Pre-Game Talk: Week of Home with our Heads in our Asses (Wed vs. NJD, Fri vs. MIN)

[MacKaRtin]

This is a captain. A leader amongst men. When Landeskog decides he cant play anymore the C needs to go to this guy.

Yeah, I've long thought that Makar is the next man up. It's no coincidence that he was wearing the A for Team Canada

 

[RoyIsALegend]

That ‘22 team, even though they were stacked, had tons of leadership.

Landeskog, E. Johnson, J. Johnson, Cogliano, Helm, and Kadri to a lesser degree. All tremendous leaders in different ways.

We replaced those guys with players who are not leaders. Period.

 

[Linds]

The organization really needs to rip the Landeskog bandaid off, give Cale the C and turn a new corner

 

[expatriatedtexan]

That ‘22 team, even though they were stacked, had tons of leadership.

Landeskog, E. Johnson, J. Johnson, Cogliano, Helm, and Kadri to a lesser degree. All tremendous leaders in different ways.

We replaced those guys with players who are not leaders. Period.

All guys who could feel comfortable debating with their coach. What we've got now are a bunch of hesitant phsyical bottom sixers who get benched for playing the way a bottom six is supposed to play.

I've gone through seasons questioning Jared's lineup decisions. As the Avs were more or less winning I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He no longer deserves any more benefit of the doubt than Prischepov or Ludvig.

Seriously...if the guy can't take the multitude of bottom sixers force fed to him and come up with a decent game plan, I'm just not sure what else there is to say.

Although, it appears I've been saying this a lot today...so I'm just going to shut up on Bednar for a few days now.

 

[Pokecheque]

Its the god awful gamesystem(for this roster) which has now been exposed heavily. 1 line and 1 dedensive pair can execute it.

None of the other lines can and still somehow they are forced to play it. Thats why it looks so awful.

Play trap with all the other 3 lines or something else more suitable to their skillset.

If Avs continue this way they are not going to playoffs...

I’m willing to bet there’s no system where a good majority of these players will succeed. And a boring-ass trap only works if you got the players able to do it (and they don’t). No way, no how can Colton or Wood pull it off.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Bednar is saying we don’t have the same high powered offensive team anymore, and we don’t really have a defensive, physical heavy team either. So where do we go from here? We’re screwed, that’s where

 

[dahrougem2]

Bednar is saying we don’t have the same high powered offensive team anymore, and we don’t really have a defensive, physical heavy team either. So where do we go from here? We’re screwed, that’s where

IMO if you don't believe you can play the old Avs style anymore, you have to become the Western version of the Carolina Hurricanes. Tell the 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines to throw pucks at the net from everywhere and just cycle in the offensive zone, maintain possession and tire out the opposition while hoping the top guys produce.

It's not a long term sustainable winning formula at all but I don't know what else Bednar can try doing other than "top guys go" for 25-30 minutes of death.

 

[myperbixhurts]

IMO if you don't believe you can play the old Avs style anymore, you have to become the Western version of the Carolina Hurricanes. Tell the 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines to throw pucks at the net from everywhere and just cycle in the offensive zone, maintain possession and tire out the opposition while hoping the top guys produce.

It's not a long term sustainable winning formula at all but I don't know what else Bednar can try doing other than "top guys go" for 25-30 minutes of death.

He can try to make players do what they’re incapable of, but I really doubt they’ll have much success. If we had Landy and Val, they’d bring some heavy forecheck cycle game, but we don’t have them. Best thing to do is find a good 2C, get Val back, then at least we’ll have 2 scoring lines, we’d still need few more changes, but at least with 2 scoring lines, we can actually put together some winning streaks instead of losing one winning one, or losing two, winning two etc…

 

[dahrougem2]

He can try to make players do what they’re incapable of, but I really doubt they’ll have much success. If we had Landy and Val, they’d bring some heavy forecheck cycle game, but we don’t have them. Best thing to do is find a good 2C, get Val back, then at least we’ll have 2 scoring lines, we’d still need few more changes, but at least with 2 scoring lines, we can actually put together some winning streaks instead of losing one winning one, or losing two, winning two etc…

You're putting a lot of faith into a guy who hasn't played in almost 3 years and another who has barely played 50% of games in that same timeframe.

 

[myperbixhurts]

You're putting a lot of faith into a guy who hasn't played in almost 3 years and another who has barely played 50% of games in that same timeframe.

No, I’m just saying if Landy was never injured and we had him and Val, those two can bring that power game, cycling and stuff, but we will have Val back and hopefully he stays healthy rest of the season. Just find a good 2C somehow

 

[dahrougem2]

No, I’m just saying if Landy was never injured and we had him and Val, those two can bring that power game, cycling and stuff, but we will have Val back and hopefully he stays healthy rest of the season. Just find a good 2C somehow

Better chance of your perbix not hurting than Val staying in the lineup.