I'm sure Chevy would have wanted to sign PLD by now. As you mentioned an extended PLD could change Chevy's thinking around the TD.
Speculation: What Happens With Dubie?
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Had high hopes with the way the team was going that it might sway him to sign long term but that may be wishful thinking. He has one foot out the door and I am now thinking the other follows in the off season
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This makes a lot of sense. But someone made the point a week or so ago that if he was willing to sign here a deal would probably have been done by now. That is not written in stone but it also makes sense. Maybe Chevy is still negotiating for longer term. Maybe his agent is pushing hard for shorter term or more money, or both. But the lack of a signing by now is not encouraging.
I still like the bridge idea but voted for walking after next season. I am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.
That is also why I am leaning towards a trade for someone with term. If we sign PLD we wouldn't have cap space for another big ticket player.
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Getting Dubois could accelerate their rebuild but they have a long way to go. That PO run by Habs a couple of years ago was very flukey. Proves nothing. At least 3 years before they contend, IMO. Maybe more if they don't execute really well.
That's what I voted for - but only because arbitration wasn't an option. I see zero chance of him signing his QO. If he is not signed, here or elsewhere, he will go to arbitration and get a lot more than 6 mil.
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He would sign PLD today if it was at all possible. No way he would wait and give it the chance to slip away.
if MTL was closer to competing, or had an influx of talent coming in i think they would be super aggressive to get PLD.
they'll be on their 2nd off-season of rebuilding since that cup finals. have people actually seen their Defensive personnel? they need tons of talent imo. In net, Montembault has had a decent season, but i don't know if he's the long-term answer. they have a few nice pieces at Fwd, but overall still need lots of help.
PLD will certainly help on the Fwd side. but w/o a good D or Goalie they aren't coming close to the POs next year either. this isn't a Rangers team in 2019 who had Shesterkin waiting in the wings, just signed Fox, high % of signing Panarin and the 2nd overall pick of a supposed blue-chip player. they could trade a late 1st+ to get Trouba with the reinforcements they had coming. MTL needs tons of work comparatively.
i think they'll muster up an offer, if the Jets don't like it MTL moves on and takes their chances in 2024.
Zhamnov5GoalGame
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The Habs division for the foreseeable future is a tougher road to go than the average team.
The Habs D is a mess and I don't think they have their goalie yet.
Dubois makes them better but not likely enough to crack that Eastern path in the next year or 2.
Making the playoffs and having a shot at the Cup are two different things.
As has been pointed out many times, if not for the Canadian bubble division the Habs may have missed the playoffs that year.
Zhamnov5GoalGame
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Someone should tell Byfuglien that. He signed his extension in February.
kylbaz
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Who knows if that even matters to him. Some guys may just be happy to play where they want.
Zhamnov5GoalGame
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True, but unlike the Montreal comments Dubois is on the record for wanting to play for a winner.
(most pro athletes want that)
I voted a trade this summer.
My HOPE is the team's success this year - including a nice playoff run - has Dubois commit to 5 year deal.
My FEAR is he gets a qualifying offer forcing a trade to Montreal for a fraction of his value and Chevy, in order to keep at least 1 scoring C on the roster gives Scheifele a ridiculous extension that us fans treat ala wheeler contract perhaps as soon as the 1st season it kicks in.
My HOPE is the team's success this year - including a nice playoff run - has Dubois commit to 5 year deal.
My FEAR is he gets a qualifying offer forcing a trade to Montreal for a fraction of his value and Chevy, in order to keep at least 1 scoring C on the roster gives Scheifele a ridiculous extension that us fans treat ala wheeler contract perhaps as soon as the 1st season it kicks in.
do you think if the Jets were outside the PO line, PLD would be mentioned along the lines of Meier for trade targets?
pretty close to the same situation. Meier has a 10M QO, PLD can go the arbitration route and get close to that and both will be UFAs in 2024.
True but it’s also possible a conference finals visit changes his mind as none of us truly know what he is thinking. Just what he thought in the past, which is a good indicator of what he is still thinking. He also has competing thoughts wanting to play for a contender and wanting to play for Mtl. What matters more to him?
Yep. If we were shitting the bed this season and had fallen out of realistic playoff contention PLD would be the biggest name on the TSN trade board and Chevy would be fielding calls from every GM in contention.
Except this board way over reacted to Wheelers contract. More than 1/2 way through year 4 of a 5 year deal he is still a top 6 winger scoring at close to a PPG pace. Just about every team has 1 or 2 contracts worse than his.
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I don't know at some point the top teams will bottom out. That's how the Cap world works.
Montreal's defense is probably not as bad as it looks. Guhle with Savard early in the year were holding water. Matheson has been good since returning, he's definitely a top 4 d-man, and Guhle and Savard are too. Question is can Justin Barron become one? I'd say there is a chance he fills that spot, and then you have Jordan Harris and our Kovacevic, who have held their own this year. I get the sense that Barron was the player that held up a potential draft day trade, but that's just speculation.
Forwards on Montreal have been trash this year outside of a few. They will get rid of a few duds. Still stuck with the Gallagher contract that doesn't age well. But Dach was a good pickup for them. Obviously they would have a better PP with a player like Dubois, I think most teams would feel that way.
Canadiens are going to cash in on some more picks this year with Edmunson and Monahan likely traded.
2024 is where I see the Canadiens prospective talent pushing them into a competitive place. If Cayden Primeau can't become a starting goalie they are going to have to look elsewhere. 2024 is also when the Jets future becomes a complete mystery. Probably not enough prospects to replace players departing...and then question of who stays and who goes is important too.
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Also true.
I am just setting myself up to be pleasantly surprised if he signs with us. We can't rule anything out at this point.
Sorry went with my heart and picked he signs a 3-5 year bridge.
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PLD is coming back... Ehlers let it slip... skip to 1:05
PLD - "we'll find a Danish version (of poutine)"
Ehlers - "I'll bring one back next year"
He must know something we don't lol
PLD - "we'll find a Danish version (of poutine)"
Ehlers - "I'll bring one back next year"
He must know something we don't lol
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Wheeler isn’t what he once was but he has been solidly productive on this contract especially when you compare it with the total boat anchor deals so many other teams have. He has not fallen off a cliff like many feared.
