Post-Game Talk: Well we knew it would be a slog

[MessierThanThou]

I’m not criticizing Pickard. He did well in his role but the teams offense also did their job. You win as a team and you lose as a team. They didn’t play well enough to win. Simple as that.

Oh, I see, you're one of those people who believe the team just coincidentally got much better the first game without Stu, then coincidentally had a complete collapse in his first game back.

He was bad enough to be a negative difference maker against LA and in pretty much all of his losses, including tonight. He was also good enough to be a positive difference maker against Dallas and Vegas, and in game one. The Jekyll and Hyde narrative isn't bullshit.

 

[Drivesaitl]

One more post before I hit the sheets. Bobrovsky has given up the same amount of goals and nobody is questioning him. It's two great teams that create a lot of offense so it's going to be a tough series for the goalies..Skinner is the guy they're rolling with and he's earned it with his play quite frankly IMO.

Bobo is facing the very best players in the world. The degree of difficulty is not even close to the same thing.

The Panthers don't have ANY player even CLOSE to the scoring threat that McD, Drai, Booch represent. Then we have legend scorers like Perry and Kane. Nuge, the rest of our D who can all wire the puck.

So Pickard didn't earn it? The only reason Skinner is even in the net is Pickard got injured. Pickard was on an incredible 6-0 run.

WE won't agree on this one and thats Ok. Nighty night. Must be late where you're at.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Oh, I see, you're one of those people who believe the team just coincidentally got much better the first game without Stu, then coincidentally collapsed in his first game back.

He was bad enough to be a negative difference maker, just like tonight. He was also good enough to be a positive difference maker against Dallas and Vegas, and in Game one. The Jekyll and Hyde narrative isn't bullshit.

They won game 3 against the Kings because Jim Hiller is an idiot. They were what, 6 minutes away from going down 3-0 in the series?

 

[McBigYak]

One more post before I hit the sheets. Bobrovsky has given up the same amount of goals and nobody is questioning him. It's two great teams that create a lot of offense so it's going to be a tough series for the goalies..Skinner is the guy they're rolling with and he's earned it with his play quite frankly IMO.

He has a complete vendetta against Skinner. It does not matter how well he plays, he will always discount Skinners play by downplaying it with something else.

Stuart Skinner never bails the Oilers out, the opposition simply doesn't convert.

Skinner didn't play well against Dallas. Dallas simply couldn't score.

I'm not a Skinner fan but I don't hate the guy enough to have this amount of hate.

Must be pure torture mentally.

 

[MessierThanThou]

They won game 3 against the Kings because Jim Hiller is an idiot. They were what, 6 minutes away from going down 3-0 in the series?

OK, so you do think it's all a coincidence and Skinner never has bad games and it's always the fault of everyone else.

Cool.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Bobo is facing the very best players in the world. The degree of difficulty is not even close to the same thing.

The Panthers don't have ANY player even CLOSE to the scoring threat that McD, Drai, Booch represent. Then we have legend scorers like Perry and Kane. Nuge, the rest of our D who can all wire the puck.

So Pickard didn't earn it? The only reason Skinner is even in the net is Pickard got injured. Pickard was on an incredible 6-0 run.

WE won't agree on this one and thats Ok. Nighty night. Must be late where you're at.

Skinner is facing down the best team in the world. Just imagine if Tkachuk was healthy.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Oh, I see, you're one of those people who believe the team just coincidentally got much better the first game without Stu, then coincidentally had a complete collapse in his first game back.

He was bad enough to be a negative difference maker against LA and that return game against Vegas, just like tonight. He was also good enough to be a positive difference maker against Dallas and Vegas, and in Game one. The Jekyll and Hyde narrative isn't bullshit.

Pickard is impeccable playing and moving the puck. This allows the D to function zone outs so much quicker. In contrast Skinner is botching every 2nd touch on the puck and is unpredictable. he puts the puck basically anywhere. Fortunately he's not putting it in the slot anymore. he was doing that even this season.

Our game starts with the D. Its so much easier for our D to have a goalie that is good and valuable with the puck. The transition system starts there.

With Skinner in net it favors the opponent forecheck at times as they can get to pucks that are improperly played by Skinner.

The people not seeing this never will.

 

[Drivesaitl]

they're very good, but they'd look a lot different with a Skinner between the pipes every year

Point taken and match. haha.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Skinner is facing down the best team in the world. Just imagine if Tkachuk was healthy.

This is a keith is bad post. Skinner hasn't had to face much in terms of anybody going. Theres two Panthers going. Bennett and Marchant. he can't stop either to save his life.

