Buffalo Bills Week 17: New York Jets (4-11) at Buffalo (12-3), 12/29, 1:00 PM, CBS

[oldgoalie]

Officiating sucked.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Seems like more bend to toss it than a hand off but who knows I'm not a doctor

It's probably more the contact that happens when handing off.

Hopefully it was just a cold thing/ precautionary. If he can't hand off next week Trubisky should go

 

[Tsujimoto]

Seems like more bend to toss it than a hand off but who knows I'm not a doctor

It might have been trouble gripping the ball for the handoff, I don't know.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Ugly, but they found a way to win. But I will point out, lots of elite teams have squeaked out wins over bad opposition this year.

Eagles and Chiefs both had a 1 score win over Carolina
Baltimore lost to the Raiders
Lions had a 3 point win over Chicago on Thanksgiving

There are things this team needs to work on, but in the big picture, the win is all that matters.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Penalties

5-34

13-78

Such a joke.

So many PI's where they initiated contact and didn't get off cleanly. That's not PI but this joke of an officiating crew called it everytime.

 

[SwordsgoneWild]

We need a few people back next week . The Jets will take advantage if we don't. I just want to win and lock up the #2 seed then rest everybody for W18.

 

[SabresFan26]

Did they sneak it with Josh on final play?

 

[NotABadPeriod]

So many PI's where they initiated contact and didn't get off cleanly. That's not PI but this joke of an officiating crew called it everytime.

On one team only.

Based on how they were calling it, the Hollins breakup on the very first drive should also have been PI. Probably a few others as well.

 

[misterchainsaw]

On one team only.

Based on how they were calling it, the Hollins breakup on the very first drive should also have been PI. Probably a few others as well.

Hell they rode Shakir 20 yards downfield on that same play. But I guess since they didn't throw to him it's not PI... they probably don't even know illegal contact is a rule

 

[NotABadPeriod]

We need a few people back next week . The Jets will take advantage if we don't. I just want to win and lock up the #2 seed then rest everybody for W18.

I want Houston to beat Baltimore. If that happens, either KC wins and we're locked in this week, or Pittsburgh wins and we're still alive for the 1 seed (though whether the Broncos will have anything to play for will still be up in the air).

 

[SharkInABoloTie]

Ugly ass win. Hope Josh is okay.

 

[Zman5778]

I want Houston to beat Baltimore. If that happens, either KC wins and we're locked in this week, or Pittsburgh wins and we're still alive for the 1 seed (though whether the Broncos will have anything to play for will still be up in the air).

Houston beating Baltimore and KC beating PIT is pretty damned ideal in a number of ways (as long as one assumes the 1 seed is off the table).

Houston would then control their destiny as the 3 seed (ie, win week 18 and they get the 3). We'd be mortally locked into the 2 seed.

 

[SabresFan26]

Ugly game but they found a way to win.

Defense was putrid against the script but figured it out and played well in the second half.

Spector cannot be on the field nor can Elam. I thought the safeties were ok filling in for the two starters.

Offense struggled against the Patriots man to man defense. Would’ve like to see us establish the run a bit more early with the success Cook and co were having. Allen didn’t have his best game nor did Shakir. Cooper had a drop.

Special teams continues to struggle. Would like to see a new coach brought in to fix that this offseason. Good on Bass hitting a nice 50 yarder.

 

[Zman5778]

Ugly game but they found a way to win.

Defense was putrid against the script but figured it out and played well in the second half.

Spector cannot be on the field nor can Elam. I thought the safeties were ok filling in for the two starters.

Offense struggled against the Patriots man to man defense. Would’ve like to see us establish the run a bit more early with the success Cook and co were having. Allen didn’t have his best game nor did Shakir. Cooper had a drop.

Special teams continues to struggle. Would like to see a new coach brought in to fix that this offseason. Good on Bass hitting a nice 50 yarder.

I thought Elam's coverage was mostly fine outside of a couple of REALLY ticky-tack PI calls. Yeah, that last one will get called every time.....but the ones before were sketchy.

