Post-Game Talk: WCSF GM7 | Canucks lose to Oilers | 2-3 (Garland & Hronek) | Season Over

[sting101]

Miller was terrible tonight. Very disappointing. I'm fairly certain he's injured though.

Really? Was certainly out of gas at the end after almost 28minutes but geesh neutralized McDavid and ran a 83% corsi. Mostly he was just surrounded with ineptitude without Boeser.

 

[biturbo19]

Miller was terrible tonight. Very disappointing. I'm fairly certain he's injured though.

I don't think he was terrible... but he wasn't great either. Part of that is just...he had useless wingers. It's clearly an issue with this team. Wingers do still matter.

Fortunately...that devaluation should help make something work to get him and Pete better wingers next time. Hopefully.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I don't even know what Mikheyev actually does.

Like lets take a large sample size of his last 60 games. I feel that is a very generous amount of games for a guy making 4.75m

Can anyone name a single big offensive play he was a part of in those 60 games? I ask that with all seriousness.

He cashes paycheques and must have compromising photos of Tocchet.

Because he’s at best a 4th liner but in actuality someone who shouldn’t be on the team.

 

[aquaweenie]

Curious what Peteys weight is right now. Couldn’t be more than 180

 

[Chaos Giraffe]

He cashes paycheques and must have compromising photos of Tocchet.

Because he’s at best a 4th liner but in actuality someone who shouldn’t be on the team.

I was honestly hoping the coaching staff was going to roll the dice and just throw Lekkerimaki into game 7. At least he's an unknown and might do something.

With Mikheyev you already know what he'll do. Absolutely nothing.

 

[mriswith]

You can definitely move Mikheyev...the question is really just, how much would it cost you, and how does that balance against what a healthy Mikheyev offers?

We have to lose at least one important piece no matter what even if we dump Mik. Keeping him means losing at least two important pieces instead of just one, so one of Lindholm/Joshua/Zad walks when we could have kept them if we don't dump Mik.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I was honestly hoping the coaching staff was going to roll the dice and just throw Lekkerimaki into game 7. At least he's an unknown and might do something.

With Mikheyev you already know what he'll do. Absolutely nothing.

Mik
Heyev
What is he good for?
Absolutely nothing

Needs to be played on the radio

 

[biturbo19]

We have to lose at least one important piece no matter what even if we dump Mik. Keeping him means losing at least two important pieces instead of just one, so one of Lindholm/Joshua/Zad walks when we could have kept them if we don't dump Mik.

It's really not great.


Weird idea that springs to mind is...Penguin have a big physical LHD they regret with the same salary as Mikky who...Dubas probably likes.

 

[arttk]

Really? Was certainly out of gas at the end after almost 28minutes but geesh neutralized McDavid and ran a 83% corsi. Mostly he was just surrounded with ineptitude without Boeser.

He was mishandling the puck and making soft passes and wasn’t winning the board battles during the 4min PP. Our entry was bad but he was one of the main reason we couldn’t setup at all.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Mikheyev had the game on his stick tonight and fumbled it. That goal would have blown the roof off. Absolutely horrendous season, he should be out of the NHL.

Crazy how bad his hands are the past 61 games.

He is known for shit finishing yet the two years before this he had 36 goals in 107 games. He started the year with 10 goals in 29 games. That's 46 goals in 136 games which is 25 goal pace. Respectable top 6 numbers. Last 61 games were just a complete nightmare and it's hard to fathom his play tanked so hard. Going from a guy who can score at a 25 goal clip to a guy who scores at a Dana Murzyn clip is just bizarre. He's not a 25 goal guy but surely the guy is capable of popping 15 goals. How he turned into such a pumpkin doesn't make sense.

 

[Huggy43]

Oilers are frauds.
Soft as their fanbase.

 

[arttk]

We have to lose at least one important piece no matter what even if we dump Mik. Keeping him means losing at least two important pieces instead of just one, so one of Lindholm/Joshua/Zad walks when we could have kept them if we don't dump Mik.

I think in terms of impact you let Joshua walk and use that 3-4M somewhere else. Zad you let him walk if he wants anything more than 4.5.

 

[sting101]

I don't think he was terrible... but he wasn't great either. Part of that is just...he had useless wingers. It's clearly an issue with this team. Wingers do still matter.

