One Banana being A ?Overall i give this draft only two bananas.
Two Banana's being B ?
I'm not very fond of Banana's
HF Habs: What are your initial impressions of the Habs 2023 Draft class?
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Two Banana's being B ?
I'm not very fond of Banana's
No if we selected Michkov and were trading him later his value would be very suspect because if he was performing we wouldn't be trading him.
Do you think Lafreniere would fetch more now or on the floor of the draft. Kirby Dach another example if he hit his stride with Chicago we aren't getting him for peanuts. Teams in our position rarely trade early first round picks unless they have a compelling reason to do so. We got Dach because Chicago wanted to tank and we got Newhook because Sakic wants to win now.
It’s on a scale of 6 pickles.One Banana being A ?
Two Banana's being B ?
I'm not very fond of Banana's
I don’t want to elaborate more. I’ve got a system.
austin316
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Barriwhite
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Can’t swing for the fences just a little more though. You do or you don’t. They just didn’t.
VirginiaMtlExpat
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I count two NHLers at the very least, Reinbacher in all likelihood and Newhook for sure. That would make it a respectable haul and worth a B for me. If one of the three goalies avails himself to be starter material, then I view that as a success. As I mention every year, BPA is actually a weighted sum of likely performance and need, but this draft had a very strong whiff of need-first. No point on getting upset until we see more of Reinbacher, but the highlight reels are very encouraging, especially in terms of skating. I have faith in Newhook developing into a useful 2C/3C/2LW, which is fine. Still, some of the rumored offers, especially Nashville's, were very intriguing.
If Reinbacher maps to a talent comparable to Seider or Heiskanen, the grade rises to an A. Dallas is not the same team without Heiskanen, and is rounding into a perennial competitor.
Edit: one last point. I find it annoying that the argument that they make for not choosing Michkov is that they didn't see him enough live. Can't some of them get off their f*t *sses and book a flight to see him, if we are talking about this level of talent? It seems like a smokescreen for something else, e.g. a disruptive player, but at least make the explanation believable, rather an indication of team laziness.
If Reinbacher maps to a talent comparable to Seider or Heiskanen, the grade rises to an A. Dallas is not the same team without Heiskanen, and is rounding into a perennial competitor.
Edit: one last point. I find it annoying that the argument that they make for not choosing Michkov is that they didn't see him enough live. Can't some of them get off their f*t *sses and book a flight to see him, if we are talking about this level of talent? It seems like a smokescreen for something else, e.g. a disruptive player, but at least make the explanation believable, rather an indication of team laziness.
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I think it's OK to make some "safe" picks though. That being said, they have plenty of prospects and had lots of picks. They should have used more picks on potential high ceiling talent instead of potential role players is what I meant. Who knows though, maybe some of the more obscure selections will pan out the way Romanov did. The way it looks today though, they drafted a bunch of AHL/NHL tweeners (aside from Reinbacher who has full time NHL upside). Trading that late 1st and early 2nd rounder hurt this draft for sure. Newhook better be better for the Habs than he was for the Avs.
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I am too old to follow prospects predraft anymore so I only really know about guys in the range of our first pick. I really liked reinbacher all year.
The rest I'll look up when I'm free. If Fowler somehow becomes a number one goalie this is a decent draft considering what we traded. If our scouts feel this draft was overhyped or Newhook becomes something good it will be fine.
Right now I'm probably in the c-b area because it's not easy to suggest anyone picked after the second round could be an NHLer in most years.
The rest I'll look up when I'm free. If Fowler somehow becomes a number one goalie this is a decent draft considering what we traded. If our scouts feel this draft was overhyped or Newhook becomes something good it will be fine.
Right now I'm probably in the c-b area because it's not easy to suggest anyone picked after the second round could be an NHLer in most years.
Vachon23
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And we have had a #3, a #3, a #1 and now a #5. Forget about always, how about once in a while.
Barriwhite
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WeThreeKings
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I know we can’t fully judge a draft class immediately after the fact, but how can this not be viewed as massively underwhelming and a disappointment to come away with that haul in a deep draft during an extremely important tank year for a “rebuilding” club. It just seems like a waste. One of those goalies better hit.
One f***ing pick in the top 65 sucks, plain and simple. I seriously hope Newhook pans out for us.
Honest question about Florian Xhekaj. Could we have drafted him in the 7th?
One f***ing pick in the top 65 sucks, plain and simple. I seriously hope Newhook pans out for us.
Honest question about Florian Xhekaj. Could we have drafted him in the 7th?
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Only other clubs would know but I think so and if we couldn't, oh well.
Newhook & Reinbacher as what we have to show from the top 60 is pretty darn good imo.
3-5 years from now, odds are solid that few teams will have more to show from the first 2 rounds.
JianYang
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Problem with trading down is they would have lost out on reinbacher. Phoenix was likely going to take him if he was on the board.
