What if players thread

[Crosby2010]

yes Stamkos was still a good goal scorer after the injury but could he have been a better one and put up more goals? same with Heatly?, lmk what you think about that.

If gretzky, bossy, lemuiex, bure, bobby hull never got injured they all would have got probably over 1,000 goals, and wayne gets over 3,000 points, lmk what you think about that.

Stamkos could still score 700 goals. That's elite company. 8 players have done it in NHL history. That's pretty hard to do better than that. He'll probably be 21st in goals by the end of this season. And with all due respect to Mike Gartner who is a model of consistency, he did it while finishing high in the goal scoring race several years.

As for Heatley his goal scoring took an inexplicable nosedive in his late 20s. This is several years after the accident in Atlanta and this is still with Joe Thornton on his team hitting him with passes. I don't think Heatley necessarily leads the NHL in goals without that injury in any given season, but he still hits 50 as he did twice anyway. He was well on his way to a HHOF career and then just went into a black hole the final 5 years of his career and he wasn't old either. Even by 2009 on Ottawa you could see him declining. So I don't think the accident was the reason because he bounced back after that quite well.

 

[TheBig08]

Stamkos could still score 700 goals. That's elite company. 8 players have done it in NHL history. That's pretty hard to do better than that. He'll probably be 21st in goals by the end of this season. And with all due respect to Mike Gartner who is a model of consistency, he did it while finishing high in the goal scoring race several years.

As for Heatley his goal scoring took an inexplicable nosedive in his late 20s. This is several years after the accident in Atlanta and this is still with Joe Thornton on his team hitting him with passes. I don't think Heatley necessarily leads the NHL in goals without that injury in any given season, but he still hits 50 as he did twice anyway. He was well on his way to a HHOF career and then just went into a black hole the final 5 years of his career and he wasn't old either. Even by 2009 on Ottawa you could see him declining. So I don't think the accident was the reason because he bounced back after that quite well.

yes he could hit 700 which is good but if he was never injured would he have the chance of 800?

Danny heatly's accident was right as he was going into his prime so if he never got injured would his number be higher?

Also what about crosby if never got injured he would probably be about to hit 700 and have a chance at 800 or more, whats your thoughts on that?

 

[TheBig08]

I got a few main ones i would like to know how their career would have turned out, I mainly want to know what their stats would have been. Mario Lemuiex if he never got injured, Bobby Orr if he never got injured, Mike Bossy if he never go injured, Bobby hull he never left the NHL for the WHA, Eric Lindros never gets injured, Peter Forsberg never gets injured, Sidney Crosby if he never got injured, Pavel Bure if he never got injured, Steven Stamkos if he never got injured, Danny Heatly never has the car accident, Iyla Kolvachuck stays in the NHL and doesn't leave for the KHL, Gordie Howe never leaves the NHL for the WHA, Jaromir Jagr doesnt leave the NHL for the KHL. If anybody could figure that stuff out and share the information that would be great.

Just a question if Ovi plays all his games during his career and has not lockout or covid shortened season does he get 1000 or more goals?

does anybody have answers or stats they could share with me on this?

 

[rmartin65]

does anybody have answers or stats they could share with me on this?

… stats for what-if scenarios?

They all get career-ending injuries day 1 of this alternate universe. No points/goals. It sucks.

 

[TheBig08]

… stats for what-if scenarios?

They all get career-ending injuries day 1 of this alternate universe. No points/goals. It sucks.

its called projected numbers

 

[frisco]

Rick Martin if Palmateer hadn't kicked him in the knee and subsequent misdiagnosis and medical bumbling.

Stephane Richer was ultra-talented but fought major depressive disorder most of his career. It's really remarkable he was able to do what he did.

Tom Barrasso missed almost all of his age 24/29/31 seasons with injuries and family crises (daughter's cancer).

Don Murdoch scored 29 goals in 59 games as a rookie (Calder runner up) but was done in by injuries and addiction issues.

My Best-Carey

 

[Crosby2010]

yes he could hit 700 which is good but if he was never injured would he have the chance of 800?

Danny heatly's accident was right as he was going into his prime so if he never got injured would his number be higher?

Also what about crosby if never got injured he would probably be about to hit 700 and have a chance at 800 or more, whats your thoughts on that?

Crosby was always going to be a guy who hit 500-600 goals. But he was a playmaker first. I don't know if his career goals shoot up that much other than just adding some for missed time. We know he is hitting 600, but without injuries he probably hits 700. My guess. But when we do things like this it is all a remote chance anyway. Who else has missed so little time in their career due to injury other than Ovechkin? Gretzky too I suppose when you think about it. And while we are at it, Howe barely missed time due to injuries as well. He routinely hit 70 games in the season which was the max at the time. And it is no surprise that all three are the only ones to hit 800 goals. Mario does this without injuries too. But in all honesty, who else does? Yzerman played a full career and scored 692 goals. Played until he was 40. And Yzerman was an elite goal scorer. 5 times 50 or more. Twice 60+. I'm not sure if I would put Stamkos as a better all-time goal scorer than Yzerman. You see what I mean? And even then, Yzerman missed time later in his career near the end with his knees and such. Not that he was putting up big goal scoring numbers then, but it still counts.

I just think to have a perfect scenario where a player is healthy his whole career is nearly impossible. Gretzky had the 1993 season where he missed time. He was also banged up for much of his Rangers career. And yet we still think of him as durable and injury free more or less. That is no coincidence that the three guys with 800+ goals were durable.