What if the Habs are still in a playoff spot at the TDL ?

Gillings

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I'm not expecting this to happen but I wasn't expecting what we are witnessing right now. So anyway.. Do you guys think our GM could change the plan a bit and try to get some assets to help our team be more competitive and increase its chance to clinch a playoff spot ?
Still sell.. sell sell sell! To the highest bidder!
 

OldCraig71

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I think they would stick with the kids if that's the case... And that would be a great experience for them. But if a guy like Monahan is a great contributor to the success, they won't send him away at the tdl.
With his injury history, it would be better to see him have a good season here and get moved to a contender at the TDL. You can't commit money and term to an older guy that is potentially one more injury from retirement.
 
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BargainBinSpecial

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You still have to sell, no matter what.

Turn Monahan into another first and try to salvage whatever you can out of Bydroudonov. Ship off Joel to the highest bidder at the right price. Same for Armia, Anderson, Gallagher and Hoffman. The last 4 are difficult to trade, so you might as well hold on to them.

Come June, spend your money wisely and target potential UFAs to build around your young core. Doesn't matter if they refuse to come. Stick to the plan and develop within.
 

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For me it would really depend if they are in a fight or in a comfortable playoff spot. Either way I would prefer them not trading youth away to make additions.
 

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Still sell sell sell.

Our window will only really open in 2-3 years. We better build for the future now instead of short term success !!

I’d sell Monahan and Edmundson high and try to get rid of any of Drouin, Dadonov, etc
 
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admiralcadillac

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If Drouin, Dadonov or Hoffman are still on the team and we get something for them one of them is gone.
 

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It seems doubtful that they would go after any big name rental, maybe a depth forward/defenceman that costs a 5th round pick type deal.

That said if it's not a rental but someone with term and/or is a RFA (PLD is the obvious big name) then I could see us giving up some decent assets on the thinking that we could still give up futures for guys in their prime who will be with us for the medium term.
 
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If we don't get a top 5 in this draft 2023 this rebuild will be a half rebuild and we will be a mid team for the next 10 years again, just like the past 10 years.
We need a top 5 and a pick around #20 (panthers)+ a high 2rd pick , that's a minimum.
So we stay in course of tanking ......
 
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26Mats

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I'm not expecting this to happen but I wasn't expecting what we are witnessing right now. So anyway.. Do you guys think our GM could change the plan a bit and try to get some assets to help our team be more competitive and increase its chance to clinch a playoff spot ?

I don't think we'll trade futures for vets

BUT, we could refrain from trading vets. in Monahan's case, since Hughes is so good with asset management, I think he'll trade him if he either doesn't have a contract signed, or if he doesn't think Monahan would accept one.
 

the valiant effort

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Their winning % is tied 12th in the NHL at the moment. Are you really going to nit pick the 5 way tie at 17 points? That would be funny ;)

Nitpick is one of my middle names.

T-22nd in regulation wins
Thus 6th in the Atlantic with lost tiebreaker
Thus 9th in the East with lost tiebreaker
17th in goal differential
18th goals per game
17th goals against per game
28th high danger chances %

Both literally and figuratively not a playoff team. :sarcasm:
 

GrandBison

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It makes no sense to sell if this team is winning. What's the message you send to the players?

Last time they were supposed to last 4 games in the playoffs this team went to finals. Don't sell anyone that fits in the room before the playoff.
 

xX SEYF Xx

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It makes no sense to sell if this team is winning. What's the message you send to the players?

Last time they were supposed to last 4 games in the playoffs this team went to finals. Don't sell anyone that fits in the room before the playoff.
Man, it does make sense to sell Drouin, Dadonov, Hoffman, Armia, Gallagher, Byron, Price whatever the scenario, they are not carrying this team, for most of them not even supporting it

I can understand that it may not make sense to sell Anderson or Edmundson...etc... if the team is winning, there we can talk.

but you cant just say it makes no sense to sell if this team is winning,

it depends who you talking about
 
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jaffy27

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Stay the course and sell off your impending free agents…..I’d even trade one of the goalies if the right deal came along.

We are not there yet
 

MXD

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The only type of player I'd have problem with HuGo acquiring is an expiring UFA whom they would've tried to sign anyways. See if the guy fits with the players and the staff.

Of course it would be a 4th liner -- or a #6 or #7 because there's no point in giving more than a 4th rounder for what ultimately amounts to a paid tryout.
 

JoelWarlord

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We won't be in a playoff spot, but in the unlikely event we do end up in the hunt at the deadline I think all they'd do is a bit of dumpster diving on players they could acquire for a 5th rounder or something. Perhaps it makes them keep Monahan but I don't think that would be the case unless they trade Dvorak between now and the deadline.
 

beowulf

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Still sell sell sell.

Our window will only really open in 2-3 years. We better build for the future now instead of short term success !!

I’d sell Monahan and Edmundson high and try to get rid of any of Drouin, Dadonov, etc
It's easy to say that but when you want to keep players and show the young guys that you are a good team to play for, if you are in a playoff spot comfortably selling might not be all the easy.
 
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GrandBison

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Man, it does make sense to sell Drouin, Dadonov, Hoffman, Armia, Gallagher, Byron, Price whatever the scenario, they are not carrying this team, for most of them not even supporting it

I can understand that it may not make sense to sell Anderson or Edmundson...etc... if the team is winning, there we can talk.

but you cant just say it makes no sense to sell if this team is winning,

it depends who you talking about
That list is filled with players with negative value, of course if a team wants Drouin, you take what they give and run away!
 

yianik

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For the first time ownership has backed a rebuild. Let's just stick with that and take a real shot at becoming a contender that can legitimately challenge for a Cup for more than a year.

Sell.
 

LaP

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Jeff Gordon answered that question last night on Mariano - his response was that he's building a team that can consistently win in the long term and not a team that wins short term. Sounds to me like he'll stay the course

It's gonna be the last year though. I have no doubt starting next summer they'll manage to win now and i'll agree with that. But yeah for now the 2023 draft is supposed to be very very good and we definitely should stay the course for this season. Sell at the deadline vets who can return either a first or a 2nd + good prospect.
 
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Mrb1p

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If the Habs are un a PO spot it means one or two things
1. CC/NS and the rest of the kids are continuing to grow and reach mew heights
2. Vets are playing well.

If 1 = Vets are inconsequential, sell if possible.
If 2 = vets value is higher than it ever will be, sell.
If 1 & 2 = Vets are inconsequential to the future of this team but their value is not, sell.

Sell.
 
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Gravity

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I'd be all in with starting to compete in 2023-2024. We need our crown jewel of the rebuild first.

This rebuild without a top 5 pick in 2023 would be like the leafs having been content with Marner and Nylander whilst missing out on Matthews
 
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Ezpz

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It's gonna be the last year though. I have no doubt starting next summer they'll manage to win now and i'll agree with that. But yeah for now the 2023 draft is supposed to be very very good and we definitely should stay the course for this season. Sell at the deadline vets who can return either a first or a 2nd + good prospect.
We don't have said vets.

I think Anderson will be flipped in a non-deadline move. I don't think HuGo like him as much as Bergevin and apparently lots of teams have called. I think the same is true of Dvorak.
 

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