GDT: We’re not in Dallas anymore CAR@DAL

[Canes]

Waddell said the same thing.

My bad it must have been muffled under his turtleneck.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

i was trying to find the original trocheck to carolina trade thread, and i found this instead:

Value of: - V. Trocheck to Carolina

lol

Lol, life works itself out in mysterious ways. Since that thread the Canes have had their cake and eaten it too. Slavin has taken even another step as an elite #1D, Aho proved himself as a #1C and we acquired Trocheck who is playing extremely well without giving up really anything... Feel kinda bad for Panthers fans

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Ned has been a Star at every level he's played in his Career

Why does he have a Canes playoffs shirt?

 

[A Star is Burns]

Why does he have a Canes playoffs shirt?

I mean, he was in the bubble with the team, right?

 

[Wolfpuck]

Why does he have a Canes playoffs shirt?

Because that’s where we live now.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Why does he have a Canes playoffs shirt?

Great Expectations?

 

[A Star is Burns]

Dress for the job you want and all that.

 

[Svechhammer]

i was trying to find the original trocheck to carolina trade thread, and i found this instead:

Value of: - V. Trocheck to Carolina

lol

oof

those responses have to be a painful read given what we ended up getting him for. Literally everyone mentioned as trade pieces are currently on the Canes. From saying it would be too painful for us to even consider to only taking perpetually scratched Haula, 4th line Wallmark, Luostrainen, and Priskie?

oof

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

TBF, Florida is the team that paid Vegas a 30 goal scorer in the expansion draft to take another good player that Vegas would have taken anyway. Their management is not the brightest.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Cancel this guy’s contract and hire him as a coach.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Trocheck was coming off a 75 point season and had 4 years left at a sub $5 mil cap hit. We would have valued him extremely highly too. If the HF archives hadn’t been nuked, there would be some real doozies in hindsight involving Faulk circa 2015/2016. Incorrectly assuming that a player will meet a certain level of play consistently happens.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

NED WINS, SICK PASSES ON GOALS, TEUVO AND MARTY LOSE THEIR MONKEYS... ANYTHING ELSE I MISSED?

 

[The S5]

Wow, if Ned can play like that consistently, it would be like hitting the lottery. His ability to play the puck adds a dimension most goalies don't have. Expect an occasional, WTF!, but the good will far outweigh the bad.

 

[VibesAlive]

Nice to win with just about anyone in the lineup on any given night.

Going back to earlier in the game, did I actually hear Mike get snippy with Tripp?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Aho should have taken the shot on the empty net or just held on to the puck for sure, but that play Heisksnen made to brake it up and transition was out of this f***ing world.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Aho should have taken the shot on the empty net or just held on to the puck for sure, but that play Heisksnen made to brake it up and transition was out of this f***ing world.

It was a great read and a great play but it was an equally terrible decision by Aho. Trying to be too smart for his own good. 9/10 times I’m sure he scores by just driving the net or flipping it in.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Aho should have taken the shot on the empty net or just held on to the puck for sure, but that play Heisksnen made to brake it up and transition was out of this f***ing world.

Yeah that’s a classic “judging the result” kind of play.

9 times out of 10 that pass gets through and TT finishes into the empty net.

THEN 8 times out of 10 the resulting odd man break doesn’t result in a goal the way it did.

End of the day we’re pissed because of the result. Only reason Stefan’s empty net flub is memorable is because of how Hemsky scored right after (not that this is remotely the same level of gaffe). Glad we got the win.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Yeah that’s a classic “judging the result” kind of play.

9 times out of 10 that pass gets through and TT finishes into the empty net.

THEN 8 times out of 10 the resulting odd man break doesn’t result in a goal the way it did.

End of the day we’re pissed because of the result. Only reason Stefan’s empty net flub is memorable is because of how Hemsky scored right after (not that this is remotely the same level of gaffe). Glad we got the win.

LET'S JUDGE THE RESULT.

IF WE WIN EVERYTHING, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OPPOSITION GETTING OTL.

 

[Svechhammer]

Yeah that’s a classic “judging the result” kind of play.

9 times out of 10 that pass gets through and TT finishes into the empty net.

THEN 8 times out of 10 the resulting odd man break doesn’t result in a goal the way it did.

