Buffalo Bills Week 9 -- Miami (2-5) @ Buffalo (6-2) Sunday 11/3, 1:00 PM, CBS

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I'd easily give a first and MIN's second for Garrett. To be clear, I still don't think this is our year for the SB, but you'd get the biggest difference maker around and who the hell knows with the way KC has been playing and BAL's Jekyll and Hyde season... (The NFC is a mix of trash and overachievers, so in my mind those are the two best teams we'd have to beat)

Aside from this year, you could then cut Miller in the off-season and have actually improved the pass rush before free agency and the draft even start. There should still be cap space to replace/improve positions of need AND add depth. New rotations and base-D options become available. There's so much upside, of course with the risk of age and cost. Which I'd wager are worth it.
 
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If there’s anything you can rely on, it’s the browns mismanaging their affairs. Trading him now fits their MO
I'd trade this year's 1st and next year's 1st. Browns are likely in tear down mode with the Watson fiasco, and might consider drafting a QB. They'll need to eat a lot of salary at some point, so moving on from Garrett and collecting picks could be the way ahead.
 

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That could also be the logic in keeping McD and not gambling on a new coach being better or worse than McD.
if we’re citing the original stat, it’s the opposite. You can argue that it’s not meaningful but a >0% rate is better than a 0% rate

The trouble of course is that there’s no way for any of us to really have evidentiary support for positions on McDermott based on team performance. Imagine that the bills win a bunch of regular season games and bow out to the chiefs or ravens in divisional. One might say that this proves the team has a ceiling with the current coaching. Another might say that without said coaching they don’t get that far in the first place. Either *could* be true (though obviously we have our own ideas) and without ownership making a change we’ll never know. I could see them stuck in this lane for most of Allen’s career because if there’s anywhere in the nfl that’s a trap, it’s Good but not Great
 

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if we’re citing the original stat, it’s the opposite. You can argue that it’s not meaningful but a >0% rate is better than a 0% rate

The trouble of course is that there’s no way for any of us to really have evidentiary support for positions on McDermott based on team performance. Imagine that the bills win a bunch of regular season games and bow out to the chiefs or ravens in divisional. One might say that this proves the team has a ceiling with the current coaching. Another might say that without said coaching they don’t get that far in the first place. Either *could* be true (though obviously we have our own ideas) and without ownership making a change we’ll never know. I could see them stuck in this lane for most of Allen’s career because if there’s anywhere in the nfl that’s a trap, it’s Good but not Great
For me the challenge is that a different head coach is not guaranteed to be better.

And if you look at how things have worked out in many of the recent coaching change offseasons, it is way worse than a coin toss to hire a new coach and they turn out to be a solid hire.

Detroit OC Ben Johnson will be a hot name.

Maybe he is the next Sean McVay. Or, maybe he's the Mike McDaniel.

And how much can you trust Terry Pegula when it comes to hiring a coach?
 
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For me the challenge is that a different head coach is not guaranteed to be better.

And if you look at how things have worked out in many of the recent coaching change offseasons, it is way worse than a coin toss to hire a new coach and they turn out to be a solid hire.

Detroit OC Ben Johnson will be a hot name.

Maybe he is the next Sean McVay. Or, maybe he's the Mike McDaniel.

And how much can you trust Terry Pegula when it comes to hiring a coach?
Yeah, there’s absolutely no guarantee of improvement. If you’re in a position where you think you’re hard-capped short of the overall goal, though, taking the swing is the only thing that makes sense even knowing the risk. Whether or not that hard cap is there is the root of the issue, right?

I’d hope and pray that Terry wasn’t involved in the selection, but of course, it’s his money.
 
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For me the challenge is that a different head coach is not guaranteed to be better.

And if you look at how things have worked out in many of the recent coaching change offseasons, it is way worse than a coin toss to hire a new coach and they turn out to be a solid hire.

Detroit OC Ben Johnson will be a hot name.

Maybe he is the next Sean McVay. Or, maybe he's the Mike McDaniel.

And how much can you trust Terry Pegula when it comes to hiring a coach?
I agree it's not a guarantee, but I trust Brandon Beane being able to find a suitable replacement. The man seems to know football pretty darn well, or at least knows what it would take to succeed.

Also, the Bills would be quite the destination for any coaching candidate. I could see a guy like Vrabel, if the opportunity rose, to find Buffalo a good next stop (if he was available). Heck, I could see Buffalo being a solid place for Belichick to look at for a return, especially if he could just focus on the coaching aspect.
 

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I won't be shocked if they use a relatively early pick at OG if they move on from Edwards and it is Anderson vs the rookie for the LG spot.
you will also have Van Pran-Granger in the mix at center at some point.

I agree it's not a guarantee, but I trust Brandon Beane being able to find a suitable replacement. The man seems to know football pretty darn well, or at least knows what it would take to succeed.

Also, the Bills would be quite the destination for any coaching candidate. I could see a guy like Vrabel, if the opportunity rose, to find Buffalo a good next stop (if he was available). Heck, I could see Buffalo being a solid place for Belichick to look at for a return, especially if he could just focus on the coaching aspect.
I really believe Beane and McD are a tandem tbh and will not separate. I could be wrong.
 
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I agree it's not a guarantee, but I trust Brandon Beane being able to find a suitable replacement. The man seems to know football pretty darn well, or at least knows what it would take to succeed.

Also, the Bills would be quite the destination for any coaching candidate. I could see a guy like Vrabel, if the opportunity rose, to find Buffalo a good next stop (if he was available). Heck, I could see Buffalo being a solid place for Belichick to look at for a return, especially if he could just focus on the coaching aspect.

If something drastic happens coaching wise, I'd really want an offensive mind to come in. Rotating out our OC every 1-2 years is a PITA.

you will also have Van Pran-Granger in the mix at center at some point.


I really believe Beane and McD are a tandem tbh and will not separate. I could be wrong.
I agree, at least in the mid-term.
 
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