What happened to Mike Richards?
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So you don’t think that drug and substance users are scum? Well I do, as I have seen several people’s lives destroyed because of using drugs and alcohol and partying like crazy while doing it. People who let that happen to themselves are scum, because they cause themselves and their loved ones horrible damage. Until you get yourself clean from using drugs or of constant alcohol abuse, you are scum. When you start doing drugs on a regular basis, you put yourself in the trashbin, and when you quit that bad habit, that is when you get yourself out of the trashbin.
I know two people whom managed to get themselves out of that trashbin after being seriously addicted to heroine and LSD and other substances, and became still successful and admirable people and have been that way since the 80’s, and I admire those people deeper than any other people in this world. But those who let themselves become scum and do nothing about it, those people I despise, for turning themselves into friggin zombies and causing all the horrible pain to their loved ones. And I can tell you that this is what constant partying with drugs and alcohol leads to eventually. I was on that path as a youngster for some years, but I just rationally started thinking about it and realized that what I was doing was bad for myself and through that especially to the people that I love and love me. No religion involved and I’m by no means an absolutist with alcohol, but I just drink it a few times a year, as I don’t really need it to have fun in general, and for sure I’m not dependant on it and will never let myself become that.
But unfortunately I have lost 5 different friends from my youth because of substance abuse or alcoholism. Three because of alcohol and two because of drugs. I mean that I lost each of them in that sense that through years they went lower and lower as human beings and became completely different persons. Violent, hateful, bitter, unemployed, and physically complete wrecks. Each of them got also badly involved with really bad people and one of them almost killed me, when I happened to visit him a few years ago, because I didn’t want to have anything to do with their drug partying. That was the last day he existed to me as a person and a friend. I have cut all my relationships to these people as their behaviour is threatening and sick towards themselves and other people, and I don’t want to risk my family and especially my 5 year old son’s well being with having to deal in any way with the stuff that these kind of people are doing and involved with.
People who think that constant hard partying, and using constantly drugs or alcohol while doing it is just fine, have really low standards in their life, and probably have also not seen life that much after all to realize what are truly good things in life and what things just cause harm and sorrow.
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Iapyi
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Pathetic lecture.
What you said is "when you are a drug user you are already a piece of crap".
This is a very general statement and you are saying that anyone who smokes the odd joint of marijuana is the exact same as a heroin addict willing to kill his grandma for a fix.
I know people who are hard core partiers who do not let anything control their lives. Fine upstanding people who care about others and have the wherewithal and love to share their knowledge of life with others in an altruistic manner. These people are not a "piece of crap".
Just a suggestion but you may want to be less condescending.
A lot of people in here would be absolutely astonished at the amount of NHL players who party and use drugs during the offseason. Not abuse, but use/expirament on the weekends. News flash!!! These are professional athletes with a ton of money, like to have a good time, and who rarely get drug tested
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Jori Lehtera's house was raided for suspicion of being a coke den this past offseason, so little surprises me anymore.
I love when a stranger justifies their hatred of others by using that other person's loved ones as the excuse. That's high level stuff. "I hate you because people love you and you don't deserve it!"
It's one thing to hate people for actual things they've done in the world, but hating someone (a hypothetical someone!) because you think you care more about their loved ones than they do is borderline.
It's one thing to hate people for actual things they've done in the world, but hating someone (a hypothetical someone!) because you think you care more about their loved ones than they do is borderline.
I have no doubt that there aren’t several of those players. But in the absolute best players there most likely is none. And those are the most professional players in the league anyway. With their skills, but also with their attitude. And so what if some are that stupid and short sighted that they do it? They will find their life in the trashbin eventually, if they continue long enough with it.
I’m honestly a bit shocked that there are so many posters here that want to defend the using of drugs or continuous hard partying. Ask any doctor their opinion on using drugs and doing hard partying with drugs and alcohol and you will hear the truth of it.
Of course if some of you are very young and feel like omnipotents that nothing can do any harm to, you might go and find out about the harmful things the hard way. Unfortunately many people who do it that way never realize and learn how harmful these things are for EVERYONE, and these people will cause horrible damage to theirselves and will throw their lives down the drain eventually.
I know that when you are young you can think that nothing is really that harmful, and if it’s fun and feels good, then YOU are just fine with it. It’s just some other dum and weak ones that get into trouble with the stuff that makes YOU feel so good and even energetic.
But when you come of age and you continue with these bad habits, guess what? That is when YOU become the dum and the weak ones, if you have been using continuously drugs, alcohol or any substances to make your life feel better continuously. People can keep fooling themselves with trying to make their lives feel less empty with intoxicating themselves, but at some point they will come to a breakpoint - sooner or later.
Two of my five friends, that are pitiful addicts nowadays, were in fact partying hard through almost 15 years with most of the time seeming quite well and sharp and active in their lives. But it could be seen in them gradually, that they started to fade a bit year after year, until it was suddenly very visible and tangible in everything - their looks, behaviour, attitude and - Goddammit! - with even their smell!
