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That had to be one of the worst offensive performances on both sides of the ball that I can remember in recent memory. I was actually rooting for a tie because I felt like neither team deserved to win.

Why have so many of the prime time games this year been so boring? I look forward to the Monday and Thursday night games every week and this is what we get…

6 of our last 7 games against KC has been in KC.
Yeah, what’s up with that? I was just talking about that with someone the other day. Why do we always face them in KC? Doesn’t seem fair.
 


Buffalo Bills head coach Sean McDermott ruled out safety Jordan Poyer, tight end Dawson Knox, wide receivers Jake Kumerow and Jamison Crowder, as well as cornerback Christian Benford for Sunday's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. McDermott announced all four players would not play during his Friday morning appearance on WGR550.

 
I feel a lot sit this week and if 4-1 heading into next week, you may see the same number sitting because we then fall into the bye the week after. The KC game could be huge for home field though.

6 of our last 7 games against KC has been in KC.


Wonder if that is activating Tre or Ike
IIRC Sal said on WGR earlier this week that Ike is probably further way from being able to be activated but not 100% if I’m remembering that correctly.
 
Reading on the other board of the many children and apparently mentally challenged , they actually think KC is a better team and with our few injuries already accepting the loss.. a week fn early. Wtf.

Are they insane.. I'll admit they are our best matchup..

All I will say between being sad for the lack of sack in our last couple generations, and all the past trauma many must have considering the manipulation of nfl outcomes not favoring some teams.. wtf..

At worst I see equal teams give or take at positions.. Deep down I do not think KC can compete w us w Tre healthy and our healthy linebackers this year ( if Edmonds is alright) ideally I don't think KC can compete any more even in KC with us down 5 starters..but my perception can be tainted by my Homer simpleton nature

My eyes tell me across the board w all of our DT out there.. I'm not worried anymore.. I'm excited to see if we don't beat ourselves..

....Kc certainly tries to gain advantage (all ways possible like new England and even the Tampa lightning sold their soul a little and am glad both buffalo teams so far have not) w some questionable attempts to injure and maim which we seem to be ready for the past year .

And w every team I believe our Best players assume they are going to be set up to have their legs broke etc in every encounter as the true reality of our WWE prison league has been accepted.. our innocence is gone w josh now . The best part? He hasn't changed so far .
 
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Reading on the other board of the many children and apparently mentally challenged , they actually think KC is a better team and with our few injuries already accepting the loss.. a week fn early. Wtf.

Are they insane.. I'll admit they are our best matchup..

All I will say between being sad for the lack of sack in our last couple generations, and all the past trauma many must have considering the manipulation of nfl outcomes not favoring some teams.. wtf..

At worst I see equal teams give or take at positions.. Deep down I do not think KC can compete w us w Tre healthy and our healthy linebackers this year ( if Edmonds is alright) ideally I don't think KC can compete any more even in KC with us down 5 starters..but my perception can be tainted by my Homer simpleton nature

My eyes tell me across the board w all of our DT out there.. I'm not worried anymore.. I'm excited to see if we don't beat ourselves..

....Kc certainly tries to gain advantage (all ways possible like new England and even the Tampa lightning sold their soul a little and am glad both buffalo teams so far have not) w some questionable attempts to injure and maim which we seem to be ready for the past year .

And w every team I believe our Best players assume they are going to be set up to have their legs broke etc in every encounter as the true reality of our WWE prison league has been accepted.. our innocence is gone w josh now . The best part? He hasn't changed so far .
As good as K.C has looked its worth a reminder that they lost to that clownshow of a Colts team.. Even as banged up as we are it should still be a good game.
 
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I actually think the Pittsburgh game is a much bigger deal than the KC game. Take care of business this week and we’re at worst 4-2 heading into the bye after dealing with horrible injury situations through the first third.

Lose this week and we’re going on the road against a team that has haunted us for years and at risk of going into the bye .500.

Pittsburgh isn’t good, but this game is so significant.
 
Yeah, what’s up with that? I was just talking about that with someone the other day. Why do we always face them in KC? Doesn’t seem fair.
The short answer is it's a random quirk and just the way it worked out. Two of the games would have been against any AFC West opponent however based on prior year records it turned out to be the Chiefs. The playoff games could have been in Buffalo if the Bills had the better regular season.

