Weekly News Roundup (9/12 - 9/18)

[Cor]

Why doesn't MSG get tv shows?

 

[M.C.G. 31]

It's too expensive to run televised shows there.

That's why Barclays gets so many shows.

 

[GKJ]

Renovations to the building also supposedly made it logistically less-possible

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Daniel Bryan said if he didn't have Brie and wasn't looking to start a family he would have fought to get out of his contract and go fight on the indies.


I'm sorry, I love Daniel, but that is just incredibly stupid.

Meltzer was saying how it was incredibly stupid to bring Daniel back to commentate and be a part of the shows again because he needed a break from it all and now he's seeing it again and being teased and wanting to get back into it. Meltzer doesn't think Bryan should have been named GM, and he knows why Vince did it, but what Vince most likely didn't want to happen has happened.

 

[GKJ]

He's clearly not at peace with this whether he works the indies or not

 

[KaseMeOutside]

he feels fine, a bunch of doctors say he's fine. not all concussions are the same it's possible his brain has recovered and he's ok

 

[Emperoreddy]

Observer notes that with all three members of the SHIELD now faces that they may do some kind of SHIELD reunion spot at one of the next reunion PPVs.

Emma is reportedly really close to returning.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Observer notes that with all three members of the SHIELD now faces that they may do some kind of SHIELD reunion spot at one of the next reunion PPVs.

Emma is reportedly really close to returning.

I disagree that Rollins is even a face at this point. He is at best a tweener but he still talks and acts like a heel on TV.

Also, Emma can do good on either show but I'm almost certain it'll be Raw.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

he feels fine, a bunch of doctors say he's fine. not all concussions are the same it's possible his brain has recovered and he's ok

Until he takes an ordinary bump and makes his brain and own health even worse.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

OP updated.

 

[The Gongshow]

Can they even do a Shield reunion down the road with the brand split? Theres no other factions worth going against a reunited mega face Sheild. The Club (besides AJ) look like complete losers, haven’t been able to get over New Day and are a joke right now. Wyatts/Sheild II could be good but Wyatts being buried as per usual.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Can they even do a Shield reunion down the road with the brand split? Theres no other factions worth going against a reunited mega face Sheild. The Club (besides AJ) look like complete losers, haven’t been able to get over New Day and are a joke right now. Wyatts/Sheild II could be good but Wyatts being buried as per usual.

It would just be a one off spot type thing. Wouldn't have the be some meaningful feud.

 

[NYRFAN218]

It's too expensive to run televised shows there.

That's why Barclays gets so many shows.

I was under the impression they just book the house shows at MSG and the tv shows at Barclays because they figure all things even the house shows would draw better at the Garden than Barclays. MSG in itself is extremely expensive to book which is why I'm surprised they even bother with the house shows.

Renovations to the building also supposedly made it logistically less-possible

How so? Only thing I could think of is maybe the bridges being an issue.

 

[Kimi]

I was under the impression they just book the house shows at MSG and the tv shows at Barclays because they figure all things even the house shows would draw better at the Garden than Barclays. MSG in itself is extremely expensive to book which is why I'm surprised they even bother with the house shows.



How so? Only thing I could think of is maybe the bridges being an issue.

It's not the rent that's the issue, it's all the extra costs that come with running TV there. You have to deal with all the expensive union fees and stuff that eat into your profits when you do TV or a PPV (the Network Special happened as it's not really TV so didn't have the extra costs). So house shows, while expensive, are not running at a loss.


It's also WWE's home arena, so they're going to always go there unless they're always losing a lot of money.

 

[Virtanen18]

- Adam Cole's contract: "Since the subject of Adam Cole’s contract has been asked about, since it’s no secret WWE wants him and was at one point directly saying they’d fast-track him to the NXT title, but he’s now the ROH champion, this is the situation. He’s under contract through 12/31, but because he missed four months due to his injuries, ROH is claiming the contract continues through the end of April"

Still dying for this to happen. One guy I've wanted to see in WWE for a long time.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Updated OP with some more stuff from the observer thanks to Isi's post.

