GDT: WCSF GM07 | Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers | Mon. May 20th | 6pm PST | SNP/CBC | Just Win, Baby

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SeawaterOnIce

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Watched the old CanucksHD highlight package of Game 7 between Vancouver and Chicago. Jeez, that’s a contender for the greatest game ever played on Vancouver ice.

We made it to Game 7 of the SCF while losing a top 6 winger (Samuelsson), our #1 D (Hamhuis) and Selke quality #2C (Kesler).

I will always use injuries as a valid excuse as to why that team didn't win it all.
 

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I found my old hype post from game day of Game 7 in 2011 vs. Chicago. :laugh: Not quite the same storylines heading into this one, but there’s some similarities to be had (warning, I went on a rant)

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A disclaimer - I am doing my best to ensure that I do not have a tinfoil hat atop my head whilst I write this.

There seems to be a growing movement in the hockey world. Perhaps you've noticed it. Maybe you've heard whispers amongst fans, maybe you have friends talking about it on Facebook. Or maybe you've just watched the panels of experts talking on CBC, TSN or Sportsnet and have just paused for a moment to reflect on what they are really saying.

What I am talking about is the widespread hatred--not disdain or dislike, hatred--of all things Vancouver Canuck.

It would seem from all appearances that 29 other teams and their respective fanbases are all chomping at the bit for the Vancouver Canucks to fall flat tomorrow and bow out to the Chicago Blackhawks for the third consecutive year. It would seem that this feat would supplant the joy of their team winning a Stanley Cup. I have seen many comments from fans of other teams stating something along the lines of how they would be happy to never win another Cup, so long as Vancouver never won.

Next you look at the media. Since the Chicago Blackhawks have started their comeback in this series, and even before, members of the media from all stripes have been lining up to crucify the Canucks for stepping so much as one toe out of line. Let us first observe CBC's Ron McLean, he of the noted character assassination of Alexandre Burrows the year before last. At every single opportunity he has been lambasting the Canuck players, noteably Raffi Torres, for their play. Accusing them of cheap shots, highlighting instances where a Canuck player has slashed a Blackhawk player and looking down on that Canuck with disdain. How dare a Canuck player slash a Blackhawk! Nevermind that a Blackhawk player did the exact same thing to a Canuck player several times over the course of the game. It is never mentioned. It is not a "fair and balanced" opinion. It is simply highlighting the negatives of all things Canuck. Russell Peters once said that the media has a very deceptive way of planting an image in our head. "They'll show an Asian person, and a car crash. 'Whaddya think?'"

So Ron McLean shows a Canuck player, and a Canuck player committing an infraction. "Whaddya think?"

McLean is certainly not alone, he is just one example of many. Fluff pieces are being run almost daily on the incredible feat the Blackhawks are on the precipice of achieving, and apparently, how noble their cause is. Duncan Keith hung the jersey of Blackhawks teammate Brent Seabrook in his stall when Seabrook was out of the lineup. Gosh, how noble. Keith was even praised for going running at Raffi Torres the next game--a play where he charged Torres(penalty), then threw an elbow at him(penalty), before slew footing Jannik Hansen in front of the net(penalty). The media's response to this instance where a player absolutely lost his cool and started attacking anyone within reach?

Praise. Inspiring. Clutch performance.

Mike Gillis went before the press today to talk about what he perceived to be an unbalanced playing field in the series. The numbers he went through certainly give you pause to think. The Blackhawks have had a stunning advantage in terms of the number of power play opportunities versus the Canucks. The Blackhawks hold a whopping 27-16 edge in terms of power plays awarded. More telling than that, when the series is close (i.e. - when the game is seperated by 1 or 2 goals) the Blackhawks have received all of the power plays. 100% of them. Not one to the Canucks in a close game.

Also consider that after Game 2, perhaps the last relatively balanced game in terms of officiating, the Blackhawks sent well respected scholar of the game Scotty Bowman to "discuss" the calling of the series to that point. The result? A dramatic slide in favour of the Blackhawks as far as opportunities with the man advantage went.

So Mike Gillis points this all out. What is the media's response? That this is a typical GM tactic to take pressure off of his players. That this is Mike Gillis trying to cover his rear in the event that the Canucks complete one of the biggest chokes in the history of the NHL. Nary a one has stopped to say "hang on, maybe he's onto something".

Now how does all of this impact the Canucks?

I am simply a fan of the game. I never played a lick of professional hockey in my life. I was a house player when I played minor league hockey, and I am a beer league player now. Any one on the Canucks, in the NHL, or the AHL, or the ECHL, or the Junior A leagues, the Junior B leagues, the Senior AAA or AA leagues, heck most of my beer league teammates...any of these people could probably take me to school on how to get yourself motivated for an important game.

But if I can stand on a soap box for a moment, I have absolutely no idea how anyone wearing blue and white tomorrow could hit the ice at Rogers Arena and play anything short of the greatest game of their lives.

Everyone in the world seems to be against them. The media, the fanbases, the league itself. The Blackhawks have already made them a laughing stock two years in a row, and are on the verge of making it a trifecta. Not only have the Blackhawks eliminated the Canucks twice in a row, but they have done it in the most humiliating and degrading fashion possible. Blowouts, every time. On their ice and ours. They have reduced our all-world, Olympic Gold Medal winning goaltender to a punchline. "7uongo" is a beloved catch phrase on the internet.

