WCSF: Game 4 - Edmonton Oilers vs Vancouver Canucks, 7:30pm, ESPN

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(Oilers trail series 2-1)

Game Day: Tuesday May 14th 2024
Game Time: 7:30 PM
Location: Rogers Place
Broadcast: SN / CBC


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PREVIOUS ENCOUNTERS

GAME 1



GAME 2



GAME 3


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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Connor McDavid - Zach Hyman
Dylan Holloway - Leon Draisaitl - Evander Kane
Warren Foegele - Ryan McLeod - Corey Perry
Mattias Janmark - Derek Ryan - Connor Brown

Mattias Ekholm - Evan Bouchard
Darnell Nurse - Vinny Desharnais
Brett Kulak - Cody Ceci
Philip Broberg

Calvin Pickard


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Pius Suter - JT Miller - Brock Boeser
Ilya Mikheyev - Elias Pettersson - Linus Karlsson
Dakota Joshua - Elias Lindholm - Conor Garland
Nis Aman - Teddy Blueger - Sam Lafferty

Quinn Hughes - Filip Hronek
Nikita Zadorov - Tyler Myers
Noah Juulsen - Ian Cole

Arturs Silovs



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  • Arrive violently.

  • Do not go quietly into the night.

  • Just win.
 
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So here is something I wanted to discuss with you lovely people.

Coaching philosophies. I was listening to the Oilers coach, and he was asked multiple times about physicality, hits, intensity, and tenacity.

He was asked if it’s overrated, if it’s not a big indicator, etc.

His answer surprised me. In multiple interviews, he basically said that it’s not a good gauge. Physicality is overblown, and hits especially mean nothing. Go back and listen to three of his last four interviews; he goes in-depth on this.

In contrast, the Canucks coach keeps talking about physicality, intensity, how players have to be strong on the puck, need to hit hard, forecheck hard, and how it’s an incredibly important gauge to see and match teams' intensities or dictate your own.

He said that if you’re playing hard, you’re naturally going to hit more, which usually is a good indicator of how hard you’re working for that specific game.

So my question to you guys is: which style/opinion do you believe in more?
 

EchoesoftheEighties

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So here is something I wanted to discuss with you lovely people.

Coaching philosophies, so I was listening to the Oilers coach, and he was asked multiple multiple times about physicality, about hits, about intensity, tenacity.

He was asked if it’s overrated, if it’s not a bit indicator, etc.

His answer, kind of surprised me, multiple interviews he basically said that it’s not a good gauge, physicality is basically overblown, and hits especially basically means nothing, go back and listen to three of his last four interviews, he goes in depth on this.

In contrast, the Canucks coach keeps talking about physicality, intensity, how people have to be strong on the puck, need to hit hard, forecheck hard, and it’s an incredibly important gauge to see and match teams, intensities, or dictate your own.

He said that if you’re playing hard, naturally you’re going to hit more, which usually is a good indicator on how hard you’re working for that specific game.

So my question to you guys is which style/opinion do you believe in more?
I think Knob doesn't want guys going overboard physically because specifically when Oiler players do that, they get caught up in the emotional game and start taking dumb penalties or suspensions.
 

Canucks LB

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I think Knob doesn't want guys going overboard physically because specifically when Oiler players do that, they get caught up in the emotional game and start taking dumb penalties or suspensions.
Both coaches mention going out of their way to make a hit is never a good idea, but I feel like the concept of physicality is so different between the two coaches, maybe the Knob thinks that Edmonton can’t play that physical style, so they have to do something different?
 

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Coaching philosophies. I was listening to the Oilers coach, and he was asked multiple times about physicality, hits, intensity, and tenacity.

He was asked if it’s overrated, if it’s not a big indicator, etc.

His answer surprised me. In multiple interviews, he basically said that it’s not a good gauge. Physicality is overblown, and hits especially mean nothing. Go back and listen to three of his last four interviews; he goes in-depth on this.

Horvat would love playing for him
 

Bobby9

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Onto our backup goalie who is not proven playoffs at all.
Ceci still in Top 4.
I say it's a must win.. I also think we're in trouble here.

Basically, we need McDrai to outscore our problems ... again.

f*** Ken Holland.
Whats the report on Pickard?

HIs he athletic or does he have good positioning to the shooter? Scramble or calm?
 
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EchoesoftheEighties

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Both coaches mention going out of their way to make a hit is never a good idea, but I feel like the concept of physicality is so different between the two coaches, maybe the Knob thinks that Edmonton can’t play that physical style, so they have to do something different?
I would argue they can play that style but honestly the Canucks guys are just bigger. You won't win that battle against a 6 foot whatever Zadorov or Myers.
 

JAK

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Both coaches mention going out of their way to make a hit is never a good idea, but I feel like the concept of physicality is so different between the two coaches, maybe the Oilers coach thinks that Edmonton can’t play that physical style, so they have to do something different?

Oilers coach has not even played in the minor leagues, his coaching record mostly consists of junior leagues, Canucks coach has an NHL career that has 952pts and 2972 PIMs in 1144 GP, with one Cup as a player and two as Assistant Coach.

I think those sort of reflect their coaching philosophies. One has been in the trenches, and one hasn't.
 

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Oilers coach has not even played in the minor leagues, his coaching record mostly consists of junior leagues, Canucks coach has an NHL career that has 952pts and 2972 PIMs in 1144 GP, with one Cup as a player and two as Assistant Coach.

I think those sort of reflect their coaching philosophies. One has been in the trenches, and one hasn't.
But he coached teenage McDavid!
 

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Oilers coach has not even played in the minor leagues, his coaching record mostly consists of junior leagues, Canucks coach has an NHL career that has 952pts and 2972 PIMs in 1144 GP, with one Cup as a player and two as Assistant Coach.

I think those sort of reflect their coaching philosophies. One has been in the trenches, and one hasn't.

Absolutely. Cue the Oiler fans who'll claim that doesn't mean a thing and experience is overrated.
 
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