We have a GM problem

Is KD right man for the job

  • Yes he is doing great job

    Votes: 29 22.8%
  • Meh lets wait and see

    Votes: 60 47.2%
  • I am starting to be alarmed

    Votes: 26 20.5%
  • fire this dipshit into the sun

    Votes: 12 9.4%

  • Total voters
    127

ploppsdman

Don't stand for the Hawks. Stand for Kyle Beech.
Feb 5, 2004
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Regarding culture - Chicago is the worst team and the locker room is apparently lost & confused.

Regarding Kaliyev, the chance he becomes a "guy" is TINY, but he's got talent. Who cares if it results in Smith or Maroon waived - we know what we have with those guys - NOTHING. Regarding their great contribution to team "culture" see above.

I'll take a 5% chance in Kaliyev working out vs 0% chance with half this roster.

All Davidson has shown is the aptitude to light things on fire. Any one of us could have lucked into drafting Bedard and gotten a top prospect at #2.

He's done nothing but acquire draft picks and then give them away, overpay for inconsistent players, and non-tender actual NHLers (like Washington's current leading scorer).

Don't patronize me with this "we're in a rebuild" nonsense. Rebuilding means actual building - see the sharks. Chicago is currently on fire - theyre not building anything but more ash.
 
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BobbyJet

The accountability era?
Oct 27, 2010
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Regarding culture - Chicago is the worst team and the locker room is apparently lost & confused.

Regarding Kaliyev, the chance he becomes a "guy" is TINY, but he's got talent. Who cares if it results in Smith or Maroon waived - we know what we have with those guys - NOTHING. Regarding their great contribution to team "culture" see above.

I'll take a 5% chance in Kaliyev working out vs 0% chance with half this roster.

All Davidson has shown is the aptitude to light things on fire. Any one of us could have lucked into drafting Bedard and gotten a top prospect at #2.

He's done nothing but acquire draft picks and then give them away, overpay for inconsistent players, and non-tender actual NHLers (like Washington's current leading scorer).

Don't patronize me with this "we're in a rebuild" nonsense. Rebuilding means actual building - see the sharks. Chicago is currently on fire - theyre not building anything but more ash.
In other words, you're philosophy of rebuilding is showing no patience at all. Look around the league and count how many teams have succeeded trying to rebuild on the fly as quickly as possible.

The veterans that KD brought in are merely fill-ins (I didn't like a few of them but hopefully are role models for the kids, nothing more). Those spots will open up for prospects when they are ready. The jury is still out on KD but your assessment is premature, IMO.
 
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ploppsdman

Don't stand for the Hawks. Stand for Kyle Beech.
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One last thing: Davidson made MANY choices with the intention to be competitive this year, right?

How's that working out?

Does he get any criticism for that or can he hide under the rebuilding skirt?
 

BobbyJet

The accountability era?
Oct 27, 2010
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One last thing: Davidson made MANY choices with the intention to be competitive this year, right?

How's that working out?

Does he get any criticism for that or can he hide under the rebuilding skirt?
Define "competitive". KD has been cautious and as I said the acquired vets were fill-ins until the young players are ready. Most aren't even available yet and those few who are (or were) in RFD need not be rushed.
 

WarriorofTime

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One last thing: Davidson made MANY choices with the intention to be competitive this year, right?

How's that working out?

Does he get any criticism for that or can he hide under the rebuilding skirt?
Signed two middle class players to middle value/middle term contracts, signed two 4th liners for 2 year deals, signed a 6/7 defenseman to a 2 year deal, signed a 1B goalie that hasn't played all season to a 2 year deal, signed a 4/5 old defenseman to a 1 year deal.

This ain't exactly "all in".
 

Clownish

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Forget Kaliyev, you all are telling me there's no room for Kappo Kakko, Tolvanen, or Jake Walman? Why is Dickinson (and I guess Lafferty) the only comparable acquisition(s) to this point? Kurashev and Reichel would clear waivers and a bit of time in Rockford yet again for them would be fine with me. If some team did claim them, who cares? They shouldn't re-sign Kurashev and Reichel should've shown more by now. They don't need to claim everyone with a pulse who goes on waivers or is traded for bags of pucks, but to say no to all of them is accepting the team's current standing and giving a thumbs up to losing. Why should the current team give more than half effort at any time when there's no one behind them playing harder?
 
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WarriorofTime

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Regarding Kaliyev, the chance he becomes a "guy" is TINY, but he's got talent. Who cares if it results in Smith or Maroon waived - we know what we have with those guys - NOTHING. Regarding their great contribution to team "culture" see above.

I'll take a 5% chance in Kaliyev working out vs 0% chance with half this roster.
So what, leave 5 roster spots open in the offseason to pick up some recent waiver-eligible 23/24 year old "bonus prospects" just incase all they need is a change of scenery because they're "zero risk, lottory tickets"...

Uh interesting strategy I suppose, but if your goal is to NOT be a bottom feeder probably not fruitful for that purpose.
 

Northernhawk

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Forget Kaliyev, you all are telling me there's no room for Kappo Kakko, Tolvanen, or Jake Walman? Why is Dickinson (and I guess Lafferty) the only comparable acquisition(s) to this point? Kurashev and Reichel would clear waivers and a bit of time in Rockford yet again for them would be fine with me. If some team did claim them, who cares? They shouldn't re-sign Kurashev and Reichel should've shown more by now. They don't need to claim everyone with a pulse who goes on waivers or is traded for bags of pucks, but to say no to all of them is accepting the team's current standing and giving a thumbs up to losing. Why should the current team give more than half effort at any time when there's no one behind them playing harder?
Neither Kurashev or Reichel would clear waivers…that being said…Davidson has waived qualifying rights on quite a few players during his tenure as GM…
 

Clownish

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Neither Kurashev or Reichel would clear waivers…that being said…Davidson has waived qualifying rights on quite a few players during his tenure as GM…
Why worry about losing Kurashev when he shouldn't be offered another contract this offseason? I'd take Kakko or a few months' look at Kaliyev over him. The only possible excuse stinks--they don't want to pay the $50k waiver wire acquisition fee so the minor costs are out of the question at this moment. Bah Gawd! that's Dollar Bill's music!
 
