knocked off balance, and you think .8 seconds is enough time to regain his balance, fight through the contact, and track the puck.....in under a second....

Again, I suggest you go try that......and keep in mind, that was .8 seconds from the contact, to the puck going in, not even the shot, so the puck being shot was closer to about half that to be generous, .4 seconds....

Wait, you must be a Barry Allen fan....
Yes, considering he immediately found his balance before the shot was released, where he was standing in an athletic position, upright, and facing the shooter. He takes himself out of that position to push Palmieri, then nearly fully returns to that position. Therefore, WITHOUT the Palmieri push, he would have had time to stay in that athletic position, peek to see where the puck was coming from, and react to it.
 

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