Weekly News Roundup (10/17 - 10/23)

scrubadam

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There was a better chance of HBK coming back to wrestle DB for 30 than there is of him wrestling Styles now. HBK isn't wrestling ever again. He probably will make an appearance at the show because he tends to when they're in the area but he's not wrestling.



I don't think it's as much of him being a mark for himself as much as it is him not articulating what he's actually thinking in an eloquent enough way to get what he wants across. The audience never really gave Ryback a chance especially the smarks and that wasn't even really his fault. The look they gave him for Ryback as a Goldberg clone in an RVD singlet with what they were doing with him was too obvious. The man wasn't going to be a main eventer but he was a solid midcard guy and probably could've been a solid upper midcard/now and then in the main event type of guy. Ryback-Goldberg certainly was a match fans wanted to see even if it was just going to be a squash for Goldberg and had nothing to do with Ryback's ability to draw squat.

The dude did get a raw deal from the office and from fans. He's not all that talented overall but enough to have gotten the job done with the right backing that he never got. That happens frequently in wrestling. Everything he's doing now is just to make a buck. Can't really fault wrestlers for doing that.

I was always a bit of Ryback fan myself but he is in the wrong era. If he was around in the 80's or 90's he probably could of been a big star.

I don't think he ever got a raw deal, he got the appropriate deal. He just never really caught on with the fans to be as big as he thinks he should have been. Overall I don't think the audience wanted him as a main player.

As far as the office, while from his own mouth Ryback was offered over 500K a year and he turned it down. Thats a very good offer for a wrestler esepcially when a guy like Rollins or Dean is pulling in 1.1 Million. Ryback is not worth half the amount Rollins or Dean is yet thats what the office offered him. I don't fault him for trying to make a buck everyone has to eat but it seems the only interest people have in him is about his former WWE career. In a few months when all that has been forgotten he won't be making any bucks at all. Good luck to him maybe he can pull an AJ and reinvent himself in Japan and come back to the WWE as a main event star but I personally don't see it.
 

Pinkfloyd

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Hideo is out for two months.

Considering how gruesome that looked, I think he's lucky and the management need to stop putting him in with NXT and get him on the main roster. He's too good of a talent to continue to be down there.
 

GKJ

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Should've taped him getting jumped in the parking lot again
 

M.C.G. 31

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- Rumours are going around that James Ellsworth may get a spot in the Royal Rumble match.

- James Ellsworth's t-shirt is outselling the new Goldberg, Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins merchandise.
 

The Lunatic Fridge

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Please stop posting things like this lol

AJ posted this photo with a caption of "interesting photo is it not?" Hype train going into maximum overdrive

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Obviously this doesn't actually confirm anything and he could just be teasing the fans and i typically never buy into anything about a shawn michaels match but my god. If this were to somehow happen i would absolutely lose my ****

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The Gongshow

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Shawn will be there but not wrestling.

Could you imagine a HBK vs AJ match tho... like whoa..

Phenomenal forearm into a sweet chin music.
 

The Lunatic Fridge

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Shawn can't go anymore.

He will be in San Antonio but he won't be wrestling anyone.

Oh please. Taker could go in his 50s. Sting could go in his 50s (obviously not prime but still good)

If he REALLY wanted to, like legtimately wanted to take on AJ he could absolutely do it and everyone would eat that **** up.

He just chooses to stay retired out of respect for taker.
 

AfroThunder396

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If by "go" you mean spend 20 minutes taking bumps and then hitting your three famous spots, sure.

In the past 5 years Taker had one good match against Punk and the rest were not very good.
 

Blitzkrug

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Bull**** Shawn can't go anymore.

He's probably healthier than he was now that he's had a full 6 years off. Dude disappeared for 4 years and came back like he didn't miss a beat.

Good wrestlers just don't forget how to wrestle. Other things can prevent them from doing so, but given how good of shape he looked at Mania last year, i don't think that'll be an issue.

The only thing that can't with him anymore is his hair.
 

The Lunatic Fridge

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If by "go" you mean spend 20 minutes taking bumps and then hitting your three famous spots, sure.

In the past 5 years Taker had one good match against Punk and the rest were not very good.

Well when most of your matches are against a guy who just suplexes you every where and f5's you its hard to make an actual technical good match. Hence him having a good match with punk.

Taker's matches weren't bad don't know what you're talking about.
 

Kimi

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- Rumours are going around that James Ellsworth may get a spot in the Royal Rumble match.

- James Ellsworth's t-shirt is outselling the new Goldberg, Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins merchandise.
There's no way Ellsworth isn't in the Rumble. He'll vanish in a month or so, then come back for a massive pop for the comedy spot in the Rumble.

He's way to over not to do something like that with him. There's massive heat for whoever eliminates him, and then you can beat him up a bit too to add more the night after. No way they'll pass over that.

I'd even go as far as giving him a sort run in the Rumble. Have him eliminate a tag team in the middle of a split up angle or something while they're fighting each other. Then bumble into another elimination before being killed by Corbin or someone who can then go on to a strong series of quick eliminations.
 

Pinkfloyd

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I don't think anyone can truly say one way or the other whether Shawn can actually go. It's been what? Five years since he wrestled a match? That's a long time to be out at his age to think he can just jump in and put on a good 20 minute match. Doable? Yeah. Definitively answer that question? I couldn't.
 

M.C.G. 31

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I think people seriously underestimate how good of shape you need to be to be "in-ring" shape. We've seen really good talents come back from time off and look "off" for their first few matches as they haven't been doing that amount of work every time. CM Punk could go for countless miles in marathons, could work 60+ minutes, but remember his Payback match with Jericho after just two months off? He was clearly tired at around 8-10 minutes in the match. Now imagine that being a 51-year-old Shawn Michaels who, by the time of the Rumble, would be just three months off of being 7 years out of in-ring competition.
 

ColePens

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There are a lot of wrestlers I would question, but HBK is never one of them. I guarantee the guy could put on a 5 star match. He's just that good.

Or maybe I'm the biggest mark of all time for HBK.
 

The Lunatic Fridge

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I think people seriously underestimate how good of shape you need to be to be "in-ring" shape. We've seen really good talents come back from time off and look "off" for their first few matches as they haven't been doing that amount of work every time. CM Punk could go for countless miles in marathons, could work 60+ minutes, but remember his Payback match with Jericho after just two months off? He was clearly tired at around 8-10 minutes in the match. Now imagine that being a 51-year-old Shawn Michaels who, by the time of the Rumble, would be just three months off of being 7 years out of in-ring competition.

He came back from surgery and like 2 months early from when he was supposed to actually be back. no **** he was off :laugh:

He actually went on record saying he was absolutely not ready to come back.
 

Paris in Flames

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Shawn Michaels won't wrestle unless he can come up with a way that his bald hiding hat doesn't fall off.
 

M.C.G. 31

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He came back from surgery and like 2 months early from when he was supposed to actually be back. no **** he was off :laugh:

He actually went on record saying he was absolutely not ready to come back.

The point is that even a bit of time away affects your in-ring shape. It happened to Rollins. It happened to The Rock who was away for the same amount of time as HBK before he came back in 2011. You can't just "stay" in in-ring shape. It's a different animal.
 

Loosie

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I don't see Michaels wrestling again, and because he can or can't 'go' but out of respect for being retired by Taker. There was a lot fo talk about Flair 'ruining' his legacy when he wrestled for TNA after HBK retired him at WM 24.

HBK has too much respect for this business to come back and actually wrestle. He'll make appearances like he's doing now, but I just don't see him wrestling again.
 

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