If the truly believe that reinbacher was the guy they wanted, then they had no choice but to stay put
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Fan behaviour this time around.. we all need to be better.
Im sure had we traded pick 31 and 37 for 16 you would’ve been over f***in joyed!!
90% of these kids picked today will not sniff more then 50 games in the lrague and will be a bunch of non factors.
We got ourselves a top 2 D possibly a #1 stud.
We got a potential top 6 fwd in Newhook
We drafted a pretty good goalie in Fowler, I know the potential is there!!
The sexiness of Florian Xhekaj
It’s not as extravagant as lst years haul but i can honestly say i feel good about this draft.
Hopefully Reinbacher stays in Laval so we can monitor him on Eastern time, will be fun to watch this kid play with the likes of Struble and Mailloux!!
Gave it a B
The fact we slected a top end RHD is worth that alone.
If he turns out along with Newhook, Fowler and Xhekaj…..it will have A written all over it!!
The fact we slected a top end RHD is worth that alone.
If he turns out along with Newhook, Fowler and Xhekaj…..it will have A written all over it!!
VirginiaMtlExpat
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Exactly how I see it. By then, Newhook could either be good enough to play 2LW or alternate as 2C with either Dach or Suzuki, whichever is not 1C by then. Reinbacher could get the most ice time as 1D, which is saying a lot, given the promise of who we have already. And one or two goalies could surprise and carve out a career as starter or backup goalie.
Edit: not expecting much from Florian, a name I have seen since Kraftwerk.
"we're gonna slack for Mack" and then take a right shot D. This is going to be another long year.
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David Reinbacher: Good pick. Very good player to be. But we left better on the table.
Jacob Fowler: Great pick. Would have been my choice too. Great upside.
Florian Xhekaj: Fun story. Picked too soon.
Bogdan Konyushkov: Who? What? Whatever.
Quentin Miller: Good pick. I might have chose Ratzlaff instead....but he's a nice bet.
Sam Harris: At that point, I would have picked Cam Allen. But not enough viewing of him. Eager to see what he does in the NCAA.
Yevgeni Volokhin: Good stats. But who, what, meh.
Filip Eriksson: Most intriguing pick probably of them all. Love to take a flyer on a PPG guy that got hurt for most of the year. Really good bet.
Luke Mittelstadt: Not a bad bet in the 7th.
So in the end, I will be generous and give that draft a C on results. An F on strategy. Still, 1 surefire and solid NHL'er in Reinbacher. 1 REALLY promising prospect in net in Fowler. Couple of really intriguing bets in Miller and Eriksson. Future Laval enforcer in Xhejaj.
We could have done more. With the 5th pick. By keeping our 2nd rounders. Few players I would have picked instead of our mid ones...Lipinski, Karpovich and even Tourigny. But frankly, I think it's going to be a forgettable year in mid-rounds. There won't be a lot of homeruns there.
Jacob Fowler: Great pick. Would have been my choice too. Great upside.
Florian Xhekaj: Fun story. Picked too soon.
Bogdan Konyushkov: Who? What? Whatever.
Quentin Miller: Good pick. I might have chose Ratzlaff instead....but he's a nice bet.
Sam Harris: At that point, I would have picked Cam Allen. But not enough viewing of him. Eager to see what he does in the NCAA.
Yevgeni Volokhin: Good stats. But who, what, meh.
Filip Eriksson: Most intriguing pick probably of them all. Love to take a flyer on a PPG guy that got hurt for most of the year. Really good bet.
Luke Mittelstadt: Not a bad bet in the 7th.
So in the end, I will be generous and give that draft a C on results. An F on strategy. Still, 1 surefire and solid NHL'er in Reinbacher. 1 REALLY promising prospect in net in Fowler. Couple of really intriguing bets in Miller and Eriksson. Future Laval enforcer in Xhejaj.
We could have done more. With the 5th pick. By keeping our 2nd rounders. Few players I would have picked instead of our mid ones...Lipinski, Karpovich and even Tourigny. But frankly, I think it's going to be a forgettable year in mid-rounds. There won't be a lot of homeruns there.
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VirginiaMtlExpat
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Good summary, but Newhook should count too. I believe that MSL and Nicholas, along with greater opportunities, will enable him to improve.
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Overall seem like we over paid for Newhook and a lot of miscalculation, FOMO, contradictions and reach.
Not willing to take Michkov but still drafting 2 Russians, Drafting 3 goalies, talking about how size in important with Reinbacher and than targeting smaller D, drafting so many overager. Seem like we we pick at 5 and 69 and call it a day if your going to take wild home run swing why wouldn’t you take the younger and bigger player…
Not willing to take Michkov but still drafting 2 Russians, Drafting 3 goalies, talking about how size in important with Reinbacher and than targeting smaller D, drafting so many overager. Seem like we we pick at 5 and 69 and call it a day if your going to take wild home run swing why wouldn’t you take the younger and bigger player…
