Post-Game Talk: We have a major Oil leak now

[harpoon]

Knoblauch needs to start naming the passengers. If he’s not going to bench the slackers, he could at least give the worst habitual offenders (Henrique, RNH, Brown) a mention.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Knoblauch needs to start naming the passengers. If he’s not going to bench the slackers, he could at least give the worst habitual offenders (Henrique, RNH, Brown) a mention.

if he has not lost the dressing room already that would be the hole that would break the dam and let the water run free

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

 

[nexttothemoon]

Here's the real problems...

John Klingberg and Jeff Skinner over the past 6 games (in which they even have been benched for 1 game each in that stretch) have a combined 7 Even strength points between them. JSkinner is +1 Klingberg is +3

In that stretch...

RHN has 2 and is -1
Hyman has 2 and is -7
McDavid has 1 and is -12
Bouchard has 0 and is -6


When JSkinner and Klingberg are outscoring those 4 players at evens... you are in serious Shitcreek territory without a paddle.

Team is funking it up bigtime and needs to break out of whatever collective injury/sickness/lethargy they are going through.

They aren't shooting enough... not hitting enough... not giving a f*** enough.

Team D is cratering... team offense is cratering... goaltending is cratering.

Outshot by an average of 7.2 shots per game over that 6 game stretch. That's obviously NOT GOOD for a team with mediocre goaltending and subpar finishing ability.

All that was propping up the team all season (up until recently) was their ability to out-defend other teams and tilt the shot clock consistently so that they could win games based on that shot discrepancy. Now that that advantage has dried up... that lack of finish and lack of close to average goaltending is biting them in the ass.

I sure hope this is an "internal Oilers personnel problem" and they can rebound once injuries/sickness issues resolve themselves and that it's not a "league has figured out this team" problem... because if it's indeed the latter... team is truly hooped and there's no coming out of this funk.

 

[russ99]

Core badly needs a shakeup trade and Bowman with no attachment to the group is just the one to do it. If coaching can’t get this group going that’s the next step.

I heard in the GYB podcast when they had Jamie McLennan on that ‘Rodrigue is not an NHL goalie’. They were quite clear on that.

Yeah, “scouts” have been saying that from day one because he’s not 6’5”. But he just makes saves. I’d be willing to bet he has a good NHL career, either here or somewhere else.

 

[russ99]

Here's my thoughts on goaltending. They need an athletic goalie who can come up with some big stops in close games. Doesn't matter if the guy is prone to the odd bad goal. We already get that with Skinner, but without any of the athletic "how did he save that" kind of saves.

I was honestly kind of against Binnington when I heard that chatter, but after his performance in clutch time for Canada, previous stretches of elite play, him being an athletic goalie who can make miraculous saves, and some of his underlying metrics on high danger chances/saves off the rush. I'd definitely be on board over what we have.

I’d like an upgrade, but not a get out of jail free card where the skaters can still play this crappy individual focused game and not give a crap at the back and have the goalie bail them out.

Team needs to play like a team in all three zones or any goalie is gonna have problems, even if they have a higher skillset.

 

[Missing smitty]

Stu Skinner was def better. Had some bad bounces.

FYI better doesn't mean elite.

The 3rd goal was unacceptable and the 4th was just atrocious. He was not better. The kid sucks right now, full stop.

 

[tardigrade81]

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Trade for a f***ing goalie

I'll take a pile of garbage at this point

 

[AustinHockeyYT]

Can't tell if Draisaitl was giving it to Stu at the end of the game by the bench or if it was general frustration. The way Stu hesitated to get off the ice has me thinking something was said to him though. 13 Seconds left, Oilers get possession off the draw and race up the ice 2 on 2 and Stu just sits in his crease... like the extra attacker on the ice for 6 seconds likely wouldn't have made a difference but the absolute lack of urgency by Stu there is so frustrating, especially after giving up goals #3 and #4. The least you can do is get your a$$ to the bench.

