Post-Game Talk: Well we knew it would be a slog

[MessierThanThou]

RNH, Nurse, Klingberg, Henrique and Brown all had poor games.

We should scratch all them for next game with the promise they will play game 4


Am i doing this rite?

You just said Skinner was fantastic though. Are you implying he had a poor game and contradicting yourself already?

 

[foshizzle]

guys play bad and get gassed all the time. Have you never seen Nurse play? You are usually getting gassed when you get hemmed in. And if you are playing well you aren’t getting hemmed in.

What does McDavid having 11 points last year mean to anything. He had 11 points and they lost.

You said Barkov has been bad. My point is that this is just what McDavid does in the head to head match up against Barkov. You saying Florida hasn’t played well is ridiculous. You have been saying Oilers weren’t making the playoffs, Oilers aren’t winning round 1, Oilers aren’t beating Vegas, Edmonton losing to Dallas, to once again. Saying they will come back down 3-1. I have never seen this much insecurity in my life

 

[foshizzle]

There should be a metric on how many goal mouth pucks went just wide. Panthers got some around net luck in this game and pucks suibbling away just enough, or their D or G batting it away just enough. Oilers were so relentless that there were lots of close calls like that.

Even in the loss the Oilers had the clear edge in high quality chances. Other nights those pucks are going in.

In game 2 against Dallas seemed like everything went in, went right. Panthers contest better all over the ice though. Its so much harder sledding now.

You nailed it here Drive. The bolded especially. The damn is going to break.

 

[foshizzle]

I’m not seeing it posted here- but Stetcher was out for warmups last night. I’m not sure why no one is talking about that. I think we may see 11-7 because the panthers are preying on the 2 lefty set up. Not going 11-7 must have been a game time decision. Anyone who went to game 1- was Stetcher out for warmups last night-ups?

 

[Shibumi]

That second period was horrible.

 

[McJadeddog]

Goalie needs to keep that puck out. Simple as that. Bob was better

We have not won a finals game against Florida where Skinner was negative in GSAx, and we have not lost a game where he was positive. This is using moneypucks GSAx. We had a 60% chance to win, and Skinner had a -0.84 GSAx and Bob had a +1.37. In game 1 the Oilers had a 62% change to win, Skinner had a +0.71 GSAx and Bob had a +0.65.

Basically the Oilers played pretty much the same and Skinner had a slightly off game, largely coming down to the winning goal. Whereas in game 1, Bob let in a somewhat weak goal against Arvidsson.

This series is going to come down to goaltending, full stop. This shouldn't be surprising to anybody.

 

[McJadeddog]

There was nothing for Marchand if skinner just takes the bottom of the net away.

What an opportunity wasted.

Also f*** the refs. Put the whistles away and didn’t call at least 3 blatant penalties. I don’t watch hockey for those morons to f*** it up.

They aren't f***ing anything up though, this is what the NHL wants. The NHL WANTS game management in the playoffs, and especially in OT. The fact that the only rule that exists in hockey during OT is "puck over the glass" is such a ridiculous indictment of the league, its not even funny. You can literally do pretty much anything else in OT, and there is no call. It's the only sport in the entire world that reduces their rule book to one infraction during OT. Beyond ridiculous and always has been.

 

[McJadeddog]

Two good teams trading chances. Great series so far. Epic fail by the refs again tonight with two horrible mistakes that directly affected the outcome, Bennett directing Eks stick away from him and the blatant too many men call that they literally watched and did nothing about it.

Yup, two badly missed calls. One that led directly to the player scoring not 7 seconds after his infraction.

 

[Oilhawks]

There is no reason to pull Skinner.
A whole lot of overreaction to a flukey goal isnt nearly a good enough reason.

Just like the overall series (the battle between both teams) the battle between Bob and Skinner is razor thin.
Skinner hasnt been an issue at all...to the contrary he is a big part of why the team won game 1.

I’d be one of the last to defend Skinner but I think it’s unreasonable to expect he’s earned some rope. He’s been mostly good to even great since the reset

If he has a shaky game 3 then it’s time to consider Pickard, but no way Skinner doesn’t get the start

 

[MessierThanThou]

We have not won a finals game against Florida where Skinner was negative in GSAx, and we have not lost a game where he was positive. This is using moneypucks GSAx. We had a 60% chance to win, and Skinner had a -0.84 GSAx and Bob had a +1.37. In game 1 the Oilers had a 62% change to win, Skinner had a +0.71 GSAx and Bob had a +0.65.

Basically the Oilers played pretty much the same and Skinner had a slightly off game, largely coming down to the winning goal. Whereas in game 1, Bob let in a somewhat weak goal against Arvidsson.

This series is going to come down to goaltending, full stop. This shouldn't be surprising to anybody.

@Bumblebee Man I know numbers confuse you, but really try to understand what is being said here. Skinner was not "fantastic" last night. Sorry you don't have the processing power to understand that.

