Buffalo Bills Week 11-- Kansas City (9-0) @ Buffalo (8-2) Sunday 11/17, 4:25 PM, CBS

TehDoak

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I’m looking for Ray Davis to be a major force on Sunday. He’ll get lots of opportunity.

They are the #3 run defense. The last 2 games vs KC, Cook was held to 32 and 61 yards.

Ray Davis is a HARD runner, the issue is for him to have a big impact, we are going to have to hold onto the ball for longer.

KC is winning games by winning the Time of possession battle and keeping drives alive.

I go back to the Miami game where they dinked and dunked down the field on us and kept the drives alive. That is what KC is doing. I mean, we have to essentially force them into 3rd and longs and take advantage of the weakness on the outside of their O-line.

They are situationally perfect in close games. Yes, occasionally that is going to lead to them being on the wrong side of a game winning field goal. Overall, it just leads other teams to beat themselves.

I honestly think we probably win on Sunday. Their defense is due for a stinker and the lack of tape on us with Cooper could cause problems for them. My big concern is no kincaid.
 

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I went with Buffalo in my pick-ems, but I think KC takes this one. I just don't foresee Buffalo's offense being consistent enough to put up 20+, and they haven't faced a defense as good as KC's. Couple that with the injuries on O (including players playing at below 100%), and I think KC wins this game. I also think Reid is going to take advantage of our defense. Lots of run plays + Mahomes taking advantage of the zone with dink and dunk throws.

But, if this squad gets a healthy Milano going into Jan, and plays KC healthy, then there's a good chance we can get revenge in Jan. Let's just hope KC is the team dealing with a wealth of injuries this time around. I still believe we win that game with a relatively healthy LB core.

Oyeee...I believe we could've gone all the way last year if not for injuries. It's my biggest 'what if' in Buffalo sports since the 06 Sabres defense got obliterated by injuries against CAR. An even bigger 'what if' than the 13 seconds debacle because I think there's a better chance we lose against CINCY than Baltimore.
 

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They are the #3 run defense. The last 2 games vs KC, Cook was held to 32 and 61 yards.

Ray Davis is a HARD runner, the issue is for him to have a big impact, we are going to have to hold onto the ball for longer.

KC is winning games by winning the Time of possession battle and keeping drives alive.

I go back to the Miami game where they dinked and dunked down the field on us and kept the drives alive. That is what KC is doing. I mean, we have to essentially force them into 3rd and longs and take advantage of the weakness on the outside of their O-line.

They are situationally perfect in close games. Yes, occasionally that is going to lead to them being on the wrong side of a game winning field goal. Overall, it just leads other teams to beat themselves.

I honestly think we probably win on Sunday. Their defense is due for a stinker and the lack of tape on us with Cooper could cause problems for them. My big concern is no kincaid.
Having Bernard back after missing the playoff game last year, along with being healthier at CB, gives me some hope that the Bills can be better on 3rd down defensively than they were last time out vs KC.

The Bills LBs and secondary was decimated by injury with Taron Johnson being the only LB or CB starter that was healthy that game.

Bernard, Milano, and Benford all missed the game. And Douglas was nowhere near 100%.
 
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ValJamesDuex

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Kincaid out per McD (taking one week at a time)

Brown, Cooper Questionable/Limited today

Kincaid another player who needs to learn how to fall better when possible, not the first time he's been banged up diving for a catch
 
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49 rushes for 266 yards and 3 TDs. Offense with no turnovers. TOP 35:05. 3 TDs on first 4 drives. Opened the second half with two scoring drives and 10 points.

Defense with 3 sacks, 7 passes defended, 7 QB hurries, and 1 interception.

Dust this game plan off for Sunday. Please.
 

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If there's ever a time for the offense to start on time, it's this one. They've started off well and early in only 1 of their games this year.

Would like to see motion and misdirection from the offense to keep KC honest in attacking the offense, since we're looking like we will be missing some weapons.
 

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49 rushes for 266 yards and 3 TDs. Offense with no turnovers. TOP 35:05. 3 TDs on first 4 drives. Opened the second half with two scoring drives and 10 points.

Defense with 3 sacks, 7 passes defended, 7 QB hurries, and 1 interception.

Dust this game plan off for Sunday. Please.
KC's run defense is orders of magnitude better than Dallas'. If we run 49 times against KC, we're not sniffing 200 yards.
 

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Having Bernard back after missing the playoff game last year, along with being healthier at CB, gives me some hope that the Bills can be better on 3rd down defensively than they were last time out vs KC.

The Bills LBs and secondary was decimated by injury with Taron Johnson being the only LB or CB starter that was healthy that game.

