Jim Bob
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Thank goodness sunset is at 7:28pm and kickoff is scheduled for 8:15pm.
Buffalo Bills Week 13: San Francisco (5-6) at Buffalo (9-2), 12/1, 8:20 PM, NBC and Peacock
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Zman5778
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Whenever I go to watch a Bills game, I call it "My exercise for the day". Why? Because my heart rate gets HIGH and stays there for a good 2 hours. So it's a good workout.
Jim Bob
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Selanne00008
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Color me worried about Taron J and Josh Allen's left arm/hand
Josh has a bit of Von miller in him. No matter WHAT the injury was, in a post game interview he'll say he's 110% fine and ready to go. He could be an amputee and say he's playing he next week. Whatever he says holds no water to me.
Josh has a bit of Von miller in him. No matter WHAT the injury was, in a post game interview he'll say he's 110% fine and ready to go. He could be an amputee and say he's playing he next week. Whatever he says holds no water to me.
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To build on the early play calling, here is what things looked like:
1 & 10 - Cook run for 9
2 & 1 - Cook run for 3
1 & 10 - Pass to Hollins for 14
1 & 10 - Pass play, sack, lost fumble
3/4 plays called were successful and the one that wasn't was a pass play that Samuel was open and Josh turned it down.
1 & 10 - Pass to Coleman - DPI
1 & 10 - Cook run for 15
1 & 10 - Cook run for 5
2 & 5 - Pass to Knox for 21
1 & 10 - Cook run for 9
2 & 1 - Cook run for 4
1 & Goal (8) - Cook run for 4
2 & Goal (4) - Cook run for 0
3 & Goal (4) - Allen rushing TD nullified Torrence personal foul (facemask)
3 & Goal (19)- Allen sacked for 0 yards lost
About the only play call you can really complain about is the Cook run on 2 & Goal from the 4.
In your 2 examples above Brady is rocking a 37% pass rate on 1st down. While this is just one game, the concerning thing to me is that Brady is developing a little bit of a history of low neutral play pass rates.
I don't agree with all that much that I hear on WGR, especially SJ, but they're noticing some things about pass rates as well:
I've been saying it for years, when you run the ball you shorten the game and and decrease your margin for error. We'll see if this is game plan specific, but but based on the Bills play down the stretch last year there are definitely things worth monitoring.
The defense sucked in the first half, but the 1st Miami game last year went TD-TD-TD-TD-TD. Our offense punched and counterpunched until the Dolphins eventually broke. I have plenty of concerns about the D, but they did firm up in the second half despite missing TJ, so they get a little bit of a pass.
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I have a couple of fun futures parlays that I do over the summer. A division winner one, an over/under wins parlay, and then a prop parlay. Nothing super crazy but if they hit it would pay nice.
Watson floundering and the Browns under wins total was my biggest bet. Fading him and the browns hard. Hope he gets BENCHED! lol
What's that smell? Smells like Jameis Winston season has come early!!
Jim Bob
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misterchainsaw
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Do you really want him to be benched if you're rolling with the Browns under? They were a playoff team with a bunch of randos not named Watson under center last year lol.
Matt Ress
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Just realized Allen made Baker clap his hands as he hurdles him. Good show of sportsmanship by Baker!
I remember a defensive player talking about Barry Sanders making him clap his hands every time he tried to tackle him & got juked out of his socks, and now it's something I always keeps an eye out for.
I remember a defensive player talking about Barry Sanders making him clap his hands every time he tried to tackle him & got juked out of his socks, and now it's something I always keeps an eye out for.
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Fezzy126 said:
If they're averaging 9 yards a pop on 1st down between the 20's their run rate SHOULD be that high until the defense does something to stop them. That's more yardage than the best passer has ever averaged over a full season, which should alleviate the "shortening the game" concern. Which leads us to....
And the reason they didn't score on the first drive was because of a pass play gone wrong.
Additionally, the Bills tearing off chunks of yardage in the running game forced the Cardinals linebackers to commit downhill to the running game, which opened up the passing game to that extent. In addition, one of these drives was in the two minute drill where of course they called 7 of 8 passing plays (not to mention constant false starts putting them in long down and distance).
Then going forward in the 2nd half the Cardinals were able to force the Bills into more passing downs by committing more resources to the run and stopping it on early downs (which, again, opened up the pass).
I find this tweet misleading at best and really quite disingenuous.
Fun fact (that to be clear is more chance than anything else, but funny to point out in the context of the argument) - the Bills punted twice in the 2nd half. Both possessions started with a called pass play. Every other possession in the 2nd half started with a run, and they scored on each one.
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misterchainsaw
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Another quick comment about Brady's tendencies - I think people are reading too much into the Dallas game last year and this game this year. Brady is more than happy to throw it if that's what the game plan calls for. The Dallas game skewed his numbers quite a bit. Here's a fuller look at the end of the regular season starting from when Brady took over.
