Buffalo Bills Week 17: New York Jets (4-11) at Buffalo (12-3), 12/29, 1:00 PM, CBS

OkimLom

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They are frauds. More fitting? Oliver is criminally overrated. Our ends are just pass rushers who get bullied in the run.
How many runs in the league do you think are stopped entirely by the dline? And how many runs are typically stopped by dline play AND LB play where the LB shoot gaps to close off holes therefore pushing RBs into the dline men? How effective do you think a defense will be when there are only 2 LBs pursuing the run game and those two guys are below average in shedding blocks and finding said gaps to stop the run. The Dline can only do so much especially what is asked of the middle of the line.
 

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They are frauds. More fitting? Oliver is criminally overrated. Our ends are just pass rushers who get bullied in the run.
Our defensive line is bottom 10 in the league for sure ... it's one of the biggest reasons we've never gotten over the hump in the playoffs. The good teams tend to have better offensive lines and these guys shrink like daisies against a good line/good QB. Watch the Chiefs in the playoffs and their line is making things difficult every play. We get stuck with un-clutch bums like Oliver who disappears in big games consistently. Daquan was really good pre-injuries, but missed the playoff game against the Bengals with injury and was a shell of himself last year against the Chiefs. Now he looks utterly washed up and is being outplayed by rookies and practice squad guys (Carter and Ankou specifically).

This should be their priority here at the trade deadline and into the offseason. Not sure what the cost to cut/trade Oliver, but I'd seriously look into it and re-allocate those funds elsewhere. Daquan is signed through next year and his cap hit goes up. I'm no cap-ologist with the NFL but it looks like we'd have to eat a decent amount on the cap on either of these guys. Perhaps the answer is to draft a stud and let him develop, while continuing to see what you have in Carter.
 

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Odds Bills add Dline today?
I'd say it's about 50/50.
I'm not sure they do anything else. They should though. They should add a LB. Dorian Williams is
 

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Fair. But the mechanics of what the Bills are doing isn’t that hard to work against.

You add a 6th OL which creates a disadvantage. It’s not just the size, but the gap creation. Defenses treat A and B gaps differently than C gaps and outside / D gaps. The additional OL adds a 5th “big” gap that occurs at the C gap between the OT and the 6th OL.

It won’t be long before defenses counter that. If you’re in a 4-3, you add a LB, drop your strong side DE into the C gap, and play a 4-4 or hybrid 5-3. If you’re in a 3-4, you add another DT and have the same effect.

What defenses likely won’t do is throw a 300 pound lineman into the “big” C gap. Most teams don’t have that type of player regardless. So you’re dropping an end into a 5 technique to counter that, and having another edge player on his outside to account for the D gap.

Which means that the 6th OL is likely working against a DE or OLB. That’s the same players you’d want a big TE to work against.

Where defensive coordinators will have an advantage is when they do figure out how to counter Buffalo’s 6th OL. There’s no counter for Buffalo. The 6th OL is not a pass catching threat. So the solution for the defensive can stack the LOS.

My whole point is give me the 280 pound TE instead of the 6th OL. That TE would be asked to block DEs and OLBs, and would be capable of it despite being 20-30 pounds lighter. The advantage comes when some defense figures out how to stop Buffalo. The Bills have a counter move.

This is exactly why the Ravens have a personnel advantage. Their TEs and FB have near lineman size and can catch/run. There’s a dilemma there and a counter for the Ravens.
 

Jim Bob

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BUFFALO BILLS


The Bills have had their CR unis longer than any other team, playing in the first ever color rush game against the Jets back in 2015. I always thought the Bills red jerseys and pants were prime candidates to mix/match with their white and blue jerseys/pants. In fact, when Josh Allen first teased a red helmet, he was wearing the red jersey over white pants. I was also surprised the team didn’t introduce a red helmet when the one shell rule was dropped. Neither has (yet) happened, but how would the Bills look if they mixed and matched? I’m not so sure I loved the red/blue pairings, but I think they’d look great if they paired the red jersey with white pants, or the white jersey with red pants.

Should They Do It? YES!

I am not a fan of the red pants in these renderings. But, I like the idea of the red jersey and socks being mixed in with white pants.

And yes please to the red helmet.
 

Der Jaeger

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What I’d do if I were Beane:

Go all in and trade for Myles Garrett

Get a back up OT

Get a rotational DT, preferably with size.

Trade Edwards and sign Hyde.
 

Jim Bob

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3 of those moves allow the Bills to assign the player to the practice squad.
I highly doubt that Hyde signs to the PS.

And I doubt they can get PS level OT and DT that really help much, if at all.

If Grable is back before the end of the season, Vandy+Grable likely give them better depth than a PS OT will.

And I think they need to cut Logue and sign Ankou at this point. A trade for Joseph-Day wouldn't hurt, either.

 
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I don't like that Hopkins tore it up for KC. They do not need him playing like a #1. Well, actually THEY do, but the Bills certainly don't.
 
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On Bills- Chiefs Game Day:

If I was Bills Mafia, I would have a huge blowup/two made of him and get as close to the CBS truck early on in tailgating.

With a sign on it saying:
“This guy cheats on almost EVERY play!
Why do ALL NFL Refs ignore calling a Penalty?”

That way, it gets to the Announcers in a public


I copied and pasted a text on TBD from KC game thread laughing at the refs for gifting kc line movements to help their sorry asses likely because the Chiefs name like the Patriots after b.s. 911

love when truth shines thru now will someone be a prick and do it

On Bills- Chiefs Game Day:

If I was Bills Mafia, I would have a huge blowup/two made of him and get as close to the CBS truck early on in tailgating.

With a sign on it saying:
“This guy cheats on almost EVERY play!
Why do ALL NFL Refs ignore calling a Penalty?”

That way, it gets to the Announcers in a public


I copied and pasted a text on TBD from KC game thread laughing at the refs for gifting kc line movements to help their sorry asses likely because the Chiefs name like the Patriots after b.s. 911

love when truth shines thru now will someone be a prick and do it
 

Zman5778

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Major rumors out there that Saints' CB Marshon Lattimore is likely on the move today......possibly/probably for a Day 2 pick.

Commanders and Chiefs the rumored front runners.



Please lord not the Chiefs. Please no. Please please please no.
 

Selanne00008

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Major rumors out there that Saints' CB Marshon Lattimore is likely on the move today......possibly/probably for a Day 2 pick.

Commanders and Chiefs the rumored front runners.



Please lord not the Chiefs. Please no. Please please please no.

Commanders it is. Wow they are loading up.
 

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