Frankly, I think I'd like to see Bishop start over Hamlin -- he had some tight coverages on TEs.

 

[SabresFan26]

I thought Elam's coverage was mostly fine outside of a couple of REALLY ticky-tack PI calls. Yeah, that last one will get called every time.....but the ones before were sketchy.

Frankly, I think I'd like to see Bishop start over Hamlin -- he had some tight coverages on TEs.

Elam is just a target to throw at he constantly interferes, grabs and hooks. A lot of times he doesn’t look back at the ball. Even the announcers thought it was all interferences on him.

I thought Elam's coverage was mostly fine outside of a couple of REALLY ticky-tack PI calls. Yeah, that last one will get called every time.....but the ones before were sketchy.

Frankly, I think I'd like to see Bishop start over Hamlin -- he had some tight coverages on TEs.

I could also see Bishop replacing Hamlin long-term.

 

[SabresFan26]

McDermott kind of called out Smiley for the fake punt. At least sounded like it was the wrong coverage.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

You also wonder if Elam gets insulated a little bit if they have the starting safeties back there as well. Rapp/Hamlin may not be anything special, but their experience in the system at that position means that they might be able to provide more effective cover for Elam, changing how he plays as well.

If Elam is your weakest link in the secondary, you can scheme around it to a certain extent. When you have 3 weak links, much harder.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

 

[Reddawg]

I don’t care what else we do, that absolutely has to be the last time Elam is in a starting CB role for this team. He is bad-bad, and has to take devastating penalties routinely in order to compete and not just get smoked on every play. The experiment is over, hopefully Ras is back extremely soon but someone else needs to be in that role. The Patriots targeted 5 all game long to great effect.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I don’t care what else we do, that absolutely has to be the last time Elam is in a starting CB role for this team. He is bad-bad, and has to take devastating penalties routinely in order to compete and not just get smoked on every play. The experiment is over, hopefully Ras is back extremely soon but someone else needs to be in that role. The Patriots targeted 5 all game long to great effect.

If Ras leaves this summer they need 2 corners imo. The good news there usually pretty good at finding them.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

If Ras leaves this summer they need 2 corners imo. The good news there usually pretty good at finding them.

This will NOT be popular...but we know this team has had a history of bringing back vets who struggle elsewhere but were serviceable here...

Levi Wallace to offer competition for CB2 on the cheap is absolutely the kind of move I could see this team doing.

 

[Reddawg]

If Ras leaves this summer they need 2 corners imo. The good news there usually pretty good at finding them.

We would need someone to replace Ras and someone much better to be the top backup instead of Elam. Christian Benford is top tier and only 24.

 

[TehDoak]

It certainly isn't uncommon for teams to have. a let down after a big win.

However, I think this game was a valuable wakeup call to the defense. If the patriots can drive down the field on us, anyone can.

I get there are injuries, but this is the 3rd week in a row teams have known where the open guy is going to be. How many plays did we get to drake maye early and he was able to find the open man with his first read? I think McVeigh may have exposed something pretty glaring in our defense and we haven't fixed it yet.

 

[Djp]

Ugly, but they found a way to win. But I will point out, lots of elite teams have squeaked out wins over bad opposition this year.

Eagles and Chiefs both had a 1 score win over Carolina
Baltimore lost to the Raiders
Lions had a 3 point win over Chicago on Thanksgiving

There are things this team needs to work on, but in the big picture, the win is all that matters.

Ravens and Steelers lost to the browns
Raiders should have beaten the chiefs
Chic as go has challenged as ll 4 of their div foes

 

[Djp]

If Ras leaves this summer they need 2 corners imo. The good news there usually pretty good at finding them.

Elam is more designed got man coverage than zone. Hr trally isnt that bad.

Bishop is a rookie

They can sign a vet CB on the cheap who wants to win or is looking for a pay day proving themselves playing on a good team

McDermott kind of called out Smiley for the fake punt. At least sounded like it was the wrong coverage.

When you are playing a team who has nothing to lose you try that stuff.