Since someone mentioned six of the past seven then the specific breakdown is:
10/16/2022 Buffalo Bills @ Kansas City Chiefs
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[TR]
[TD]01/23/2022 *[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]36[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]L/OT[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10/10/2021[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]01/24/2021 †[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10/19/2020[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11/26/2017[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11/29/2015[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
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2022 Buffalo was scheduled to play at AFC West opponent who finished the same place in standings as them which was KC
The two January games were in the playoffs and due to KC having a better record than Buffalo.
2021 regular season Buffalo was scheduled to play at AFC West opponent who finished the same place in the standings as them which was KC
2020 Buffalo hosted KC which was their regularly schedule game vs KC (Buffalo plays one entire AFC division each year that isn't the East, so once every three years they play the West in what is really a six year cycle because one time they will host two teams and play two on the road then three years later they host who they played on the road the previous time and play on the road the teams they hosted)
2017 regularly scheduled game in KC
2015 regular season Buffalo was scheduled to play at AFC West opponent who finished the same place in the standings as them which was KC

2019 Buffalo hosted Denver but could have hosted KC had they finished the same spot in their divisional standings the prior season
2018 Buffalo hosted Chargers but could have hosted KC had they finished the same spot in their divisional standings the prior season
2016 Buffalo played at the Raiders but could have played in KC had they finished the same spot in their divisional standings the prior season

Fun fact - next year the Bills play their regularly scheduled game in KC however in 2024 and 2025 they host the AFC West team with the same record (which could be KC) then in 2026 they host KC so potentially KC will play three consecutive regular season games in Buffalo.

Fun fact #2 - between 1997 and 2011 Buffalo played in KC EIGHT of their nine games.

 
As good as K.C has looked its worth a remainder that they lost to that clownshow of a Colts team.. Even as banged up as we are it should still be a good game.

We'll have to be even better than the LA opener w von inside knowledge.. I just mean , at this point... W pitt , kc we can only beat ourselves , which can easily happen overlooking a quarter, a game or a moment.. we have gotten good enough to screw up half a game against good team but Miami certainly proved nothing is certain especially w all arrayed against you.

.. Beane and MCD have set up depth at key bounty positions. That certainly has helped.
 
I actually think the Pittsburgh game is a much bigger deal than the KC game. Take care of business this week and we’re at worst 4-2 heading into the bye after dealing with horrible injury situations through the first third.

Lose this week and we’re going on the road against a team that has haunted us for years and at risk of going into the bye .500.

Pittsburgh isn’t good, but this game is so significant.
They're both incredibly important. The KC game will likely have an impact on who gets #1 seed, but we absolutely cannot drop this game against Pitt.

I know Miami won't have Tua, but their schedule is a cake walk. They're also 11-1 in their last 12. Now, they've had an incredibly easy schedule during those 12 games, but it goes to show you that they're able to beat up on those mediocre-to-bad teams. So, if we go into the bye 3-3...I'll start to worry about the division as well.

We're battered and bruised right now, but there's really no excuse to lose to Pitt unless Allen goes down. The injuries may make it less likely that we blow them out of the water, but if Allen is on- then it should be a blowout regardless.

Also, seems like Edmunds will be a no-go:
 
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I haven't followed the Colts much, but what the hell happened to their O line? They were great from what I remember last year. Definitely near the top of the league two years ago.
They replaced LT Eric Fischer with rookie LT Rainman, who I wanted as a day 2 developmental center prospect, If that explains it at all.
 
The short answer is it's a random quirk and just the way it worked out. Two of the games would have been against any AFC West opponent however based on prior year records it turned out to be the Chiefs. The playoff games could have been in Buffalo if the Bills had the better regular season.

