Buffalo Bills Week 15: New England (3-11) at Buffalo (11-3), 12/22, 4:25 PM (flexed), CBS

[misterchainsaw]

I don’t understand what the logic is behind a coach is good enough to get to the final four playoff teams, but not won a Super Bowl. We lost by 3 points to the chiefs while decimated on defense by injuries. Two years before, we lost in overtime to the chiefs. We were in the AFC championship the year before. What is the reasoning/argument that a coach is good enough to do that, but not win a superbowl. It seems like an entirely results driven argument.

Part two of the question is what did Andy Reid change or do differently to become good enough after not being good enough for all those years

And, further, the offense had the ball with a chance to clinch the game last year and unfortunately didn't come through then Bass shanked his kick.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

This speaks more to the shitty sunday schedule.

Read Netflix also paid 75M ea for the Christmas day game rights. Insane.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Are we sure we want Allen to win MVP?

Since 2000, ONE player has won MVP and the super bowl in the same season. (Mahomes in 2022). Brady never did it, Manning never did it, Rodgers never did it - they all won their championships in non-MVP years. Which really just goes to show what a crap shoot the NFL playoffs are, since you know the MVP is on a high seed every year.

 

[HaNotsri]

Are we sure we want Allen to win MVP?

Since 2000, ONE player has won MVP and the super bowl in the same season. (Mahomes in 2022). Brady never did it, Manning never did it, Rodgers never did it - they all won their championships in non-MVP years. Which really just goes to show what a crap shoot the NFL playoffs are, since you know the MVP is on a high seed every year.

It will have zero impact on our super bowl chances but if Allen wins the double it will be more epic.

 

[zenthusiast]

I don’t understand what the logic is behind a coach is good enough to get to the final four playoff teams, but not won a Super Bowl. We lost by 3 points to the chiefs while decimated on defense by injuries. Two years before, we lost in overtime to the chiefs. We were in the AFC championship the year before. What is the reasoning/argument that a coach is good enough to do that, but not win a superbowl. It seems like an entirely results driven argument.

Part two of the question is what did Andy Reid change or do differently to become good enough after not being good enough for all those years

The logic is partially that margins get thinner against better teams, so mistakes are more costly, but also that in order to win a championship, you’ve got to go four games against the best of the best while both playing at a caliber high enough to beat the opponent *and* not having said gaffes.

This team made it to the afc championship once in the current five year stretch of making the playoffs and were outclassed. Yeah, it’s nice to get there, but it’s one time and they weren’t competitive.

With that said, Allen has reached an even higher level than I thought. He could probably win a championship with anyone who doesn’t actively harm him on a regular basis, but I would like the bills to maximize his chances

 

[misterchainsaw]

It will have zero impact on our super bowl chances but if Allen wins the double it will be more epic.

Obviously I'm being a little facetious with that. But it is kind of a crazy run.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Barnwell tweeted that Josh is handling pressure right now better than any QB in 15 years. The line deserves credit as well.

 

[HaNotsri]

Barnwell tweeted that Josh is handling pressure right now better than any QB in 15 years. The line deserves credit as well.

The benefit of running for your life for three years

 

[tsujimoto74]

I don’t understand what the logic is behind a coach is good enough to get to the final four playoff teams, but not won a Super Bowl. We lost by 3 points to the chiefs while decimated on defense by injuries. Two years before, we lost in overtime to the chiefs. We were in the AFC championship the year before. What is the reasoning/argument that a coach is good enough to do that, but not win a superbowl. It seems like an entirely results driven argument.

Part two of the question is what did Andy Reid change or do differently to become good enough after not being good enough for all those years

The results are pretty important there, especially looking at the OT game, which was 100% lost by pisspoor special teams and defensive decisions in the late-game coaching.

The margin for error in the post-season is small. The teams that get there (especially the later rounds) are talented and well-coached.