tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Why would that be relevant since that wasn't the time frame he had?
I’m just asking, is 0.3 seconds enough time to reset, in your opinion?
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In the meantime, feel free to join our Discord ServerWhy would that be relevant since that wasn't the time frame he had?
It would end up a lot better if I was a professional athlete who hadn't just wasted time pushing the person who had bumped into me, k?Yea, you clearly have no idea how fast that is in real time....but let's try this,
Stand in front of a wall, have someone about 15 feet out with a tennis ball, if you let that ball go past you, you owe them $50 (incentive) then....have someone walk past you, slightly bump you, as the guy is throwing the ball, let me know how that ends up, k?
Probably not, but it also wasn't 0.3 seconds from the contact, it was 0.8. He literally starts to push him as the Isles player shoots the puck, without the push he had plenty of time to get set and square up to the shot.I’m just asking, is 0.3 seconds enough time to reset, in your opinion?
It would end up a lot better if I was a professional athlete who hadn't just wasted time pushing the person who had bumped into me, k?
Is .8 seconds enough to get reset? Keep in mind that's 20% shorter than a second if my math is mathing.Probably not, but it also wasn't 0.3 seconds from the contact, it was 0.8. He literally starts to push him as the Isles player shoots the puck, without the push he had plenty of time to get set and square up to the shot.
That's plenty of time for a professional goalie who is already essentially squared up to where the shot is coming from to get set for a shot lmao, what are you on about?Sure, but it's clear you've never played any sport, at any level, if you think .8 of a second is "enough time to reset"
Yes, 0.8 seconds is enough to get reset if you are already on balance and facing the direction a shot is coming from, both of which Elvis was.Is .8 seconds enough to get reset? Keep in mind that's 20% shorter than a second if my math is mathing.
That's plenty of time for a professional goalie who is already essentially squared up to where the shot is coming from to get set for a shot lmao, what are you on about?
Okay, you've never played the game. Resorting to the most trite insult on the board when you realize you're wrong really isn't helping.Tell me you've never played the game without saying you actually never played the game.
Probably not, but it also wasn't 0.3 seconds from the contact, it was 0.8. He literally starts to push him as the Isles player shoots the puck, without the push he had plenty of time to get set and square up to the shot.
Please see my latest post and let me know what specific aspect you are disagreeing with. Was Elvis not almost set for the shot despite having had to reset after an unnecessary push that he gave to Palmieri? Because it looked a lot like he was very nearly set and squared up to the shot even after having had the contact and then pushing him to me.It was 0.8 seconds from the end of contact until the puck goes past Elvis. Not until it is shot.
The puck spent about half a second flying through the air, so it was shot about 0.3 seconds after the end of contact.
You have agreed that 0.3 seconds is not enough time to reset after contact.
Therefore, it is beyond argument that his positioning at the time of the shot was influenced by illegal contact. That is the definition of goaltender interference.
Please see my latest post and let me know what specific aspect you are disagreeing with. Was Elvis not almost set for the shot despite having had to reset after an unnecessary push that he gave to Palmieri? Because it looked a lot like he was very nearly set and squared up to the shot even after having had the contact and then pushing him to me.
I've played the game. I was actually a goalie. 0.8 seconds might sound really fast for amateurs, but for pro athletes it's not really that crazy.Tell me you've never played the game without saying you actually never played the game.
Almost set is not the same thing as not set when it also involves him unnecessarily initiating further contact with Palmieri. Without that contact he would absolutely have had time to get set for the shot, but he chose to push Palmieri instead.“Almost set” is the same thing as “not set” when it comes to goaltender interference. Either he is freely able to get himself set, or he is not.
The goalie has an absolute right to move freely within the crease and get set for a shot. When someone jostles him up until 0.3 seconds before the shot is released, that’s a pretty definitive GI violation.
Even you agreed with this until you figured out where I was going with it.
Okay, you've never played the game. Resorting to the most trite insult on the board when you realize you're wrong really isn't helping.
Had Elvis not pushed Palmieri (which he likely decided to do after the bump when Palmieri was still in the crease, but which actually took place when Palmieri was OUT of the crease), he would have had time to get set as evidenced by the fact that he nearly WAS set even after having pushed him. Do you disagree with any specific point that I've just made?
There was a Sports Science video from some years back that determined an NHL's goalies reaction time is right around 0.1 seconds.Sure, but it's clear you've never played any sport, at any level, if you think .8 of a second is "enough time to reset"
I've played the game. I was actually a goalie. 0.8 seconds might sound really fast for amateurs, but for pro athletes it's not really that crazy.
There was a Sports Science video from some years back that determined an NHL's goalies reaction time is right around 0.1 seconds.
So, 8x's that is certainly enough time to reset.
You're going back to that well despite it being trite and having no impact on the lacking substance of your argument? He was trying to fight through a screen and locate the puck, but that usually occurs when you aren't pushing a guy who is already out of the crease.Yes, he was bumped, he was trying to locate the puck, fight through the screen, as it happened, there was no time to reset in your fantasy land.....play the game for once, yea it might be a trite and basic insult, but it has bearing when you have people who have never laced up the skates trying to argue, that a goaltender should be able to reset, find and track the puck, and deal with the contact, in less than a second....
You're going back to that well despite it being trite and having no impact on the lacking substance of your argument? He was trying to fight through a screen and locate the puck, but that usually occurs when you aren't pushing a guy who is already out of the crease.
He didn't have to deal with the contact. It was extremely mild contact that left him still squared up to the shooter, and he found his balance extremely quickly since he's a professional athlete and not a drunk toddler which you seem to have mistaken him for.
Yes, considering he immediately found his balance before the shot was released, where he was standing in an athletic position, upright, and facing the shooter. He takes himself out of that position to push Palmieri, then nearly fully returns to that position. Therefore, WITHOUT the Palmieri push, he would have had time to stay in that athletic position, peek to see where the puck was coming from, and react to it.It knocked him off balance did it not? I mean, you must think so, you said he "found his balance" so to find it, he must have been knocked off balance....
So he gets knocked off balance, and you think .8 seconds is enough time to regain his balance, fight through the contact, and track the puck.....in under a second....
Again, I suggest you go try that......and keep in mind, that was .8 seconds from the contact, to the puck going in, not even the shot, so the puck being shot was closer to about half that to be generous, .4 seconds....
Wait, you must be a Barry Allen fan....