 

[BlackDogg]

For those following along. Down 20% after that game.

 

[LiseL]

Sorry to say it but Skinner... my man... ahh f*** it. Flush this one. They have a lot of clean up to do because they had quite a few defensive breakdowns and lost coverages at times.

Back to their barn, let's go Oilers, rally and regroup.

Not scoring earlier on that 5v3 came back to bite them IMO. With the firepower they have, I was surprised they weren't more opportunistic. Also, have they forgotten that Bob's weakness is top shelf ,especially glove hand? Well, maybe they'll settle down and play better in Fla.

 

[McBigYak]

For those following along. Down 20% after that game.

Makes sense. 3 of 5 remaining games in Florida now. You win game 3 and are up 2-1 with no particular home ice advantage, swings way in Edmonton's favor again.

I just wish this wasn't dragging on so long. We could easily be 3-4 games into this already. Painful

 

[McShogun99]

Yup, two badly missed calls. One that led directly to the player scoring not 7 seconds after his infraction.

It didn’t help that Ekholm quit on the play trying to get the penalty and took himself out of it for a few seconds.

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

Skinner has been unreal and it took one goal the fans don't comprehend to melt.

Go rewatch that game, and count the brain dead decisions by Oilers. Skinner kept it close. Our best players made some terrible decisions that lead to goals.

 

[Oilhawks]

For those following along. Down 20% after that game.

Moneycuck

 

[LiseL]

the goal was on a breakaway
have they tried not giving up a million breakaways?

Yeah, I thought the consensus before this series started was that the Oilers would get a lot of breakaways due to the Cats D always pinching in the Ozone. Well, that hasn't been happening. The few that have, Bob has stopped because they've been shooting 5 hole or not being fast enough. They also need to figure out how to hold onto a lead against this team.

 

[McJadeddog]

Us having a 40% chance of winning the series now seem about right. We don't have home ice advantage anymore, and both games on our home ice went to OT. Meaning that even with home ice (last change, etc) that the two teams were pretty much exactly even, so on the road where we won't have those advantages anymore, things won't go as well for us. You can surmise that if both teams played about as good as games 1-2, that without the home ice advantage, we will likely lose both games 3 and 4. Or at the very least would require some puck luck to get a split in Florida with the current levels of play by both teams.

Basically we need to be better than we were in either games 1 or 2 for the games in Florida. Skinner especially will likely need to steal a game and have a big GSAx game, something like a +1 to +1.5 GSAx type game. Either that, or we need Florda to lay an egg in one of the games, with Bob playing badly, or something similar.

If we play like we did in games 1 and 2, there is a pretty good chance we are back home down 3-1.

 

[kevy9999]

That second period was horrible.

Oilers are known for horrible second periods. Check the first game or 2 games against Dallas in edmonton.

 

[LiseL]

I think way too much McDrai is taking us away from playing as a 4 line team that made us successful in past.

Put back Podz-Drai-Kapi

Especially if every game goes to OT. McDrai can eat up extra minutes in the extra periods . I remember watching game 7 last year and thought, if they just played McDrai less, it might've been a different result. Drai was injured, McDavid was out of gas. But most coaches are stubborn, even when it doesn't work. I wonder if Knobs will be the same way.

 

[LiseL]

Stecher needs to come back in, I don’t understand this from Knoblauch who is normally an evidence based kind of person. Nurse-Kulak is getting murdered and Klingberg has become a turnover machine. There’s a very easy fix there but he refuses to make it.

It's not like Knobs put in Stecher before by choice, it was due to injury. If he doesn't want someone playing their off-side, he'd have to sit Kulak. Stecher played well with Nurse. Most coaches are stubborn, I'm not holding my breathe.

 

[BlackDogg]

Moneycuck

Probably sponsored by Calgary cuck

 

[LiseL]

As the series goes on, Florida won’t be able to keep up. Maurice already sees the fatigue setting In with his defence. Almost an extra game played so far.. only benefits the oilers.

That'll only be true if Knobs keeps rolling 4 lines and 3 D pairings. It would also mean not uniting McDrai until they need some offense. Overplaying McDrai will also get them fatigued. It also disrupts the flow of the other lines IMO.

 

[LiseL]

Maybe I wasn't clear enough even though I stated it exactly, that the Oilers lean heavily on McD, Drai, and Booch. They're eating huge minutes and McD had the most minutes in this game, as a forward, which is nuts. Most of our production comes from these 3 guys. Invariably. Florida has more balanced production. They can setup a top nine. Their 4th line were getting regular enough shifts.

Florida did roll lines in this game. More than did in game one. That was one of the adjustments. They made many adjustments. Their board seals and NZ play were much more integrated and effective tonight. We weren't getting much out of our long pass game tonight. They took that away for the most part.

Hopefully Knobs makes some adjustments too.

 

[Shibumi]

Brown hasn’t looked the same since the concussion, usually has the wheels.

The concussion was followed up by a bout of the flu.