Fortunately...that devaluation should help make something work to get him and Pete better wingers next time. Hopefully.

He was getting insanely frustrated. Hughes had his worst game Mikhayev flubbed a bunch of chances. Nobody could skate the puck in on the PP with enough speed to help them get set up.

The Hronek experiment was a disaster and no Boeser put a dagger into him....too much incompetence

 

[Szechwan]

Every time Mik got a high danger chance these playoffs I kept thinking "law of averages, one will go in eventually even if it's accidental"

And then he obviously wouldn't score and I'd feel dumb for even thinking it was possible. Guy is a purebred crest assassin.

 

[The Great Weal]

Definitely stings but I can't help but appreciate this gutsy run by the Canucks as a Habs fan. All the comeback, late minute goals, adversity with the goalies+Boeser injury, a suspension, and stepping up from unsung heroes. It was definitely a fun and memorable playoff run. Cheers!

 

[DFAC]

We DON'T have much talent, this is an incomplete roster and it showed, but damn if we don't have some of the intangibles that it takes to actually win. If we had a bit more scoring depth on the wings especially I think we'd be able to start showing some swagger, but lol at PDG, Suter, Mikheyev etc in our top 6.

Honestly the PP killed us today. Score 1 on the double minor and its a totally different game.

PP not only didn't score - it killed any momentum we had. Tocchet didn't make the adjustments needed on the PP (Putting Hronek on PP1 wasnt the move)

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

damn quinn looks like he walked down the wrong alley and was beaten up by five guys with two by fours

 

[Bleach Clean]

Typically less talented teams have to play with better structure and more effort than more talented teams to make up for that discrepancy.

This isn't new.

And teams with limited talent have limited potential, and we reached ours.

It just is what it is. No other style was going to magically make this roster into a true contender.

Another style could have beat the Oilers for sure. There is a threshold to sitting back where the returns do not outweigh the costs. There has to be at least some focus on offense.

Defending as a primary focus is one thing, turtling toward record low shot totals is quite another.

 

[NoShowWilly]

Sucks how many guys are ufas. Going to be big changes in the offseason. With that i need to shut my brain off and go to sleep. It has been fun guys. Truly.

 

[EpochLink]

damn quinn looks like he walked down the wrong alley and was beaten up by five guys with two by fours

Hughes looks like hell, get em next year my dude.

 

[biturbo19]

He was getting insanely frustrated. Hughes had his worst game Mikhayev flubbed a bunch of chances. Nobody could skate the puck in on the PP with enough speed to help them get set up.

The Hronek experiment was a disaster and no Boeser was put a dagger into him....too much incompetence

Yeah. He started delving into "frustrated bozo" territory tonight. Which isn't good. That's bad Bozo.


He still wasn't terrible at all. But the frustration was clearly setting in. And that's always the thing with Miller...you have to manage that. RikTok has really walked the line for the most part and gotten more out of him than i think any of us expected or thought was possible. But when he tips over that line...he's a little bit of a...well...Bozo.

 

[platotld]

Great seaon, all yall need to stewp back and enoy what we had for something we didn't think we could taste. My team, my town, my people it's all good.

Till next year eh. Oh and yall can roast me, go Canada next round.

 

[Tinhorn1]

Hughes and Pettersson learned some valuable lessons from these playoffs, where they were mostly far below where they needed to be.

As the old saying goes, your best players have to be your best players. And that simply wasn't the case for the Canucks in this series.

It's clear that the Canucks need a dramatic upgrade in bottom half of their forward group. They need more size, more youth and more production. But above all else, they have to address the overall issue with team speed.

To me it's the top half that's the issue. One top-six winger (Boeser) is not gonna cut it.

 

[arttk]

Yeah. He started delving into "frustrated bozo" territory tonight. Which isn't good. That's bad Bozo.


He still wasn't terrible at all. But the frustration was clearly setting in. And that's always the thing with Miller...you have to manage that. RikTok has really walked the line for the most part and gotten more out of him than i think any of us expected or thought was possible. But when he tips over that line...he's a little bit of a...well...Bozo.

Probably injuries

 

[DFAC]

Cheers to everyone on here - thanks for laughs and great discussions.

What a season.