 

[Emperoreddy]

PW Insider says there are talks for an all women tournament similar to the CWC. If it happens it may happen in the first quarter of 2017.

Big Dave mentioned that Backlash only drew 7000 fans, despite a lot of papering, and there were reports of tickets being given away for free at various places around town. Also the first time in recent history a WWE PPV didn't crack the top 20 of searches on the day of.

There are talks to have a Takeover at MSG.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

PW Insider says there are talks for an all women tournament similar to the CWC. If it happens it may happen in the first quarter of 2017.

Big Dave mentioned that Backlash only drew 7000 fans, despite a lot of papering, and there were reports of tickets being given away for free at various places around town. Also the first time in recent history a WWE PPV didn't crack the top 20 of searches on the day of.

There are talks to have a Takeover at MSG.

Three weeks of a build, no Cena, not much promotion behind it, and it being Richmond will certainly do that. It should improve for No Mercy though. They have the benefit of a little more of a build, Cena working the show, and the fact that they're jumping into a new arena so some people will be going just to get a glimpse of the new Golden 1 Center. I wouldn't be surprised if it sold out or papered a sellout but it definitely should do better than 7k.

 

[GKJ]

Richmond also has a really small arena

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Richmond also has a really small arena

I think it holds like 13k or 13.5k for wrestling so yeah it's pretty small but 7k is still a product of not a whole lot of hype and a lacking card in terms of drawing beyond the main event.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Three weeks of a build, no Cena, not much promotion behind it, and it being Richmond will certainly do that. It should improve for No Mercy though. They have the benefit of a little more of a build, Cena working the show, and the fact that they're jumping into a new arena so some people will be going just to get a glimpse of the new Golden 1 Center. I wouldn't be surprised if it sold out or papered a sellout but it definitely should do better than 7k.

I think I read somewhere that No Mercy is sold out or close to it.

Brand new arena (believe it is the second event ever in that space) and as of right now the only PPV scheduled for that area so the demand is better.

Big Dave framed it that they were very disappointed in only 7K. Also not all 7K paid either. There were a lot of comps.

For now is doesn't appear to be a trend though, just an outlier.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I think I read somewhere that No Mercy is sold out or close to it.

Brand new arena (believe it is the second event ever in that space) and as of right now the only PPV scheduled for that area so the demand is better.

Big Dave framed it that they were very disappointed in only 7K. Also not all 7K paid either. There were a lot of comps.

For now is doesn't appear to be a trend though, just an outlier.

It will be the third event as McCartney is doing two nights there on the 4th and 5th. I hope they come around more frequently to Sacramento with that arena in place. It'll definitely be better than what they had in Arco/Sleep Train. Damn that place was awful. I just know that I'll be in the lower bowl on the TV side for No Mercy and hopefully the show goes off well.

I'm not surprised that they're disappointed with 7k for Backlash but Richmond, three weeks, not a good build, and not a hell of a lot of promotion for it is going to do that. They can't just think that they can just run into a town with a PPV coming and think it's going to do well w/o some real effort.

 

[Kimi]

I don't think they had long to advertise locally for the show like they normally can for PPVs due to all the Smackdown PPVs being the newly added dates and not the once they had already booked. So the first one would have taken a hit no matter where they did it.

 

[GKJ]

I think it holds like 13k or 13.5k for wrestling so yeah it's pretty small but 7k is still a product of not a whole lot of hype and a lacking card in terms of drawing beyond the main event.

it was only like 11 and change for hockey, so I don't think it's even close to 13.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

it was only like 11 and change for hockey, so I don't think it's even close to 13.

13.5 is what Richmond Coliseum says it is for concerts but for wrestling it just depends on the configuration. If basketball can hold just shy of 12k, wrestling can do 13k in the right setup. With the PPV setup, I'd probably say it's around 11 or 11.5k.