Post-Game Talk: WEEK 5 - Pats worst loss at home since 1969 - The Sons of Billy Sullivan are back

[Johnnyduke]

Honest question, as I'm not a Pats fan: What's driving the whole Jerod Mayo discussion about him being potentially the next Head Coach of this team?

Seems to me, he's got a lot of Belichick Stink on him, and if you are truly going to clean house in the coaching staff, what's the rationale behind keeping him? He's an ILB Coach....what makes people think he should be spared from the coming purge, and is a viable head coaching candidate?

I mean if you are truly going to blow this thing up, why not just go scorched earth with this entire staff?

I couldn't really tell you. I'm just going off the fact he has reportedly received interest from outside the organization.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I don't care what Caleb's wish list is, you pick him and play hardball if you have to. I think at the end of the the day he won't refuse NE. They are in line to get a potential generational player that can guide the offense for a long time. I see no point in going forward with Mac, the fans will boo him out of the building every week, ship has sailed. This team played one of the best games agianst Philly this year could have won. The mac jones excuse train of its everyone elses fault is toxic, need a real leader who elevates the locker room

 

[LSCII]

Brady said he wanted to play until age 45.

Belichick famously said he didn’t want to be Marv Levy coaching into his 70s.

Levy was 72. Bill is 71.

He could have walked away after the Super Bowl win in 2018.

Could have walked when Brady did.

Could have walked away at any time these past few seasons.

He didn’t, and instead hung on.

Now the wheels are off the thing and now it’ll need to get ugly in order for it to get fixed.

We’re in uncharted waters, here.

He was never going to walk when Brady did because of his own hubris. It’s why he drafted Jimmy G to start with. He was tired of hearing praises for Brady as the goat and he wanted to show the entire world it was him. So he drafted Brady’s replacement except Kraft backed Tom in the showdown and Bill got bitch slapped. Fast forward to a couple of years later, Brady wanted a reasonable two year commitment from the team and Bill decided to make him eat a shit sandwich. Instead of eating it Brady said f*** you and left for Tampa. Another ring later for Tom, and Bill suddenly reverting back to the clown we saw in Cleveland, the question has been answered emphatically. Bill was not the reason. He bought into his own press clippings and believed but he found out. Now it’s time for Kraft to cut this guy loose because it won’t get any better as long as he’s here.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

The problem with the organization is that they could've just bottomed out 4 years ago with the Cam Newton year, traded off pieces, collected higher draft picks, etc., but they overperformed in 2020, spent a ton of money in the 2020-2021 offseason on mediocre free agents to patch the hole in the boat and got them mediocre results in both years. If they committed to a full reboot back then we'd probably be back in business right now. But now they're in a really bad position where they don't have anything they can really sell off and have to start a full rebuild from square one.

They missed the PO in 2020, so how did they overperform?

 

[LSCII]

On a personal level, it’s great to see the fans suddenly realizing what I’ve been saying for years now. On a fan level, it sucks that I’m right.

 

[Mione134]

I don't care what Caleb's wish list is, you pick him and play hardball if you have to. I think at the end of the the day he won't refuse NE. They are in line to get a potential generational player that can guide the offense for a long time. I see no point in going forward with Mac, the fans will boo him out of the building every week, ship has sailed. This team played one of the best games agianst Philly this year could have won. The mac jones excuse train of its everyone elses fault is toxic, need a real leader who elevates the locker room

You're expecting a college kid who already has a list of teams he only wants to go to, to come into this team and automatically be a leader? With this offensive line? These coaches, and an offense that makes his college offense look like an all pro-madden team?

It's unrealistic

 

[KrejciMVP]

You're expecting a college kid who already has a list of teams he only wants to go to, to come into this team and automatically be a leader? With this offensive line? These coaches, and an offense that makes his college offense look like an all pro-madden team?

It's unrealistic

I want a QB with an arm that can go toe to toe with Josh Allen and makes other better

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[Mione134]

I want a QB with an arm that can go toe to toe with Josh Allen and makes other better

Without an offensive line, he can't do shit.

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

 

[Absurdity]

Passing and running game will suffer without an offensive line. Pats haven't had a reliable offensive line for quite a while.

With that said, Mac Jones reminds of the version of Bledsoe that got replaced by Brady, slow reaction time, poor decision making, can't scramble, and has trouble scanning the field for the best play. Mac Jones' deficiencies are amplified with a really poor offensive line.

 

[CDJ]

Mac reminds me of David Carr. I think both could have ended up being good QB’s in the league if they weren’t in such a bad situation. But they both go shellshocked, then they started to get happy feet and make poor decisions

 

[BruinsFan37]

https://vault.si.com/vault/1989/03/06/a-chapter-closed-so-said-tom-landry-after-the-cowboys-brash-new-owner-installed-a-new-coach-in-dallas

Replace Landry with Bill, and um, you'll prolly get something eerily similar to what eventually comes out.

 

[Fenway]