Since someone mentioned six of the past seven then the specific breakdown is:
10/16/2022 Buffalo Bills @ Kansas City Chiefs
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]01/23/2022 *[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]36[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]L/OT[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10/10/2021[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]01/24/2021 †[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10/19/2020[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11/26/2017[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11/29/2015[/TD]
[TD]Buffalo Bills[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]@[/TD]
[TD]Kansas City Chiefs[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]Box[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

2022 Buffalo was scheduled to play at AFC West opponent who finished the same place in standings as them which was KC
The two January games were in the playoffs and due to KC having a better record than Buffalo.
2021 regular season Buffalo was scheduled to play at AFC West opponent who finished the same place in the standings as them which was KC
2020 Buffalo hosted KC which was their regularly schedule game vs KC (Buffalo plays one entire AFC division each year that isn't the East, so once every three years they play the West in what is really a six year cycle because one time they will host two teams and play two on the road then three years later they host who they played on the road the previous time and play on the road the teams they hosted)
2017 regularly scheduled game in KC
2015 regular season Buffalo was scheduled to play at AFC West opponent who finished the same place in the standings as them which was KC

2019 Buffalo hosted Denver but could have hosted KC had they finished the same spot in their divisional standings the prior season
2018 Buffalo hosted Chargers but could have hosted KC had they finished the same spot in their divisional standings the prior season
2016 Buffalo played at the Raiders but could have played in KC had they finished the same spot in their divisional standings the prior season

Fun fact - next year the Bills play their regularly scheduled game in KC however in 2024 and 2025 they host the AFC West team with the same record (which could be KC) then in 2026 they host KC so potentially KC will play three consecutive regular season games in Buffalo.

Fun fact #2 - between 1997 and 2011 Buffalo played in KC EIGHT of their nine games.

A handful of years ago, perhaps when they went from 6 divisions to 8 divisions / 32 teams, the NFL instituted an "even-up" practice for the cross-conference (inter-conference) opponents. Given that the cross-conference opponents were only played once every 4 years, I think if a team went >8 years (2 cycles) not visiting an opponent's stadium they would "force" it on the 3rd cycle / 12th year, because they were going from a 3-year rotation to a 4-year rotation. The argument was the fans would get to see the opponent in their uniforms.

Given the more frequent intra-conference matchups, I don't think that policy applies within conference.

Lastly, I think when that divisional re-alignment occurred, the Bills had one or both of the Vikings and Packers games switched from road games to Orchard Park, because of that "rule". IIRC, neither team had visited BUF in a long time.
 
A handful of years ago, perhaps when they went from 6 divisions to 8 divisions / 32 teams, the NFL instituted an "even-up" practice for the cross-conference (inter-conference) opponents. Given that the cross-conference opponents were only played once every 4 years, I think if a team went >8 years (2 cycles) not visiting an opponent's stadium they would "force" it on the 3rd cycle / 12th year, because they were going from a 3-year rotation to a 4-year rotation. The argument was the fans would get to see the opponent in their uniforms.

Given the more frequent intra-conference matchups, I don't think that policy applies within conference.

Lastly, I think when that divisional re-alignment occurred, the Bills had one or both of the Vikings and Packers games switched from road games to Orchard Park, because of that "rule". IIRC, neither team had visited BUF in a long time.
Re-writing this because this got super meandering the first time I tried.

There is no "even-up" rule, the cycle is set to 8 years with every team visiting every non-conference opponent once.
Year 1 (2002, 2010, 2018, 2026, etc) is in Buf's case at MIN, at GB, home for DET and CHI
Year 2 (2003, 2011, 2019, 2027, etc) is in Buf's case at Dal, at NYG, home for PHI, WSH
Year 3 (2004, 2012, 2020, 2028, etc) is in Buf's case at Sea, at SF, home for Rams, ARI
Year 4 (2005, 2013, 2021, 2029, etc) is in Buf's case at TB, at NO, home for CAR, ATL
Year 5 (2006, 2014, 2022, 2030, etc) is in Buf's case at DET, at CHI, vs MIN, vs GB
Year 6 (2007, 2015, 2023, 2031, etc) is in Buf's case at PHI, at WSH, vs DAL, vs NYG
Year 7 (2008, 2016, 2024, 2032, etc) is in Buf's case at Rams, at ARI, vs SEA, vs SF
Year 8 (2009, 2017, 2025, 2033, etc) is in Buf's case at CAR, at ATL, vs TB and vs NO

This will continue until there's expansion/realignment, at which point they'll have to re-jigger the schedule making process as well. It's also the same way with the full division crossovers inside your own conference. So in 6 years (one less division to cycle) we will host Pittsburgh and Cleveland and go to Baltimore and Cincinnati. It's the "one-offs" that are the reason we've visited KC so much recently. We also hosted them 3 times in a row in the reg. season between 2012 and 2014 (the 2014 ame being the home game in the 6 year cycle, the other two being one-offs)

That rule may have existed when there were 6 divisions, because who you played from the other conference was decided by the previous season's records and not a set cycle (each divison had 5 teams and you only played 4 teams from the other conference, so you couldn't play everyone), but I'm not sure. I do know that no such rule has existed in 20+ years though.

