Pre-Game Talk: Week in the Wild West (@SJ, @LA)

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TheStranger

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Yeah that 'inappropriate' comment is a serious lose end of a statement. It brings up thoughts like you just had.

Mine was a little lighter, like maybe she didn't keep herself as covered around the husband as the wife would have liked.

and of course the husband has to do as the wife says, boom, end of relationship with plaintiff
 

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and of course the husband has to do as the wife says, boom, end of relationship with plaintiff

Add that to realizing her story was extremely twisted, and yeah.

I could see the wife still believing her for the most part despite hearing that she hit him first. If everything else was true they still had a case, and he still would have crossed the line in a major way.

Right now the more believable story is that she got a little banged up while attacking him and him trying to get away from her and/or fend her off.

Her sticking her leg in a door to stop him from shutting it makes more sense than him deliberately dragging her over to the door and slamming her leg in it.

With that said, I'm not surprised she had to go as violent as she did in making it up either. If shes on the ground, then he could have slammed her head into the ground as well. If hes going to do that, then you'd believe he'd put forth the effort to drag her across the room and slam her leg in the door as well.
 
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TheStranger

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Add that to realizing her story was extremely twisted, and yeah.

I could see the wife still believing her for the most part despite hearing that she hit him first. If everything else was true they still had a case, and he still would have crossed the line in a major way.

Right now the more believable story is that she got a little banged up while attacking him and him trying to get away from her and/or fend her off.

Her sticking her leg in a door to stop him from shutting it makes more sense than him deliberately dragging her over to the door and slamming her leg in it.

With that said, I'm not surprised she had to go as violent as she did in making it up either. If shes on the ground, then he could have slammed her head into the ground as well. If hes going to do that, then you'd believe he'd put forth the effort to drag her across the room and slam her leg in the door as well.

I can't recall completely now, but wasn't her story that he had trapped her in the room and the leg in the door was her trying to get out? not him dragging her over and slamming it in it?
 

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I can't recall completely now, but wasn't her story that he had trapped her in the room and the leg in the door was her trying to get out? not him dragging her over and slamming it in it?

I think you might be right, it's hard to keep straight what shes said to be honest. That makes more sense.
 

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Could Varlamov not pursue a case himself over defamation or something like that? The more people that come to the stand, the more it sounds like she had plans in her head to frame him in the month/weeks leading up to the whole thing.To "make him not a star"
 

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Could Varlamov not pursue a case himself over defamation or something like that? The more people that come to the stand, the more it sounds like she had plans in her head to frame him in the month/weeks leading up to the whole thing.To "make him not a star"

If he wins this possibly, but I'd guess a counter to hers would possibly damage his image preemptively and make him look like a bully to some people, since hes the rich one.

Also seeing as how she does not have a ton of money, there probably isn't much point to it, unless hes as vindictive as she seems to be.

Oh and as far as the statement above, I do remember her at one point saying something about him dragging her, but I think that was supposed to be by her hair.
 

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Could Varlamov not pursue a case himself over defamation or something like that? The more people that come to the stand, the more it sounds like she had plans in her head to frame him in the month/weeks leading up to the whole thing.To "make him not a star"

Probably... but why waste the time and resources into that case?
 

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Could Varlamov not pursue a case himself over defamation or something like that? The more people that come to the stand, the more it sounds like she had plans in her head to frame him in the month/weeks leading up to the whole thing.To "make him not a star"

He could, yeah. Worth it? Maybe not...
 

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Yeah I suppose, not really worth it for him. I imagine he wants to get past this and never think about it again.

What he should do is get a permanent restraining order, if one is not already in place after all of this clears. That was a mistake I made in my situation, simply letting an 'agreement' stand as protection from contact throughout a divorce.

Had a similar situation myself, it's not a fun story to tell prospective girlfriends about either. So yeah, you just want to forget it. In his case it's public knowledge which is worse.

I'd imagine he'd want it to be forgotten about as quickly as possible as well.

On another note, it's extremely impressive how well hes been able to focus on goal-tending despite this not being resolved.
 

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My god, I'm just catching up on all the BSN tweets. This is just pure gold seeing her completely fabricated story fall apart. The reports of her personality are pretty much exactly as I envisioned.

