What exactly are we seeing right now from Vegas?

[ChanceVegas]

I still think the party lights of Vegas may be the 7th man on this roster.

Look at their split stats home vs away:

AWAY

TEAM	GP	G	GA	GF/G	GA/G
Vegas	18	58	60	3.22	3.3

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

HOME

TEAM	GP	G	GA	GF/G	GA/G
Vegas	20	75	44	3.75	2.20

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

At home they are second in the league for goals against, on the road they are bottom 10. Pretty sure there is something in the water out in Vegas, and it is probably too many Four Loco for the visiting teams the night before

The road losses have to do with the Goalie situation...
W 10/6, VGK 2, DAL 1, Fleury (1st goalie)
W-OT 10/7, VGK 2, ARI 1, Fleury (1st goalie)
L 10/30, NYI 6, VGK 3, Dansk (3rd goalie) injured during game, Legace (4th goalie) finishes
L 10/31, NYR 6, VGK 4, Legace (4th goalie)
L 11/2, BOS 2, VGK 1, Legace (4th goalie)
W 11/4, VGK 5, OTT 4, Legace (4th goalie)
L-SO 11/6, TOR 4, VGK 3, Legace (4th goalie)
L 11/7, MTL 3, VGK 2, Legace (4th goalie)
L 11/14, EDM 8, VGK 2, Legace (4th goalie)
W 11/22, VGK 4, ANA 2, Legace (4th goalie)
W 11/25, VGK 4, ARI 2, Subban (2nd goalie)
L 11/30, MIN 4, VGK 2, Subban (2nd goalie)
L 12/1, WPG 7, VGK 4, Legace (4th goalie)
W-SO 12/8, VGK 4, NSH 3, Subban (2nd goalie)
W 12/9, VGK 5, DAL 3, Legace (4th goalie)
W 12/27, VGK 4, ANA 1, Subban (2nd goalie)
W-OT, 12/28, VGK 3, LAK 2, Fleury (1st goalie)

So out of 17 road games, our 1 & 2 goalies are 6-1 and our 4th goalie is 3-7 with some pretty bad losses in there.

 

[MrGold]

...So out of 17 road games, our 1 & 2 goalies are 6-1...

The Vegan Knights Are Here To Steal Your Princesses!!!1!

Hopefully that's the title of the next VGK main board thread.

 

[BattleBorn]

The road losses have to do with the Goalie situation...
W 10/6, VGK 2, DAL 1, Fleury (1st goalie)
W-OT 10/7, VGK 2, ARI 1, Fleury (1st goalie)
L 10/30, NYI 6, VGK 3, Dansk (3rd goalie) injured during game, Legace (4th goalie) finishes
L 10/31, NYR 6, VGK 4, Legace (4th goalie)
L 11/2, BOS 2, VGK 1, Legace (4th goalie)
W 11/4, VGK 5, OTT 4, Legace (4th goalie)
L-SO 11/6, TOR 4, VGK 3, Legace (4th goalie)
L 11/7, MTL 3, VGK 2, Legace (4th goalie)
L 11/14, EDM 8, VGK 2, Legace (4th goalie)
W 11/22, VGK 4, ANA 2, Legace (4th goalie)
W 11/25, VGK 4, ARI 2, Subban (2nd goalie)
L 11/30, MIN 4, VGK 2, Subban (2nd goalie)
L 12/1, WPG 7, VGK 4, Legace (4th goalie)
W-SO 12/8, VGK 4, NSH 3, Subban (2nd goalie)
W 12/9, VGK 5, DAL 3, Legace (4th goalie)
W 12/27, VGK 4, ANA 1, Subban (2nd goalie)
W-OT, 12/28, VGK 3, LAK 2, Fleury (1st goalie)

So out of 17 road games, our 1 & 2 goalies are 6-1 and our 4th goalie is 3-7 with some pretty bad losses in there.

Excellent first post. Welcome to the crew.

 

[HanSolo]

Lack of talent in the league, simple as that. Alot of teams have glaring holes to be beaten by the likes of Vegas. Sad.

we are seeing how watered down and crappy the NHL product is. The fact that an expansion team can become the #1 team in the west is an absolute joke IMO and is very telling about the level of talent that the NHL actually has.

I'm so sick of this argument. Analysis like this views the league through black and white glasses of attributing success and talent through EANHL like "talent levels" as though that means anything. If the talent is so poor in this league then how come 3 teams have 8 of the last few cups?


It's not the talent pool that is poor. The talent pool is fine. It's just being supplemented with young and talented defenders faster than it's getting quality forwards. And more than that coaching changes more aggressively and rapidly than it ever has. Saying Vegas is the shining example of a failure in talent (as though one expansion draft is fast enough to dilute the talent pool this (supposedly) badly this fast) is the easy way to not give Vegas, its players, coaches, scouts, and management an ounce of credit and instead shoehorn it in as "evidence" of the classic pessimist's argument (those who yearn for the pre salary cap days of super teams) which has been regurgitated since I started being a hockey fan, long before Vegas was even a viable concept.


As I said. The NHL with the salary cap distributing talent more evenly is more about how coaches utilize their talent than it is about stockpiling the best players. If you can't see that Gallant has found the right system to dominate in this year's coaching crucible then you aren't paying enough attention. He has his players blending Pittsburgh's speed game with a team like LA's suffocating defense and it works for them without bona fide superstars. That's not evidence of the league not having talent anymore, it's evidence of a wonderful hockey mind putting together the best results he can with the players he was given. It's not like he had the biggest superstars when he was coaching Florida to improbable success.


But rehashing the "league is tapped for talent" argument is far easier than applying some actual analysis and scrutiny and probing beneath the surface to find answers, isn't it?

I still think the party lights of Vegas may be the 7th man on this roster.


Look at their split stats home vs away:


AWAY

TEAM GP G GA GF/G GA/G
Vegas 18 58 60 3.22 3.3

HOME

TEAM GP G GA GF/G GA/G
Vegas 20 75 44 3.75 2.20

At home they are second in the league for goals against, on the road they are bottom 10. Pretty sure there is something in the water out in Vegas, and it is probably too many Four Loco for the visiting teams the night before

I feel like I've said this a million times this season and we're not even halfway through yet. But maybe if you checked who was in goal for the bulk of Vegas' road games you might get some good insights.


Pssst: an AHL goalie and his backup. Oh and one time an actual junior hockey goalie prospect cause Vegas was out of professional goalies for the night.