According to Natural Stat Trick, expected goals at even strength tonight were 2.35-2.02 in favor of Florida. High danger chances were 10-8 in favor of Edmonton. Once again, the Oilers lose because they have the second best goaltender on the ice. Whatever trade deadline plans the front office had before the 4 Nations better be adjusted accordingly after this abysmal road trip.

Kris Knoblauch talked about "passengers" last night, with Janmark-Henrique-Brown going a combined -8. Seriously that line has been so bad all season I do not understand going back to it time and time again. Even in the playoffs it was a PDO heater for that trio and we knew they couldn't sustain that success.

Rough times in Oil Country right now. I try to find positives more often than not, but there's not a whole lot to feel good about right now with the team. If they were outplaying and out-chancing their opponents every night I'd be less concerned long-term... but right now every metric on the planet shows the Oilers as the 2nd best team on the ice the last 10 or so games.

 

[brentashton]

I'll take a pile of garbage at this point

Can it move laterally, left to right?

If so,
Pile ‘o garbage>> Skinner

Not sure if you listened to Skinner in the past game media avail, but I don’t know how the guy can find a helmet to fit his head. Absolutely zero recognition of where he can be better.

 

[FlameChampion]

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Gee I wonder who the passengers were that Knobby was referring too…..

He probably meant Jeff lol

 

[Uindicator]

Core badly needs a shakeup trade and Bowman with no attachment to the group is just the one to do it. If coaching can’t get this group going that’s the next step.


Yeah, “scouts” have been saying that from day one because he’s not 6’5”. But he just makes saves. I’d be willing to bet he has a good NHL career, either here or somewhere else.

This is the problem with our scouts and player development. If he’s not going to be an NhL goalie, then why the hell is he even in the organization, the main objective of the farm team is to develop NHL players , not just fill spots for a team that nobody cares about. Get a goalie and players who have the potential to be NHL players , and push players out of the main lineup if they’re shitting the bed. We literally have no one in the farm team, and Noah Phil should be on the team, Atleast he has potential and 10x more drive than the bums on the team right now

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

The main reason I was so relieved Holland was gone, was his inability and stubbornness to not aquire a real goaltender for McDavid's prime window. 39 yr old Mike Smith, KHL goalie Mikko Koskinen, and of course, this dipsht we have right now.

Literally the only goddamn thing us fans are asking of the GM, for over half a decade, is a legitimate top 15 NHL starter. Not even a Vasy, Helle, Igor, Otter or Bob. Just a certified top 15 experienced starter, to back the best 2 players in the world, in their prime.

Stan Bowman saying 'No', immediately put me on the side of the hockey fanbase that label him as a cockroach. Was willing to kind of overlook all the disgusting sht he's been a part of, as long as he does his job. And a singular task. Its kinda strange, after that interview, the Oilers are uncharacteristically getting outplayed, outshot and out everything since. Wonder if they're just like us, begging for a goalie and deflated to hear its not coming

Mark Hunter would've been fking awesome

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

The 3rd goal was unacceptable and the 4th was just atrocious. He was not better. The kid sucks right now, full stop.

If I'm not mistaken the 4th goal was a bad bounce. Sure he didn't play it great, but it wasn't atrocious?

 

[nally]

I noticed the exact same thing

Which Skinner was Drai not happy with?

 

[Ritchie Valens]

The main reason I was so relieved Holland was gone, was his inability and stubbornness to not aquire a real goaltender for McDavid's prime window. 39 yr old Mike Smith, KHL goalie Mikko Koskinen, and of course, this dipsht we have right now.

Literally the only goddamn thing us fans are asking of the GM, for over half a decade, is a legitimate top 15 NHL starter. Not even a Vasy, Helle, Igor, Otter or Bob. Just a certified top 15 experienced starter, to back the best 2 players in the world, in their prime.