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Hawkaholic

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One last thing: Davidson made MANY choices with the intention to be competitive this year, right?

How's that working out?

Does he get any criticism for that or can he hide under the rebuilding skirt?
Competitive? lol Anyone thinking this team would be competitive is dreaming. He brought in players so they wouldn't be walked all over during the season, like last year. And plenty of people have criticized him on a couple of his choices.
 

Blackhawkswincup

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Jun 24, 2007
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He brought in players so they wouldn't be walked all over during the season, like last year.

And how is that working out?

And if we are rebuilding then play Reichel in top 6 role to finish out year and decide if he has it or not to be part of team going forward

Being a 4th line C or healthy scratch does jack shit

Why was Joey Anderson and other bums getting top line minutes but Reichel cant get off the f***ing 4th line for more than a couple shifts at best?
 

Hawkaholic

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And how is that working out?

And if we are rebuilding then play Reichel in top 6 role to finish out year and decide if he has it or not to be part of team going forward

Being a 4th line C or healthy scratch does jack shit

Why was Joey Anderson and other bums getting top line minutes but Reichel cant get off the f***ing 4th line for more than a couple shifts at best?
I mean, it's going about as expected. He brought in players that don't really make a difference, they looked like the worst team in the league on paper, and that's what they are. But they haven't been getting destroyed like they were last year.
 
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Crow

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The goalie wins stopped and now the team gets caved in more often than not.
Yeah you make a good point. While they have made improvements to the roster both on defense and at forward, Mrazek has been much worse than last year. Soda has been better but he gets a much smaller portion of the games. Also he got lit up twice lately so people’s recency bias is definitely showing itself right now.
 

WarriorofTime

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The Hawks need to stop finishing in the bottom of the standings and they also need to play the kids even if they are terrible regardless of whether they're ready for that role, and they also need to pick up every 23 year old that's getting outcast even if they suck and give them 25 games on the top line, because they're a free asset, and they need to not play too defensively so they can score more goals, and they need to not get dominated every game.

...Fundamentally, it's just a bad team that needs another high draft pick. You can't do all those things at once.
 

GIADF

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There weren't many competitive games last year. There have been many 1 goal games this year. They are on pace for a -70 goal differential vs. -111 last year.

Yeah, let's see how that number plays out at the end of the season. Goalies are both regressing and we will lose a few bodies at the TDL with no replacements.

They'll be closer to -111 than -70 when it's all said and done, I'd bet.
 
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Hawkaholic

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Our team sv% 5 on 5 is actually worse this year, than last, by almost a full % point. (90.77% last year vs. 89.8% this year.) But almost every other advanced stat (CF%, FF%, SF%, xGF% HDCF%) has improved from last year.

Yeah, let's see how that number plays out at the end of the season. Goalies are both regressing and we will lose a few bodies at the TDL with no replacements.

They'll be closer to -111 than -70 when it's all said and done, I'd bet.
Goalies are up and down, and they aren't going to lose any consequential players, I'd bet. But yes, if Sorenson continues a run and gun style of play, they will definitely lose by bigger margins than they have to date. But implementing a new system half way through a year is never good, so it will be hard to compare.
 

BHFAN92

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It's not about Kaliyav - it's our frustration about being stuck as a bottom feeder and having a GM that's shown no ability to fix that.
this 100% this.. we have a roster of bums. The point of a real GM who is rebuilding is too identify young talent and when someone comes along you shouldn't just pass on them because the roster is clogged with wait for it "bums".We already know Kurashev and Reichel are not the guys so why not roll dice on someone else like Kaliyev who might just need a change of scenery. Its constantly like KD thinks he is the smartest guy in room complex.
 

Dead Meat

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And how is that working out?

Where did you predict that the Hawks would rank in the division before game 1 of the season? What about draft position?

Before the season started I was salivating at the thought of another top 5 pick.

this 100% this.. we have a roster of bums. The point of a real GM who is rebuilding is too identify young talent and when someone comes along you shouldn't just pass on them because the roster is clogged with wait for it "bums".We already know Kurashev and Reichel are not the guys so why not roll dice on someone else like Kaliyev who might just need a change of scenery. Its constantly like KD thinks he is the smartest guy in room complex.
Who goes to make room?
 

GIADF

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Goalies are up and down, and they aren't going to lose any consequential players, I'd bet. But yes, if Sorenson continues a run and gun style of play, they will definitely lose by bigger margins than they have to date. But implementing a new system half way through a year is never good, so it will be hard to compare.

We will see with the goalies, but I think we have likely already seen their best performance that we will get out of them this year.

Donato, Murphy, Hall, Smith, and maybe even Mrazek could all be dealt. Any replacement we put in the lineup in their place will be a worse player. It's going to be someone like Joey Anderson or Guttman called up for them. They're not NHL quality players.
 

BHFAN92

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Where did you predict that the Hawks would rank in the division before game 1 of the season? What about draft position?

Before the season started I was salivating at the thought of another top 5 pick.


Who goes to make room?
off top of my head Kurashev 1st then Reichel 2nd and Maroon on waivers 3rd
 

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