Fortunately for him and us Verhaege, Barkov, Reinhard, Tkachuk have all been awful. Wonder about teh scoreline with Skinner in net if everybody on the Panthers was feeling it.

 

[Drivesaitl]

He has a complete vendetta against Skinner. It does not matter how well he plays, he will always discount Skinners play by downplaying it with something else.

Stuart Skinner never bails the Oilers out, the opposition simply doesn't convert.

Skinner didn't play well against Dallas. Dallas simply couldn't score.

I'm not a Skinner fan but I don't hate the guy enough to have this amount of hate.

Must be pure torture mentally.

oh here we go...

No vendetta, I would just like a competent starting goalie. you know, ever, like any other contending team over the last decade have.

But yeah, watching Skinner can be bad for health at times. lol

"Discount Skinner" now theres a line. Thanks.

 

[jitterbug]

He has a complete vendetta against Skinner. It does not matter how well he plays, he will always discount Skinners play by downplaying it with something else.

Stuart Skinner never bails the Oilers out, the opposition simply doesn't convert.

Skinner didn't play well against Dallas. Dallas simply couldn't score.

I'm not a Skinner fan but I don't hate the guy enough to have this amount of hate.

Must be pure torture mentally.

do you not remember how bad Skinner's stats were this year? the stats reflect the play, and poster reactions reflect the play. people were consistently negative because his play was consistently negative

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This is a keith is bad post. Skinner hasn't had to face much in terms of anybody going. Theres two Panthers going. Bennett and Marchant. he can't stop either to save his life.

Fortunately for him and us Verhaege, Barkov, Reinhard, Tkachuk have all been awful. Wonder about teh scoreline with Skinner in net if everybody on the Panthers was feeling it.

Yes the guy with the most goals in the playoffs (and possible Conn Smythe leader) and the rat king.

About half our forwards aren’t going. Maybe even more than that. And maybe 2 defensemen are going too. Imagine the score line if we had the depth that got us here going.

 

[redgrant]

This is a keith is bad post. Skinner hasn't had to face much in terms of anybody going. Theres two Panthers going. Bennett and Marchant. he can't stop either to save his life.

Fortunately for him and us Verhaege, Barkov, Reinhard, Tkachuk have all been awful. Wonder about teh scoreline with Skinner in net if everybody on the Panthers was feeling it.

Even the last game Vs Dallas 3 goals from a pathetic Dallas effort. It's not that he's been awful this series but needs to lock down a few of these games.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Yes the guy with the most goals in the playoffs (and possible Conn Smythe leader) and the rat king.

About half our forwards aren’t going. Maybe even more than that. And maybe 2 defensemen are going too. Imagine the score line if we had the depth that got us here going.

Doesn't change Keith that Bennett and Marchant have been pretty much all Skinner has had to worry about in series. of course he fails miserably against both. Marchant alone beat him 3X tonight and twice in OT.

McD, Drai would all have hat tricks every game against a can of Stewed Skinner.

 

[McBigYak]

do you not remember how bad Skinner's stats were this year? the stats reflect the play, and poster reactions reflect the play. people were consistently negative because his play was consistently negative

WTF does his regular season stats have to do with these playoffs?

After Pickard got injured, he came back and provided above average to borderline excellent goaltending in both the Dallas and Vegas series.

This is the definition of vendetta. One that has not been justified in his play over the last two series until the squeaker tonight.

The original poster gave Skinner absolutely zero credit for how well he played previously. In fact, he just downplayed it, stating it wasnt Skinner but the other teams inability to score being the reason Skinner played well.

You see how ridiculous that is? He gives zero credit when credit is due, but rips him to shreds when he lets in a bad goal.

No one is ever going to put any sort of weight on a person's opinion when it is this biased.

 

[MessierThanThou]

do you not remember how bad Skinner's stats were this year? the stats reflect the play, and poster reactions reflect the play. people were consistently negative because his play was consistently negative

And therein lies the difference between the two camps here.

One side can acknowledge, or even has the ability to discern, when he's playing well and when he's playing poorly.

The other side will always acknowledge when he's good, but seems to always cover their ears when he has a bad game, and blame McDrai, Bouch, and everyone else they can for seemingly every poor performance. Some of these people are trolls, and at least one just isn't terribly bright.

Yes, mistakes were made tonight and our PP was shit...but with OT ensuring all things being equal, that pathetic goal lost us the game. And that is 100% on the goalie when the shot is botched like that and should absolutely be saved, breakway or no f***ing breakway. Maybe the loss isn't 100% on him, but that mistake is, and that should take the biggest f***ing slice of the blame pie.