This is their moment. This is the moment that every single player, coach and individual involved with the Canucks needs to stand up and show that they are champions. Not in the literal sense, but they need to show to themselves that they have the pride, the skill and above all, the will to win. They need to go out there and play like their very lives depend on it. They need to walk the walk.

I would be at an absolute loss for words if in front of the greatest adversity any of these players has ever faced, they came out and played with anything less than the greatest effort they have ever shown.

They need this. As Canuck fans, we desperately need this. This team has existed for 40 years and has never won a thing. Not the draft lottery that let us watch the great Gilbert Perreault skate off to our expansion cousin Buffalo, not in the two times the Canucks made it to the Stanley Cup Finals, not a thing. Until this year. This was the first year that something wasn't just hoped for, it was almost expected. We have all-world players at every position. This is a team that can win. This is a team that has players who have won. Daniel and Henrik Sedin have an Olympic Gold Medal each to go along with their matching Art Ross Trophies; so does Roberto Luongo. Mikael Samuelsson has an Olympic Gold and a Stanley Cup. Ryan Kesler won a World Junior Gold and has twice been a Selke Trophy finalist.

The Canucks have players who can win. The Canucks have players who can play big.

So for the love of all things holy, Vancouver. Go out there tomorrow night on your ice, in front of your fans, in front of a TV audience filled with people that desire nothing more than to watch you fail against an opponent who has publicly called you a fraud and now defeated you three times to the joy of your detractors everywhere.

Go out there and play your bloody hearts out.
I was going through a super super rough time during that run and going through a rough break up (my gf at the time went to watch that game with friends) and I got ridiculously high and drunk before the game even started. Ended up passing out and missing the entire game but was kind of glad cuz I was so invested in them back then I don't think I could've handled that game lol. Was nice to wake up and they won
 

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We made it to Game 7 of the SCF while losing a top 6 winger (Samuelsson), our #1 D (Hamhuis) and Selke quality #2C (Kesler).

I will always use injuries as a valid excuse as to why that team didn't win it all.
Also Raymond had a broken back. And Luongos shattered confidence.

That teams D was so stacked. Lost Hamhuis but still had Edler, Bieksa, Salo, Ehrhoff, Ballard, young Tanev, Rome and Alberts.
 

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Posted this GIF before Nashville games #4 and 6..and Edmonton game #3...3 for 3..Unbeaten.

Massive game.

fingers-crossed.gif
 

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I expect PDG to get tapped next to Miller. He's played in that spot before and Tocc trusts him defensively.

Tocc isn't going to split up Garland/Joshua and they'll likely stay with Blueger, as the Swede line has actually looked good.

If it's not an injury-related thing, Mik comes in on the 4th line.


I don't think they can or will run an alignment like this. It's a pure two-line team.
I know Bluegar had a nice cup of coffee with Joshua and Garland but he’s looked bad with them the last two games. Garland and Joshua need more minutes and quality minutes. Need them both in the top 6.

Joshua-Miller is a load.
Garland can push Petey.

I like it.
 
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Imagine if they get it done tonight and Demko was ready to go for Dallas. Not that I have anything bad to say about Silovs at all. But Demko has that next level game stealing air about him. Could be that boost the team needs after losing Brock.

But that's getting ahead of things, Edmonton tonight. Lay it all on the line.
 

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We made it to Game 7 of the SCF while losing a top 6 winger (Samuelsson), our #1 D (Hamhuis) and Selke quality #2C (Kesler).

I will always use injuries as a valid excuse as to why that team didn't win it all.
and Malhotra, Rome, Raymond in game 7
 

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i don't really have a different opinion than i did at the start of the series. canucks are quite capable of winning this game and series. how much they have left in the tank is a constant question for both teams deeper into the playoffs, but i don't see one blow out as telling you much about that. canucks beat the rangers 4-1 in game 6 at home in 1994.

and i am not looking ahead at all. any discussion of dallas is for tomorrow.
 

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Don't know if Brock comes back even if we make the Finals. Generally if it isn't a serious clot (no limb ischemia etc) and he has no other bleeding risk then its 3 months of a DOAC (direct oral anticoagulant). I don't know if he can elect to have an IVC filter put in instead (basically a filter for blood going to your heart, it blocks the clot so you won't get a pulmonary embolus) which would have maybe a week before he could practice but as a doctor I'd find it dubious to choose that over blood thinners. Like the best treatment is to prevent clots, this isn't 30 years ago when filters were going in everyone.

Maybe he can elect for it but as a doc I'd not do it. Most likely he's on blood thinners and cant play for 3 months.
Ya i mean best not to f*** around with it. Feel bad for him but happy it got caught.
 

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Either it's a "yeah that makes sense, we lose too many key pieces and didn't have the depth, but had a very successful season" or it's simply "lmao the Olilers blew it"
 
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Thinking about this the only one that really can substitute for Boeser is Garland a righty who also forechecks hard creates plays he can do that for Miller.

Petey and Lindholm with Joshua can work too.
 
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I know Bluegar had a nice cup of coffee with Joshua and Garland but he’s looked bad with them the last two games. Garland and Joshua need more minutes and quality minutes. Need them both in the top 6.

Joshua-Miller is a load.
Garland can push Petey.

I like it.
The one advantage the Canucks have in this game is last change. I'm predicting that the lines Tocchet runs with will be highly situational to try and maximize that advantage. I can also see him loading up on ice time for the top two lines as the game wears on if the Canucks aren't in the lead.

May as well play your best 9 to 10 skaters big minutes in a game like this. There's no point in keeping them rested up for the next game if there is no next game.
 
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