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Bocephus86 said:
Absolute joke if you think Rogers is a Top-5. Give me a break. He chokes away end games more than he wins them.
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lol, are we just going to ignore that the guy's also won a Super Bowl? The guy regularly had seasons where he was getting 30+ tugs and a minuscule amount of turnovers. He's a 4x MVP winner had the Packers winning a gazillion games for over ten years. What are we talking about here? Even in the playoffs he's got 45 touchdowns and 13 picks (11-10 record with a Super Bowl). Am I supposed to slag him because Matt Lafleur kicked a FG in the end zone?

Call him out for his trolling/stupidity but get real. The guy was an absolute monster for a very long time. Even his incompletions were worth watching.
 
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Bocephus86 said:
Absolute joke if you think Rogers is a Top-5. Give me a break. He chokes away end games more than he wins them.

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  • Rodgers is 21-45 when trailing by more than a point in the 4th quarter against teams with a winning record (according to one source).
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Wait is here in any of these records?

Current Leaders (since 2000)​

  1. Tom Brady (46)
  2. Peyton Manning (43)
  3. Ben Roethlisberger (41)
  4. Matt Ryan (38)
  5. Drew Brees (36)
  6. Matthew Stafford (36)
  7. Russell Wilson (31)
  8. Derek Carr (28)
  9. Ryan Tannehill (26)
  10. Kirk Cousins (25)

All-Time Leaders (since 1950)​

  1. Tom Brady (46)
  2. Peyton Manning (43)
  3. Johnny Unitas (34)
  4. Dan Marino (33)
  5. John Elway (31)
  6. Fran Tarkenton (29)
  7. Warren Moon (28)
  8. Y.A. Tittle (27)
  9. Joe Montana (26)
  10. Bart Starr (25)
DUDE IS WORSE THAN TANNEHILL AND COUSINS. At comebacks.

Over rated.

Spring in Fialta said:
lol, are we just going to ignore that the guy's also won a Super Bowl? The guy regularly had seasons where he was getting 30+ tugs and a minuscule amount of turnovers. He's a 4x MVP winner had the Packers winning a gazillion games for over ten years. What are we talking about here? Even in the playoffs he's got 45 touchdowns and 13 picks (11-10 record with a Super Bowl). Am I supposed to slag him because Matt Lafleur kicked a FG in the end zone?

Call him out for his trolling/stupidity but get real. The guy was an absolute monster for a very long time. Even his incompletions were worth watching.
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Rodgers is a joke
 
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Spring in Fialta said:
lol, are we just going to ignore that the guy's also won a Super Bowl? The guy regularly had seasons where he was getting 30+ tugs and a minuscule amount of turnovers. He's a 4x MVP winner had the Packers winning a gazillion games for over ten years. What are we talking about here? Even in the playoffs he's got 45 touchdowns and 13 picks (11-10 record with a Super Bowl). Am I supposed to slag him because Matt Lafleur kicked a FG in the end zone?

Call him out for his trolling/stupidity but get real. The guy was an absolute monster for a very long time. Even his incompletions were worth watching.
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Top 100 QB. You're typo says a lot.
 
Spring in Fialta

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Bocephus86 said:
If you can't argue the facts, argue the man. Well done.
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I did give you the facts. The idea of Rodgers being the most overrated QB of all-time and going off strictly some nebulous list regarding 4th quarter comebacks is farcical on its face. I'm looking at the whole body of work, which is pretty much perfect. He has less fourth quarter comebacks than Tannehill? Great. That's a fun trivia question. The guy has a Super Bowl and has won twice as many games as he's lost. Gimme the player.

Anyone who had a set of eyes while watching play for the Packers is firmly aware of how great he was.
 
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Spring in Fialta said:
I did give you the facts. The idea of Rodgers being the most overrated QB of all-time and going off strictly some nebulous list regarding 4th quarter comebacks is farcical on its face. I'm looking at the whole body of work, which is pretty much perfect.

