Because he clips his skate outside the crease. It's nothing, all caused by by the goalie. If that's goalie interference, might as well treat them as defensemen near the crease. Good idea?
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The overhead showed Palmieri’s body extended into the crease even if his skates were outside the crease. The goalie couldn’t establish his position in the crease without contact because of that. Just because a homer announcer said he had time to reset doesn’t mean GTI didn’t influence the goal.
That's right. And they were pissed about it. They knew they screwed up making the call on the ice.
A few years ago that was goalie interference, no goal. And then for the last few years they would have called it a good goal on the grounds that "the goalie had a chance to re-set his feet". But supposedly they have had recent meetings to discuss adjusting the rule, so it seems that there was an adjustment made to the rule. Because this is clearly not following the way they made the call in the last few years.
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I'd let AI start making calls than to trust the inconsistencies that is NHL reffing.
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I’m accustomed to more exclamation points, caps lock, and laughing emojis in your trolling. Are the Rangers making you sad?
Do better.
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Toronto didn’t confirm anything. They said “not enough evidence to overturn”
Whatever the f*** that means, considering it’s a black and white question
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100% this. A blown call from time to time doesn't make the league look foolish. The almost willful inconsistency in what is and isn't a call does.
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Because Merzlikens clips his skate while outside the crease making him go off-balance to begin with
If Merzlikens skate doesn’t clip Palmieri, he’s not in that position in the first place
If the crease is that kind of haven that you can clip as skate outside it and when the guy loses balance and torso goes in crease is GTI, make it fair game so that every goalie part outside the crease is subject to a box out. The game has never been called like that for good reason.
Anyway this isn't a real argument. Refs knew they made a boo-boo. You could see it in the call after review. But they also don't want to be shown up by Toronto either. Oh well.
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I'm horrified too. Never seen such a thing in all my years on this site.
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There is no such thing as goaltender interreference in the modern NHL
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I can see both sides of it:
On one hand your goalie should have access to the ice immediately outside of the crease, not to the hashmarks, but slightly outside I'd say it is reasonable
On the other hand you risk goalies doing this on purpose to disallow goals
So I donno, it's tough because a player in the crease isn't an automatic disallowed goal, so it's a bit of a grey area as far as what everyone is allowed to do. If you get too explicit, both sides will try and take advantage of it.
On one hand your goalie should have access to the ice immediately outside of the crease, not to the hashmarks, but slightly outside I'd say it is reasonable
On the other hand you risk goalies doing this on purpose to disallow goals
So I donno, it's tough because a player in the crease isn't an automatic disallowed goal, so it's a bit of a grey area as far as what everyone is allowed to do. If you get too explicit, both sides will try and take advantage of it.
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1. Merzlikens makes initial contact with Palmieri’s skate outside the crease making him slightly offbalance making him “lean” into the crease
2. Merzlikens then pushes Palmieri out of the way from a position HE CAUSED HIM TO BE IN
3. The puck was a redirection from out high with Merzlikens sliding the opposite way. The contact had ZERO bearing on his ability to play that puck
The referee and Toronto f***ed up
2. Merzlikens then pushes Palmieri out of the way from a position HE CAUSED HIM TO BE IN
3. The puck was a redirection from out high with Merzlikens sliding the opposite way. The contact had ZERO bearing on his ability to play that puck
The referee and Toronto f***ed up
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Goalies have an area. It’s called the blue paint
Merzlikens made first contact with Palmieri’s skate outside of that blue paint
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It's stuff like this eats at the integrity of the game. I say that as a Leaf fan who has no dog in the race.
Over analysis. Refs screwed up. Toronto let bad judgment stand. It's that simple. If that happens in an actually important game (as opposed to between pretenders) it's a problem.
Not saying good call or bad call but Elvis isn't in the white ice to make contact
You can see in the overhead view in the last video in post #1 at 11.1 seconds that Palmieri’s skate was in the crease where contact was made, and the ensuing body contact was a result of that. Just because a homer announcer says something doesn’t make it true.
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I really don’t understand how goalie interference calls are this hard for the league to get a hold of.
-If a players skates are outside of the crease and there’s contact, then no goalie interference.
-If a players skates are in the crease and there’s no contact, then there’s no goalie interference.
-If a players skates are in the crease and the goalie initiates contact in a way that isn’t attempting to save the puck, then no goalie interference.
-If a players skates are in the crease and he initiates contact with the goalie and impedes the goalies attempt to make a save, then it’s goalie interference.
It should NOT be this difficult for the league to figure out. This isn’t like the NFL’s “what is a catch?” thing where there’s a vague definition of what a football move or procession is, it’s something that can 100% be looked at objectively.
-If a players skates are outside of the crease and there’s contact, then no goalie interference.
-If a players skates are in the crease and there’s no contact, then there’s no goalie interference.
-If a players skates are in the crease and the goalie initiates contact in a way that isn’t attempting to save the puck, then no goalie interference.
-If a players skates are in the crease and he initiates contact with the goalie and impedes the goalies attempt to make a save, then it’s goalie interference.
It should NOT be this difficult for the league to figure out. This isn’t like the NFL’s “what is a catch?” thing where there’s a vague definition of what a football move or procession is, it’s something that can 100% be looked at objectively.
Sure did - the push put palms in a better spot to deflect the puck.
Seriously, it was bad goaltending. And he looked the fool enough that the ref thought he wouldn't have intentionally been that foolish.