Best tweet so far is Bordy telling her to calm down in Russian, and her telling him to eff off. :laugh:
 

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I agree that maybe she had some cuts and bruises but those can occur in defense of oneself. The inconsistencies and double-talk she is doing, along with a recorded call of her telling her best friend that she "hit him very hard." I just don't see her winning this case. And if in reality it is a complete fabrication; I feel absolutely terrible for Varlamov. His entire reputation would then be compromised by a gold digger.

Woman beaters are terrible. But like Bill Burr says, "gold digging ****** are the wife beaters for men."
 

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Could Varlamov not pursue a case himself over defamation or something like that? The more people that come to the stand, the more it sounds like she had plans in her head to frame him in the month/weeks leading up to the whole thing.To "make him not a star"

What would be the point of filing a defamation claim? First, it makes Varly look vindictive. That's not how you want to present your client in this kind of case. Second, you'd have to prove he was somehow harmed monetarily to get a monetary judgment against her. Third, what source of funds would she be able to draw from even if she won? The point is, it's not worth it.
 

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I agree that maybe she had some cuts and bruises but those can occur in defense of oneself. The inconsistencies and double-talk she is doing, along with a recorded call of her telling her best friend that she "hit him very hard." I just don't see her winning this case. And if in reality it is a complete fabrication; I feel absolutely terrible for Varlamov. His entire reputation would then be compromised by a gold digger.

Woman beaters are terrible. But like Bill Burr says, "gold digging ****** are the wife beaters for men."

Women physically assaulting men happens a lot. No one should be assaulting anyone. Just walk away and obtain a restraining order. If they show up then call the cops - no ifs, ands or buts.
 

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Women physically assaulting men happens a lot. No one should be assaulting anyone. Just walk away and obtain a restraining order. If they show up then call the cops - no ifs, ands or buts.

Sometimes, like I believe in Varly's case it's not exactly that easy to get away from someone.

Lots of things a person can do to 'not' let you walk away. Take your phone, keys, block door ways, grab you...

Women get away with getting in your face a lot more as well, because they know you're far less likely to retaliate physically, and if you do they can scream bloody violence on you when they get a huge bruise just from you picking them up and tossing them on the bed from the door way.

It's never that simple if the other person will not let it be.
 

flyfysher

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Sometimes, like I believe in Varly's case it's not exactly that easy to get away from someone.

Lots of things a person can do to 'not' let you walk away. Take your phone, keys, block door ways, grab you...

Women get away with getting in your face a lot more as well, because they know you're far less likely to retaliate physically, and if you do they can scream bloody violence on you when they get a huge bruise just from you picking them up and tossing them on the bed from the door way.

It's never that simple if the other person will not let it be.

I agree with you up to a point and you're absolutely right that it's far easier said than done. But it's like a friend of mine once said about not cheating in your relationship. Recognize what's happening and don't allow yourself to ever be put in that position. Same principle.
 

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Nice to see this discussion seems about a page or two from descending to various iterations of "*****es be trifflin". They do be trifflin, and I realize that one of those trifflin *****es went after our boy; but damn guys...
 

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I agree with you up to a point and you're absolutely right that it's far easier said than done. But it's like a friend of mine once said about not cheating in your relationship. Recognize what's happening and don't allow yourself to ever be put in that position. Same principle.

A relationship is not a used car that's easy to walk away from when it breaks down. You live together, you're in a bedroom you both share. Where are you suppose to go when **** pops off and gets crazy?

You also do not really think about it getting to that level when it's happening. The other person snaps and takes it there very quickly.

I've been in a similar situation (assuming Abrams wife's version of the story is the truth)
 

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Nice to see this discussion seems about a page or two from descending to various iterations of "*****es be trifflin". They do be trifflin, and I realize that one of those trifflin *****es went after our boy; but damn guys...

Huh?
 

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Where can I find the case online other than here? I'm sorta computer illiterate. Any links?
 

AW8

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Thank you.

I remember being at family sports the day after thus went down. My son was skating on Hamilton pretty much by himself that day. I was going from side to side watching Avs/my son. I get a text from my bro that Downie was traded. I am like what he is on the ice right now. I grunt to other side and sure enough players were pulled from the ice. Crazy day.
 
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