Anyone who had a set of eyes while watching play for the Packers is firmly aware of how great he was.
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So a QB that you can rely on in the 4th is some nebulous reasoning? Where do you personally put him? Because he's not close to top 5, nor top 10. His 'come back kid' BS is a joke. Guy is another incredibly skilled QB that we've seen multiple times every decade. Top 30? Yup. Probably a HOFer, much to my chagrin. But not an elite QB, and incredibly over-rated to his peers.
 
Spring in Fialta

Spring in Fialta

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Bocephus86 said:
So a QB that you can rely on in the 4th is some nebulous reasoning? Where do you personally put him? Because he's not close to top 5, nor top 10. His 'come back kid' BS is a joke. Guy is another incredibly skilled QB that we've seen multiple times every decade. Top 30? Yup. Probably a HOFer, much to my chagrin. But not an elite QB, and incredibly over-rated to his peers.
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I told you, top 5. Brady, Manning, Montana, Mahomes (maybe right now??? On path to surpass him).

Again, that stat is removed from all context. We're talking about a ton of games over a ton of years with varying rosters. I've seen Rodgers be great in the clutch as well. Dude, do yourself a favor, and just run down this guy's stats and his team's records from his time with the Packers. It's a glitch.

I don't know what your personal gripe with him is but you're making yourself look silly. He's one of the greats. Not an elite QB? Really?
 
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Spring in Fialta said:
I told you, top 5. Brady, Manning, Montana, Mahomes (maybe right now??? On path to surpass him).

Again, that state is removed from all context. We're talking about a ton of games over a ton of years with varying roster. I've seen Rodgers be great in the clutch as well. Dude, do yourself a favor, and just run down this guy's stats and his team's records from his time with the Packers. It's a glitch.

I don't know what your personal gripe with him is but you're making yourself look silly. He's one of the greats. Not an elite QB? Really?
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I dont give a shit about Rodgers, other than to say he's the stage 2 level QB we've all seen. He's under Brees and closer to a Philip Rivers than a Patrick Mahomes. Maybe a Roethlisberger, but that guy actually won and pulled him team through. He's Rivers with a tinge of Eli Manning.

Green Bay winning once with him is a detriment to his legacy. I could have won one there.
 
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Bocephus86 said:
I dont give a shit about Rodgers, other than to say he's the stage 2 level QB we've all seen. He's under Brees and closer to a Philip Rivers than a Patrick Mahomes. Maybe a Roethlisberger, but that guy actually won and pulled him team through. He's Rivers with a tinge of Eli Manning.

Green Bay winning once with him is a detriment to his legacy. I could have won one there.
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lol

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Wanna take a guess at what game that was?

Chump takes.
 
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rodgers is right outside the top 5 for me

he's an idiot but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's an all time great QB. he did his job (very well) in the playoffs for GB but was let down by poor defenses and coaching
 
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I dislike both Favre and Rodgers as people but the double standard is hilarious.

Favre: "yeah dude is a scumbag but man could be throw a football"

Rodgers: "yeah dude is a scumbag but he's also the worst QB to ever walk the earth"

It's even funnier because Rodgers objectively had a better career than Favre too. Same amount of rings, Rodgers has 4 MVP to Favre's 3.

Make no mistake, Rodgers is a terrible, self important, arrogant, pseudoscience peddling dickhead but like Favre, he could throw a football very well.
 
Spring in Fialta

Spring in Fialta

A malign star kept him
Apr 1, 2007
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15,982
Montreal, QC
Terry Yake said:
rodgers is right outside the top 5 for me

he's an idiot but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's an all time great QB. he did his job (very well) in the playoffs for GB but was let down by poor defenses and coaching
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I don't remember what year it was but there was a game where he rolled out the pocket and absolutely zipped it in the tightest of spaces to a receiver for the win against Dallas in the playoffs. Best playoff throw I've ever seen.
 
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