2025 is the lesser of 2 evils, but still a steaming pile of shit imo. Opened up a lot of salary cap space, have assets to sell in one of the best sellers markets ever, makes sense to sell in our current situation, and we just decide against it.
What deadline was more of a Disaster- 2016 or 2025?
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Cupless44
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Can some explain to me all this "self rental" talk? Self rental for what exactly?
IF they even make the playoffs, i dont think they will...but IF they do...they will be easily dispatched in 4 games by the top teams in the conference they will be overmatched with.
PuckMunchkin
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I disagree.
The current group is competent.
They just were brought here to execute what is a plan that never had a real chance to succeed. They got a 1 year cinderella playoff run out of it.
Raistlin
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1. We are in the playoffs race right now.
2. The last few weeks staying competitive minus our MVP.
3. Is there value in a 7 game first round series? I believe there is value if its a competitive one. esp if we get to see if Lankinen is up to the task that we expect a Demko-lite performance?
4. Give our young blue line playoff experience
5. Do you want Hughes to sign long term? Abandoning the troops while they are in the race sends a really bad massage. STL didnt abandon ship this year, DRW did and got really bad blowback.
Felix the Cat Potvin
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Would the fans complaining have traded Boeser for a second round pick and a middling prospect?
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Based on the returns for much lower quality rentals than Boeser, it isn't realistic to assume that would've been the return.
Raistlin
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If we agree that having Boeser in the lineup makes us better, is this worth missing the playoffs over? its subjective.
Diogenes92
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They are in the playoff race based entirely on how weak the middle of the pack teams have been this year. Not on their own merit. Whoever qualifies in wildcard 2 will likely have one of the lowest point totals in years.
With Hughes and Demko both injured with potentially serious injuries, it would've been more prudent to hedge their bets and take a more conservative approach this season.
They are trending towards barely squeaking into wildcard 2, getting demolished by a much better team, or missing out entirely.
The likelihood of them losing Boeser/Suter for nothing is quite high.
This team likely regresses even more next year without Boeser and no guarantee that they can replace his impact or possibly resign him to a good contract.
Allvin/Rutherford improved the D core and gutted the forward depth and there are still huge question marks on this team.
My thoughts too. The opportunity cost was surely greater this year, but the justification is too (even if I don't love it).
Felix the Cat Potvin
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OK, so Allvin is a bold-faced liar. Or, when something doesn't agree with your sense of "reality", then it's a lie.
Bonham
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2016 was one of the worst calendar years from any GM in league history. It was a total farce from start to finish and the deadline situation was only a small contributor to that.
Today's result is disappointing from a fan's perspective but it doesn't compare to the sheer incompetence by the Benning regime.
Today's result is disappointing from a fan's perspective but it doesn't compare to the sheer incompetence by the Benning regime.
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2016 was bad. It cemented the fact we had a dumb f***ing GM with no redeeming qualities.
2025 is worse as it's fully apparant the owner's mandate has not changed at all and guys like JR/Allvin couldn't even do f*** all to sway his mind.
2025 is worse as it's fully apparant the owner's mandate has not changed at all and guys like JR/Allvin couldn't even do f*** all to sway his mind.
NoShowWilly
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I get it with this one where we currently control our own destiny here, but considering the prices for guys, it stings. Still this is a middle of the pack team. Just boring.
2016 was f***ed. They were arguing that they owed it to the guys when they were bottom 5 in the league.
2016 was f***ed. They were arguing that they owed it to the guys when they were bottom 5 in the league.
In real life when it comes time to improve a team it’s a heck of a lot easier to get players to sign on a playoff team vs a non-playoff team. Dispatched in the first round or not. There is value in that and it should not ignored.
there was no possibility of the direction in 2016 being anything but down, and they were actively trying to move hamhuis and literally couldn't, purely out of administrative incompetence.
anyone mad about this deadline is angry due to a disagreement on strategic alignment, but there is an argument to be made either way.
high school students and post-retirement senior citizens working entry-level clerical jobs are at risk to be fired if they don't complete filings within very clearly established deadlines. we had a team of "adults" in their 40s and 50s running an 8 figure organization that couldn't do that, and from there somehow got another half decade mandate to continue in their jobs lol.
anyone mad about this deadline is angry due to a disagreement on strategic alignment, but there is an argument to be made either way.
high school students and post-retirement senior citizens working entry-level clerical jobs are at risk to be fired if they don't complete filings within very clearly established deadlines. we had a team of "adults" in their 40s and 50s running an 8 figure organization that couldn't do that, and from there somehow got another half decade mandate to continue in their jobs lol.
We will all surely live to rue the day we failed to trade the only man on our roster who has ever scored 40 goals for Ryder, Halak and a 2nd
Wry n Ginger
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Not using the salary cap is just profiteering. Anything they could have gotten would be a win and lots of teams were wanting to use the Canucks cap space. It was a free pick but they decided to keep the cash instead.
Soucy was depth if they were chasing the playoffs. They sold him to save money.
They kept Boeser, Suter and Forbert to make the playoffs and make more money.
Soucy was depth if they were chasing the playoffs. They sold him to save money.
They kept Boeser, Suter and Forbert to make the playoffs and make more money.
Bubbles
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Ah, the mushy middle. A place where most long suffering Canuck fans should know, that this team is always in. Never good enough to be a true contender where you go all in, and never bad enough to sell off everything. How many years has this team "hung on" in a playoff "position". It's always the carrot that keeps this organization going.
Mark my words, we will miss the playoffs in the last 2 weeks or so, and than rip off a winning streak in worthless games and the draft odds go down. It's happened again and again and again.
Mark my words, we will miss the playoffs in the last 2 weeks or so, and than rip off a winning streak in worthless games and the draft odds go down. It's happened again and again and again.
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Glad Brock didn't get traded today I hope he can stay.
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Today is more about the cumulative past failures and people having hung on to hope for too long for an intelligent, long term strategic direction than anything that actually happened today.
Tactically speaking we made four or five significantly worse mistakes this year than today.
Tactically speaking we made four or five significantly worse mistakes this year than today.
eviohh26
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The premise of this thread is painful. Assumptions of what happens in the future have to be maximally negative to even ask the question.
What if:
-Boeser goes on to score a bunch of goals in the last 21 games and is instrumental in a long playoff run and is resigned for a team friendly deal.
-Suter is that depth player that is absolutely required to go on a playoff run.
-Forbort is a beast in the playoffs when refs put their whistles in their pockets.
While none of these are guaranteed, only in hindsight can one determine whether today's non activity was right or wrong. Come back in 6 months and we can talk.
What if:
-Boeser goes on to score a bunch of goals in the last 21 games and is instrumental in a long playoff run and is resigned for a team friendly deal.
-Suter is that depth player that is absolutely required to go on a playoff run.
-Forbort is a beast in the playoffs when refs put their whistles in their pockets.
While none of these are guaranteed, only in hindsight can one determine whether today's non activity was right or wrong. Come back in 6 months and we can talk.