Bernard, Milano, and Benford all missed the game. And Douglas was nowhere near 100%.

last years playoff game doesn't really have any bearing on this year, though.

This year we've been gashed by running attacks vs Baltimore/Miami/Jets.

KC has been VERY effective versus the run this year and keeping drives alive, even though Mahommes hasn't been great. I expect them to run on us. We are very lucky they are without Pachecho, as Hunt isn't really a top tier RB anymore.


December 17, 2023

49 rushes for 266 yards and 3 TDs. Offense with no turnovers. TOP 35:05. 3 TDs on first 4 drives. Opened the second half with two scoring drives and 10 points.

Defense with 3 sacks, 7 passes defended, 7 QB hurries, and 1 interception.

Dust this game plan off for Sunday. Please.

If KC comes out in light boxes trying to defend the pass, sure. KC isn't going to do that though. Teams have had success by forcing us into 3rd and longs by stopping the run on 1st/2nd down.

We should come out with heavy play action and TE/Screen game to get Shakir, Knox, and Cook involved early.
 

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last years playoff game doesn't really have any bearing on this year, though.

This year we've been gashed by running attacks vs Baltimore/Miami/Jets.

KC has been VERY effective versus the run this year and keeping drives alive, even though Mahommes hasn't been great. I expect them to run on us. We are very lucky they are without Pachecho, as Hunt isn't really a top tier RB anymore.
KC has been #1 on 3rd down so far this season. But, they have been passing significantly more on 3rd and short than most teams. And they have been almost unstoppable with Mahomes throwing to Kelce because teams are so focused on the run.

I expect KC to keep doing that until the Bills prove that they can stop it.

And regardless of what the hype is, the Bills run D has been effective, especially on 3rd and short when they prioritize the run.

The Bills run defense is well above average in stuff rate and success rate allowed.

The biggest issue with the Bills run D this year is they have made too many RBs look like Barry Sanders where it is 9 carries of not much and then one carry for 50+ yards.

Last week was the perfect example. Taylor had 20 carries for 56 yards (2.8 yards/carry) + 1 carry for 58 yards.

Achane has 34 carries for 159 yards in the two games against Buffalo. The Bills can live with that when it means that Hill and Waddle aren't going crazy.

Breece Hall had 17 carries for 71 yards (4.2 yards/carry) + 1 carry for 42 yards. I think the Bills can live with that, too.

The Henry + Lamar duo killed them. But, they are unique and not what the Chiefs will challenge them with this week.
 
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If there's ever a time for the offense to start on time, it's this one. They've started off well and early in only 1 of their games this year.

Would like to see motion and misdirection from the offense to keep KC honest in attacking the offense, since we're looking like we will be missing some weapons.
It's at least 3, even using a pretty high standard. Jacksonville (easy), they scored 3 TD's on their 4 first half drives at the Jets, and scored 2 TD's and a FG against MIA on their first 4 drives. Unfortunately DVOA's drive stats is behind a paywall, but the average drive in 2024 so far per pro-football reference resulted in 2 points. So there's probably a couple of other games we could add in as well where we were comfortably ahead of that on our first 2-3 drives.
 
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Reading above posts We're young and may come out too hyped up as this game comes at a perfect time to play balls out , assess where everyone is not playing down to the competition for both teams.

I see amari as a great decoy and Samuel and shakir w cook having big days or at least many targets along w Knox and Morris bailing us out on key downs .

I don't think either team will be too complicated or give away stuff on film except for building a full film resume setting up for a second meeting .

if we win I see us getting home field both teams will have 8 weeks for any real injury to heal for January and an extra week for the victor


I think we see a real straight up slug fest trying to get each other to decide how bad they we want it to whichever team gets behind All vets have many targets in first half w many runs testing strength on strength like a psychotic full on preseason slug fest at least thru quarter one Every play a test and a setup for second half and second game w turnovers allowing teams to hold their bluff or show their hands


A lot of fun


AT HOME AT rich , half in Sun half in Buffalo darkness

hopefully a time to further the humble mystique of Buffalo Bills Football at home , on Sunday . Marvs always right where would you rather be. , if our yiung6guys relax and have fun playing The Levy Song of Right here Right now , we take this game If we play each play each diwn . all in together


The fans belief may decide this game like they lifted Tyler bass .. hopefully early and way more emphatic on defense and w BIG plays
like an avalanche started w the belief from the bleeds on down

we'll see what both teams want to reveal


Josh and Kermit are the class of the NFL both know the league is watching . FUN.


every KC and Buffalo coach all the way down to last man activated knows this isbthe handcuffs off game to show who everyone is Excellence to Gaffes from being on the biggest league stage silently at 430 pm in that quiet corner on NY only the faithful
 
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