There's an extra NFC game now that should rotate every 4 years (IE in 2021 AFC East teams hosted the NFC East team that finished in the same place as they did in the standings the previous year, and in 4 years they should be the visitors, although no information on that has actually been released past the first 4 year cycle of that particular piece of the schedule (you'll notice no NFC East team is listed for 2025 here).
 
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This will be the third straight time we're hosting Pittsburgh, so it's not like the Bills don't find themselves on the right side of the quirk sometimes...

But given last year and this year we're playing KC due to standings, not the division rotation, it would seem like they should have scheduled it to split 1 home, 1 away...but for whatever reason the NFL schedule matrix doesn't work that way, and I don't understand why. It's why we played at Tennessee so damn much before this year as well.
 
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This will be the third straight time we're hosting Pittsburgh, so it's not like the Bills don't find themselves on the right side of the quirk sometimes...

But given last year and this year we're playing KC due to standings, not the division rotation, it would seem like they should have scheduled it to split 1 home, 1 away...but for whatever reason the NFL schedule matrix doesn't work that way, and I don't understand why. It's why we played at Tennessee so damn much before this year as well.
I suspect the NFL doesn't want you going to an AFC West team's stadium every year you play the whole AFC North, for example, which you would have to do to obtain a true home-away rotation in the two off years. I'd bet the last time we played the entire AFC North we hosted the AFC West team. EDIT: Yep we hosted Denver in 2019. The rotation of the single game happens based on which full division you play, not on a yearly basis. In 2025 we'll host the AFC West team when we play the whole AFC North again.
 
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They replaced LT Eric Fischer with rookie LT Rainman, who I wanted as a day 2 developmental center prospect, If that explains it at all.
I remember you wanting Raimann... But as a centre? That's... Interesting. I know he's on the smaller side (ex TE) but i don't remember seeing any of the so called experts projecting him as a NFL centre.
 
This will be the third straight time we're hosting Pittsburgh, so it's not like the Bills don't find themselves on the right side of the quirk sometimes...

But given last year and this year we're playing KC due to standings, not the division rotation, it would seem like they should have scheduled it to split 1 home, 1 away...but for whatever reason the NFL schedule matrix doesn't work that way, and I don't understand why. It's why we played at Tennessee so damn much before this year as well.

I kind of miss when we’d play Cleveland every year 6 times in 8 years from 2007-2016 was fun.
 
I remember you wanting Raimann... But as a centre? That's... Interesting. I know he's on the smaller side (ex TE) but i don't remember seeing any of the so called experts projecting him as a NFL centre.
Most projected him having to move inside in some capacity because of his size, as you mentioned. I think it was Brugler that pushed the idea of him at center because he’s a highly intelligent player and could use that aspect to his game more there than at guard.

Either way, the Colts thinking he could just be a plug and play LT given his (1) physical limitations; (2) lack of experience at T (1 full season and 1 6-game Covid Season, prior to that was a TE); and (3) lack of experience against good competition (mid-major conference) was foolhardy to say the least.

I’m rooting for him because he was one of my favorite prospects, but I hate seeing what the Colts are doing to him.
 


Guessing Edmunds is probably a no-go, Oliver and Phillips might both be back, and McKenzie is up in the air. They didn't elevate a TE (not sure if they have one on the PS), so it'll just be Morris, with Gilliam probably getting some reps there as well.
 
Guessing Edmunds is probably a no-go, Oliver and Phillips might both be back, and McKenzie is up in the air. They didn't elevate a TE (not sure if they have one on the PS), so it'll just be Morris, with Gilliam probably getting some reps there as well.
Tommy Sweeney for TE blocking situations, We will see if Morris has any game or maybe the Bills target a depleted Steelers secondary if they can put 5 healthy receivers on the field. I think we see Cook out wide as well.

I'd say Edmunds and McKenzie are game time decisions. If Edmunds is a nogo I think they will go with a combination of Dodson and Bernard.


 
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