End of the day we’re pissed because of the result. Only reason Stefan’s empty net flub is memorable is because of how Hemsky scored right after (not that this is remotely the same level of gaffe). Glad we got the win.

But Aho made the critical sin of putting the puck in prime position for an odd man break the other way. If he just threw the puck at net even if he missed it would have taken time to collect, which would have given him and Turbo time to get back on defense which would have only eaten up more time.

I say even if that play worked, it was a bad decision. You don't play the puck into that position when you are nursing a 1 goal lead with less than a minute to go. It's good we won in the end, but that was a bad play from a guy who should know better, and likely won't do again.

 

[geehaad]

Wow, if Ned can play like that consistently, it would be like hitting the lottery. His ability to play the puck adds a dimension most goalies don't have. Expect an occasional, WTF!, but the good will far outweigh the bad.

I got an LOL out of some comment earlier in this thread that said something to the effect of "if he can clean up his playing of the puck"...as if it's not already super impressive and in wont of something. Good lord.

that’s a classic “judging the result” kind of play.

This is where I landed after being super pissed about it for the entire commercial break. Heiskanen's play was equal parts dumb luck and good defense, and sure, Aho could've taken a shot and if he missed TT could've possibly cleaned it up. But maybe Aho's been thinking about his friend TT lately...helping him get his season revived...maybe in the back of his mind he's thinking that TT getting an empty netter would be a strong positive. As you say, the higher degree of probability is that TT scores, it's game over, and TT has a breakthrough game.

 

[Lempo]

Yeah that’s a classic “judging the result” kind of play.

9 times out of 10 that pass gets through and TT finishes into the empty net.

THEN 8 times out of 10 the resulting odd man break doesn’t result in a goal the way it did.

End of the day we’re pissed because of the result. Only reason Stefan’s empty net flub is memorable is because of how Hemsky scored right after (not that this is remotely the same level of gaffe). Glad we got the win.

I'm bit hazy on the math because I haven't been doing math lately... does this mean that the Dallas goal happens only 1/10 * 2/10, so 2 times out of 100?

 

[Wolfpuck]

I'm bit hazy on the math because I haven't been doing math lately... does this mean that the Dallas goal happens only 1/10 * 2/10, so 2 times out of 100?

Math is stupid.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Nah, it was a dumb decision no matter how you paint it. A one-goal game like that? Get the puck deep or attempt to seal it yourself.

A spinning blind pass? Waaaayyy down the list of acceptable choices to make in that situation.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I got an LOL out of some comment earlier in this thread that said something to the effect of "if he can clean up his playing of the puck"...as if it's not already super impressive and in wont of something. Good lord.


This is where I landed after being super pissed about it for the entire commercial break. Heiskanen's play was equal parts dumb luck and good defense, and sure, Aho could've taken a shot and if he missed TT could've possibly cleaned it up. But maybe Aho's been thinking about his friend TT lately...helping him get his season revived...maybe in the back of his mind he's thinking that TT getting an empty netter would be a strong positive. As you say, the higher degree of probability is that TT scores, it's game over, and TT has a breakthrough game.

That was me and I stand by it. At one point I'd counted 2 plays where he got it to our guys and 6 or 7 that ended up with Dallas. He absolutely needs to clean that up. Of course he can make impressive plays but as I said, I think he's used to getting away with some things at lower levels he won't in the NHL. I don't think he's awful at it. He's obviously good at it. I think he needs to learn to make better decisions with it at the NHL level like other prospects at forward and D need to do the same when they come up to this level. There were at least two of those instances Dallas got it where it looked like a Cane was coming to collect it with no pressure for a likely easy clear or rush up the ice and he put it in a position where a Dallas player could get it.

 

[geehaad]

I'd counted 2 plays where he got it to our guys and 6 or 7 that ended up with Dallas.

Do this same count for the number of times Dougie Hamilton collects the puck behind his goal with a forecheck bearing down on him and tell me how many times the opposition ends up with the puck. Just because you possess the puck behind the goal, it doesn't raise to expectation that it will be furthered to a teammate and the puck will exit the zone. How many times do we see the puck get rimmed around to the halfwall, where the opposing team's defenseman collects it and retains zone pressure?