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Is KD right man for the job

  • Yes he is doing great job

    Votes: 33 21.4%

  • Meh lets wait and see

    Votes: 68 44.2%

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    Votes: 29 18.8%

  • fire this dipshit into the sun

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This is for all of the "we're worse than last year" people:

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Dead Meat said:
This is for all of the "we're worse than last year" people:

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Teams are judged on standings, standings are the real representation of improvement as it shows your improvement relative to how the entire league is improving, the Hawks didn’t improve this year. But let’s give it to you, let’s say they improved by some microscopic amount, again it goes back to standings, if you are still a bottom feeder then you needed to improve much more, also 6 points is not much, it could be a luck deviation. Win 3 more close games you would have lost last year and there is your difference. It’s not a true representation of improvement.
 
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Blackhawks said:
Teams are judged on standings, standings are the real representation of improvement as it shows your improvement relative to how the entire league is improving, the Hawks didn’t improve this year.
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it doesnt feel like much of an improvement thats for sure, but also not a bad thing, better off being terrible so they can add more to the pipeline
 
Blackhawks said:
Teams are judged on standings, standings are the real representation of improvement as it shows your improvement relative to how the entire league is improving, the Hawks didn’t improve this year.
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they've actually improved by 6 points in the standings compared to last year. you can see it in the post you are responding to.
 
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Yeah sure, we have a small improvement in the standings from last year, but this team looks the exact same. Carrying around Korchinski all of last year was a pretty big hole in the lineup and we couldn't do anything about it, but last year our vets like Foligno and Dickinson were playing much better
 
Castle8130 said:
Yeah sure, we have a small improvement in the standings from last year, but this team looks the exact same. Carrying around Korchinski all of last year was a pretty big hole in the lineup and we couldn't do anything about it, but last year our vets like Foligno and Dickinson were playing much better
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I was looking at Foligno's numbers and was surprised he has as many points as he does. I agree, he's playing worse this year relative to his expected role on the team.

Not that it should be of any surprise either, the guy is 37 years old and plays a heavy game. It would be a mistake to expect him to be productive in really any role next year at his age.
 
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Yeah sure, we have a small improvement in the standings from last year, but this team looks the exact same. Carrying around Korchinski all of last year was a pretty big hole in the lineup and we couldn't do anything about it, but last year our vets like Foligno and Dickinson were playing much better
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Here is where this team was last year on 2/6:

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Today:

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Goal differential has improved quite a bit. There is still a long way to go obviously, but to me this team is much more fun to watch than last year.
 
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Castle8130 said:
Yeah sure, we have a small improvement in the standings from last year, but this team looks the exact same. Carrying around Korchinski all of last year was a pretty big hole in the lineup and we couldn't do anything about it, but last year our vets like Foligno and Dickinson were playing much better
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You can't expect a huge improvement, by just adding a couple top 9 players and depth Dmen. Some players will regress, others will improve. They are in more games, and are competing well against top flight teams most nights. Progress 6-10pts each year and we'll be happy in 3-5 years.
 
If a good trade opportunity for Jones opens up in the offseason, probably take it. Which if happens means another tank season with ‘26 a good draft, depending on what level of good play you pull from the young guys pushing roster spots. Davidson could be a sacrificial lamb at that point but it could also be an ok thing for hawks long term. Then you bring in someone with a good feel for the pro scouting and roster construction and see how four years of a tanked up prospect pool can go from there.
 
Kevin Musto said:
Yes, but only since the coaching change.

The start of the season with LuRich was legitimately dreadful.
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Yes to more fun but LuRich is what kept them closer this year in the goal differential point, they were way closer in those games. This is from that boring style.

They had like 2 games that were 3 goal losses. The Vancouver being the only notable one. They also has 2 3 goal wins. They lost or won 2-1/ 2-3 in many of those games. Sörensens era has multiple 4 goal losses & some 1-5 loss games. They're trending worse goal differential way now.
 
Hawkaholic said:
You can't expect a huge improvement, by just adding a couple top 9 players and depth Dmen. Some players will regress, others will improve. They are in more games, and are competing well against top flight teams most nights. Progress 6-10pts each year and we'll be happy in 3-5 years.
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If it takes the Hawks 5 years to rebuild from here, they have failed the rebuild. Thats about 9 years (starting from the 2022 draft)
 
ClydeLee said:
Yes to more fun but LuRich is what kept them closer this year in the goal differential point, they were way closer in those games. This is from that boring style.

They had like 2 games that were 3 goal losses. The Vancouver being the only notable one. They also has 2 3 goal wins. They lost or won 2-1/ 2-3 in many of those games. Sörensens era has multiple 4 goal losses & some 1-5 loss games. They're trending worse goal differential way now.
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Richardson was 8-16-2 with a goal differential of -18, so -0.69 per game.
Sorenson is 8-15-4 with a goal differential of -27, so -1 per game.

Not to mention Sorenson got the benefit of some new coach energy when the firing took place.

I can't wait until we have a real coach again. The next hire needs to be someone who has proven even mediocrity at the NHL level.
 
Castle8130 said:
If it takes the Hawks 5 years to rebuild from here, they have failed the rebuild. Thats about 9 years (starting from the 2022 draft)
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Disagree, It takes a while for prospects to pan out, especially Dmen, where most of our draft capital is tied up in. If we are a good contender in 5 years, its a success. When you start from nothing, it takes longer than 5-7 years to build it up again. More like 7-9 years. This isn't football.
 
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Disagree, It takes a while for prospects to pan out, especially Dmen, where most of our draft capital is tied up in. If we are a good contender in 5 years, its a success. When you start from nothing, it takes longer than 5-7 years to build it up again. More like 7-9 years. This isn't football.
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9 years is insane! Even when you end the rebuild, you never know how big your window is. That's crazy to accept a 9 year rebuild as a realistic plan. That's a Buffalo Sabres/Coyotes level of bad
 
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If it takes the Hawks 5 years to rebuild from here, they have failed the rebuild. Thats about 9 years (starting from the 2022 draft)
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Just curious, if the Hawks continue to be struggling the next few years, but then in 4 or 5 years have made a huge jump and go to be a dominant force for the next 8 or 9 years (basically covering ages 25-34 from the Nazar, Korchisnki, Rinzel draft class, plus younger for the subsequent ones), will the rebuild have failed because it didn't hit an arbitrary timeframe to get good? More a philosophical question I guess
 
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