VS NYJ: 33 passes, 38 runs, but skewed by a 20+ point 4th quarter lead. Take out the 4th quarter and it's 32 passes, 28 runs (34 v 26 called passes vs runs as 2 of 3 Allen runs were scrambles.
VS PHI: 52 passes, 40 runs. 5 Allen scrambles so 57 called passes, 35 called runs
VS KC: 45 passes, 28 runs. 4 Allen scrambles so 49 passes, 24 runs called.
VS DAL: 16 passes, 49 runs, 3 Allen scrambles so 19 to 46 called. -Interesting note here, the Bills actually should have had to punt on 2 of their first 3 possessions (roughing the kicker allowed the 3rd to continue). On those possessions, they threw on both 2nd and 3rd down despite having favorable down and distance from a strong 1st down run. Brady then went full bore on the run game and the Bills dominated Dallas' defense the rest of the way.
VS LAC: 22 passes, 30 runs. One scramble so 23 passes, 29 runs. Run heavy plan for sure here, but it was turnovers in the 2nd half that hurt them and kept this a close game.
VS NE: 31 passes, 37 runs. 2 scrambles so 33-35. Passing game was NOT effective in this one, particularly in the 1st half.
VS MIA: 41 passes, 36 runs. 4 scrambles so 45-32. Turnovers killed us in this one too.
Those were all of his regular season games. 3 games that stick out as run heavy, with in game reasons for at least two of the three.
VS NYJ: 33 passes, 38 runs, but skewed by a 20+ point 4th quarter lead. Take out the 4th quarter and it's 32 passes, 28 runs (34 v 26 called passes vs runs as 2 of 3 Allen runs were scrambles.
VS PHI: 52 passes, 40 runs. 5 Allen scrambles so 57 called passes, 35 called runs
VS KC: 45 passes, 28 runs. 4 Allen scrambles so 49 passes, 24 runs called.
VS DAL: 16 passes, 49 runs, 3 Allen scrambles so 19 to 46 called. -Interesting note here, the Bills actually should have had to punt on 2 of their first 3 possessions (roughing the kicker allowed the 3rd to continue). On those possessions, they threw on both 2nd and 3rd down despite having favorable down and distance from a strong 1st down run. Brady then went full bore on the run game and the Bills dominated Dallas' defense the rest of the way.
VS LAC: 22 passes, 30 runs. One scramble so 23 passes, 29 runs. Run heavy plan for sure here, but it was turnovers in the 2nd half that hurt them and kept this a close game.
VS NE: 31 passes, 37 runs. 2 scrambles so 33-35. Passing game was NOT effective in this one, particularly in the 1st half.
VS MIA: 41 passes, 36 runs. 4 scrambles so 45-32. Turnovers killed us in this one too.
Those were all of his regular season games. 3 games that stick out as run heavy, with in game reasons for at least two of the three.
Selanne00008
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My friend, you make a good point. Perhaps the best path for my greed would be they are stubborn and stick with their 250M dollar man and he just goes out and under performs week in and week out.
ValJamesDuex
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I really like Groot and hope it keeps on coming, pump the breaks a little though, he was up against Jonah Jennings and then a backup right tackle.
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Also: Avg passing yards per team for a NFL opening weekend was lowest since 2000. Running yards was the highest.
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per McD
Josh Cleared to play
Taron Johnson Out Thursday, further evaluation to come
Smoot Out Thursday
Josh Cleared to play
Taron Johnson Out Thursday, further evaluation to come
Smoot Out Thursday
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brian_griffin
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Well done. What's your early take on Thursday night's score? I need money to fix my truck...
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Zman5778
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I hate to be repetitive.......but I really do see this score being similar to Week 1.
34-27 Bills.........though I'd be far less surprised if the Dolphins won.
misterchainsaw
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The Bills in general have had a pretty good plan for Tua in McDonald's offense since he's gotten there. Even the one game we lost to them was that weird game where we lost a bunch of guys on offense to heat exhaustion and just couldn't finish in the red zone.
Although that has been an issue with the Bills in Miami in particular the last couple of years for all of Allen's dominance against them. Can't be turning the ball over in the red zone as much as they did last year.
Although that has been an issue with the Bills in Miami in particular the last couple of years for all of Allen's dominance against them. Can't be turning the ball over in the red zone as much as they did last year.
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I don't like to pick Bill's games, but when taking ALL emotion out of it I would take Miami at home. Your call in the end though
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Zman5778
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There. The game Thursday night is on WKBW, Channel 7 (ABC) in Buffalo
misterchainsaw
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He did so during the game and returned, so I don't think he has to again