And during all those years both of them were always telling how partying is just fun for them, but it doesn’t have a hold on them, and they can be totally even without it if they want to. But they very rarely were. Both are in the gutter now. The other one is a complete human wreck whom can’t even speak properly anymore and has no way of getting money than from welfare, as he is physically and with his washed out brain incapable of doing any kind of work or even any crimes to get his fixes or bottles of alcohol. I have heard that he is drinking even cleaning liquids that have alcohol and using practically any kind of pills that he can get from anywhere to try and get his head into the daze. And imagine, this guy was every girl’s dream guy in our highschool days, and even for the next ten years at least. Now he is every woman’s nightmare.
I am just not lecturing, but telling about how seriously dangerous continuous usage of any kind of intoxicating subject is. They are poisons for the body and the brain, and if you want to use any of them, the only way to use them is to use them with small amounts and rarely. And I highly suggest that if you feel that you have a need to intoxicate your body and mind even rarely - use legal subjects then.
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People who have this happen to themselves often have terrible things happen in their lives that push them towards taking/abusing drugs. You cannot lump them all in this pool of "they are scum", especially because you are likely saying it from a space of immense privilege.
Several of those players meaning at least 5+ per team. And in the absolute best players I know for a fact there is. I have friends who partied with a top 10 scorer in the league on numerous occasions during the season last year. Im not defending drug usage, it’ll obviously ruin your life if you abuse it over a long period of time. But your severely underestimating the amount of successful people who do use drugs. And i would wager to say that without drugs, these people would argue they wouldnt be where they were. Go to wall street
This human wreck that I was telling about was in fact from a so called perfect family. Parents were rich and very nice, and they raised their two other kids to become very well doing and smart people. And even that friend of mine, he was by many means a smart and fun guy who didn’t have a bad heart. He wasn’t treated badly by anyone ever. Seriously what you are describing now has nothing to do with him. When he was already totally hooked with his addicitions, I was once having a serious phone call with him, about his situation. He said himself that he had everything given to him, but he wanted more. He wanted life to feel like a continuous fun adventure. He just didn’t want any of the other things and so called normal things in life, because he got so much better feelings from the intoxication.
This is a danger for certain people. And some of them will not realize it before it’s too late. You will not know if it is just like that, if you are like that, as if you are, you will not be able to admit it to yourself. This is what happens with every alcoholic, and even easier with everyone that starts continuously using highly addictive drugs.
Sure there are many sad stories that have lead to people getting addicted to drugs or alcohol, but there are loads of so called happy childhood and youth- stories that have ended in the gutter as well.
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Drugs or not Mike Richards has been more successful in his life than 99% of the posters in here.
Sorry to say, but those people are not in reality then succesful. They are just an image of success. Real success is not just how you look from the outside.
I’m pretty sure that it’s exactly the other way around. Unless you think that success in life is just about getting money and being great in hockey, and being in problems with drugs at the same time.
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you're fun at parties.
your lectures in this thread have been very cringeworthy, and you're definitely on a high horse.
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In what sense? Because he made more money?
I'm more successful than him at not being addicted to drugs and alcohol.
Oh, and btw I have gone through such things in my life that I can tell you that if I would have given myself the excuse I would have been in the front line using drugs or alcohol for the rest of my life. Had to go through some serious troubling issues through my childhood and as a teenager. Also no money, had to make my own way through everything. Now I’m even relatively successful financially and with my work. But at some point of my life I had to struggle through a lot of stuff, and at some point I was even getting on the party wagon to make myself forget the painful things in my life and from my past. But I thankfully woke up and realized that numbing and intoxicating yourself to make yourself feel good, is a HUGE lie. I’m really thankful for getting that realization.
Theres no measurement for success in life. What i think is successful is different than what you think is successful. But i believe a top 10 scorer in the nhl who makes millions of $$$ a year is successful whether he has a good time or not. Not everyone who expiraments turns into a full blown addict
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Being better at something than literally 99.9% of the people in the world and to have enough money to not have to work a day for the rest of your life at 33 years old sounds like a good life to me.
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Money is what turns the world around. While Mike enjoys his life at his nice cottage without having to worry about money until he dies, you'll be working a 9-5 until 65 years old.
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This is a more fair statement. I agree with a lot of what was said, I just didn't like the lumping of all individuals as scum, cause in some cases there are other circumstances at play. But it is true, some people just have more addictive personalities and cannot start the downward spiral once they start.
If he had the need to use drugs even during the time when he was really that exceptional in something (which he btw isn’t anymore), then I seriously doubt how satisfied and happy he has been with the content and the quality of his life. If you feel the need to use drugs you are having a void that you are trying to fill with drugs in your life. Rich and and unhappy with your life is not true success.
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