We had Jekyll in game one. Hyde tonight.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Even the last game Vs Dallas 3 goals from a pathetic Dallas effort. It's not that he's been awful this series but needs to lock down a few of these games.

Yep. The last 3 Skinner games haven't been good. Its creeping into worse Skinner again. Not at a good time. First dump in OT Skinner majorly misplays the puck. So many times tonight he did that. Which is routine for him and the kind of thing none of the Skinner supporters seemingly see. Thats starting OT and he does shit like that. Teams already nervous.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

f***ing awesome game.

I fully thought the Oil were going to miracle win this one. Unfortunately it feels more like Oil beat themselves than Panthers winning it.

Rockhead Tkachuk has been terrible. Did his best work getting injured at 4 Nations and selfishly playing in the gold medal game and then enabling LTIR load up with Marchant and Jones. f***ing sandbagger Jones has easily been the greaseball's best d-man.

That shorthanded goal was a killer and second weak rush OT goal f***ing hurt. Ekholm simply can't take a slapshot from that angle in OT. And Skinner who's been great you want and need that stop. Kulak and Nurse had many unforced error icings. Still waiting for Frederic to show up. Bouchard unbelievable again. Scoring Perry miracle time. Kane'em finish and wrecking ball. I'd like to see them throw Kapanen for a shift or two with McDavid Draisaitl Stack Line. Podkolzen needs/deserves more than 12:45 toi.

Oil need a massive response in game 3. A hair from 2-0 to a cage fight.

 

[McBigYak]

And therein lies the difference between the two camps here.

One side can acknowledge, or even has the ability to discern, when he's playing well and when he's playing poorly.

The other side will always acknowledge when he's good, but seems to always cover their ears when he has a bad game, and blame McDrai, Bouch, and everyone else they can for seemingly every poor performance. Some of these people are trolls, and at least one just isn't terribly bright.

Yes, mistakes were made tonight and our PP was shit...but with OT ensuring all things being equal, that pathetic goal lost us the game. And that is 100% on the goalie when the shot is botched like that and should absolutely be saved, breakway or no f***ing breakway.

We had Jekyll in game one. Hyde tonight.

In regards to Drivesaitl, I have never once witnessed them give credit when skinner plays well. He often just deflects and points to some other situation that in turn caused skinner to play well.

Case in point, look a few posts back where he completely disregards Skinners play in the 2 prior series, when you'd have to be completely blind or oblivious to not acknowledge the fact he played very well.

 

[MessierThanThou]

In regards to Drivesaitl, I have never once witnessed them give credit when skinner plays well. He often just deflects and points to some other situation that in turn caused skinner to play well.

Case in point, look a few posts back where he completely disregards Skinners play in the 2 prior series, when you'd have to be completely blind or oblivious to not acknowledge the fact he played very well.

I can't speak on his behalf, especially tonight where he's likely to be far more upset at Skinner, but I do remember a few games ago someone accused him of the same thing, and in the very post to which they were replying Drive had literally said "Skinner played well tonight."

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Doesn't change Keith that Bennett and Marchant have been pretty much all Skinner has had to worry about in series. of course he fails miserably against both. Marchant alone beat him 3X tonight and twice in OT.

McD, Drai would all have hat tricks every game against a can of Stewed Skinner.

It’s weird that you just complemented the Panthers and are now ragging them for “having nobody going”.

I mean they got forty shots tonight and multiple breakaways. They weren’t exactly “not going” in this game.

 

[tardigrade81]

Hate when games to go OT like that. Did Skinner give up a stinker. Yes! But he was fatigued. That's generally what happens in double overtime. Some stupid goal. Won't hang it on him

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

I have a buddy from Utah who just learned hockey. He's never seen playoff games until now, and he is losing his mind over the officiating standards.

He texted: "No other sport changes the rules in the middle of a game" lol.

 

[Drivesaitl]

It’s weird that you just complemented the Panthers and are now ragging them for “having nobody going”.

I mean they got forty shots tonight and multiple breakaways. They weren’t exactly “not going” in this game.

Not finishing. Only two players finishing for Panthers. Reinhard shot wide 2 feet on a breakaway. thats some lol stuff.

Panthers are a good team, with vast majority of their lineup on a scoring cold streak. Both are true.

 

[Oilhawks]

I have a buddy from Utah who just learned hockey. He's never seen playoff games until now, and he is losing his mind over the officiating standards.

He texted: "No other sport changes the rules in the middle of a game" lol.

Sure would be nice if Bettman and Campbell f***ed off and let some fresh blood run this league. 30 years of a mediocre and game / series managed product, and they want people to bet on this shit? lol