Stan Bowman saying 'No', immediately put me on the side of the hockey fanbase that label him as a cockroach. Was willing to kind of overlook all the disgusting sht he's been a part of, as long as he does his job. And a singular task. Its kinda strange, after that interview, the Oilers are uncharacteristically getting outplayed, outshot and out everything since. Wonder if they're just like us, begging for a goalie and deflated to hear its not coming

Mark Hunter would've been fking awesome

He inherited him from Chiarelli, that wasn’t a Holland acquisition.

What I will shit on Holland for was there was a healthy UFA crop of goalies the offseason Smith was extended. He didn’t even try to get one of the other guys, he re-upped Smith before free agency even started.

 

[brentashton]

Which Skinner was Drai not happy with?

Stu.

Assuming because he stayed in the net after they won the D zone face off and were moving up the ice. Failed to then get extra skater on the ice in the final seconds.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

The bolded didn't seem to have a particularly great game either, according to that chart. He's been booty since coming back from the 4 Nations, and largely mediocre otherwise this season. Sure, according to his standards, but that's exactly it. He needs to be better



Ah well, Skinner isn't much of one either, but I feel like I heard Jamie McLennan has suggested that lately too

Mcdavid didn't have a great game according to the charts? I thought it was his best game in a while. He actually brought it for once.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Serious question: What the FU*K happened to Connor Brown? He was Ass last year and then kind of turned the corner towards the end of the year. We all thought it was because he was coming back from injury...

This season he has been garbage like all of last year.

 

[tardigrade81]

Can it move laterally, left to right?

If so,
Pile ‘o garbage>> Skinner

Not sure if you listened to Skinner in the past game media avail, but I don’t know how the guy can find a helmet to fit his head. Absolutely zero recognition of where he can be better.

I'll have to listen. I haven't yet. It's usually the same crap from him. Acknowledges that he needs to be better, but says he liked some things he did. And then continues to suck bad

 

[Oilslick941611]

Drai looked pissed at skinner or did I see wrong

im not one to crap on the goaltending, especially when we know what we have and complaining is a useless waste of energy....

that 4th goal though....That was the worst thing i've ever seen. Like, thats a professional goalie, that was just , wow.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Best possible outcome. Couldn't have been scripted better.

Guy walks into the slot and beats Stu clean.
McD walks in the slot and Bob stones him. Crowd cheers Bob's name.

If you seriously think management hasn't shifted gears on goaltending...you'd be a fool

 

[Soundwave]

Best possible outcome. Couldn't have been scripted better.

Guy walks into the slot and beats Stu clean.
McD walks in the slot and Bob stones him. Crowd cheers Bob's name.

If you seriously think management hasn't shifted gears on goaltending...you'd be a fool

You know too the doofus crew in management was soooooo badly hoping for a win last night with a good game from Skinner so they could huff and puff about how they beat the Stanley Cup champions and avenged the game 7 loss and all was right and good again.

I'm glad they got a giant kick in the balls instead.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Kris Knoblauch talked about "passengers" last night, with Janmark-Henrique-Brown going a combined -8. Seriously that line has been so bad all season I do not understand going back to it time and time again. Even in the playoffs it was a PDO heater for that trio and we knew they couldn't sustain that success.

I've already tore into Brown, but I do think it's fair to mention 2 of the 3 goals against they had no imapct on (scored within 5 seconds of them hitting the ice, and even the 3rd was scored without a miscue from them.

• Right off the faceoff which deflects in off Kulak,
• A weak clearing attempt by Emberson (though Janmark and Brown where part of the group who were running around for this shift)
• A horribad line chance by the top line

But yeah, I'm pretty sure Henrique and Brown could have went back to the hotel without showering. Not sure I've seen either do anywhere near enough to break a sweat post-break. Janmark's had a better effort level, but he's also fighting the puck.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Which Skinner was Drai not happy with?

The one who was happy to see players “skating with their legs.”

He probably meant Jeff lol

He hates Jeff like how Michael Scott hated Toby.