GDT: WCQF: Game 5 - Colorado Avalanche @ Dallas Stars | 7:30 MT

[The Pwnerer]

I would even go further and say we simply have to win this series. Not just to overcome our kryptonite in Dallas and god damnit to win a Game 7, but also for the future of this franchise.

1st round out after we went all in and brought in our best team since 2022 is just unacceptable and should cause some major changes. And this against a Dallas team without their No 1 D-Man and Robo, coming into the playoffs on a terrible losing streak....

I really hope everyone gets it by now whats on the line.

Yup, there's no doubt in my mind that this entire team's future course is going to take a drastic turn if we don't end up succeeding in this. Coach, core, and/or GM. Its open season in my opinion if we get to that point. It's really humbling and upsetting. I truly believe we have all the pieces needed to compete but something is just very wrong.

 

[The Moops]

@nammerus rn

 

[Chiarelli]

Cale Makar needs to be better, plain and simple. He’s been terrible the entire series.

 

[dahrougem2]

This series has truly been a special teams affair.

The Stars have DOUBLE the xGF of the Avs on the PP. Not just that, but double the scoring chances and TRIPLE the high danger chances.

The Avs PP has been utterly pathetic, and that is on the top players. Cale Makar has been pathetic all series. Marty Necas has done nothing. Val Nichushkin has done nothing. Jonathan Drouin has been a turnover machine.

The Avs once again had an anemic PP last night, especially at a critical juncture after they had just killed off a Stars PP and the game was 1-0. Instead, they did nothing then later on got scored on during another critical juncture down 3-2 and NEEDING a kill.

It's insane. The Stars can seemingly at will move the puck around on the PP and do whatever they feel like doing. Meanwhile, the Avs are spread out, lacking support, not making proper passes, getting bull rushed by PKers and getting pissed off at each other. Eventually MacKinnon decides it's 1v5 time and that never works.

5v5 the Avs have been the better team in this series. I will die on that hill, and the numbers back that up.

Special teams has been a slaughter. Dallas is slicing the Avs up like butter.

 

[RECKLESS]

The second round was this core's dragon that they eventually finally slayed on their way to the cup.

Win the next game at home and slay the next dragon: Game 7.

There's my sports romantic view on how things are right now. And I want to see it manifest. The Avs are a team that is capable. Everyone needs to be all in and everything can click like game 4. I still believe they can do it, and they f***ing will!!

 

[The Pwnerer]

I'm not sure what happened to our special teams but the Stars powerplay has absolutely destroyed us as alluded to post above. They're doing anything they want below the hashmarks. It's honestly baffling.

 

[hockeyfish]

This series has truly been a special teams affair.

The Stars have DOUBLE the xGF of the Avs on the PP. Not just that, but double the scoring chances and TRIPLE the high danger chances.

The Avs PP has been utterly pathetic, and that is on the top players. Cale Makar has been pathetic all series. Marty Necas has done nothing. Val Nichushkin has done nothing. Jonathan Drouin has been a turnover machine.

The Avs once again had an anemic PP last night, especially at a critical juncture after they had just killed off a Stars PP and the game was 1-0. Instead, they did nothing then later on got scored on during another critical juncture down 3-2 and NEEDING a kill.

It's insane. The Stars can seemingly at will move the puck around on the PP and do whatever they feel like doing. Meanwhile, the Avs are spread out, lacking support, not making proper passes, getting bull rushed by PKers and getting pissed off at each other. Eventually MacKinnon decides it's 1v5 time and that never works.

5v5 the Avs have been the better team in this series. I will die on that hill, and the numbers back that up.

Special teams has been a slaughter. Dallas is slicing the Avs up like butter.

You know it's bad when their defender loses a skate blade and lays on the ice for half a minute and you still can't generate a decent scoring chance.

 

[jaisen73]

I am confident this will go 7 games, less confident Colorado can win 2 in a row. That said, I am more pissed at the stupid format the NHL won't move away from for playoff seeding. The fact is these are two teams that shouldn't have to face each other in the first round based on where they finished. Not saying L.A. is an easier opponent for Colorado or Edmonton easier for Dallas but SMH... the format and the re-seeding need to change.

 

[Balthazar]

This series has truly been a special teams affair.

The Stars have DOUBLE the xGF of the Avs on the PP. Not just that, but double the scoring chances and TRIPLE the high danger chances.

The Avs PP has been utterly pathetic, and that is on the top players. Cale Makar has been pathetic all series. Marty Necas has done nothing. Val Nichushkin has done nothing. Jonathan Drouin has been a turnover machine.

The Avs once again had an anemic PP last night, especially at a critical juncture after they had just killed off a Stars PP and the game was 1-0. Instead, they did nothing then later on got scored on during another critical juncture down 3-2 and NEEDING a kill.

It's insane. The Stars can seemingly at will move the puck around on the PP and do whatever they feel like doing. Meanwhile, the Avs are spread out, lacking support, not making proper passes, getting bull rushed by PKers and getting pissed off at each other. Eventually MacKinnon decides it's 1v5 time and that never works.

5v5 the Avs have been the better team in this series. I will die on that hill, and the numbers back that up.

Special teams has been a slaughter. Dallas is slicing the Avs up like butter.

Avs PP is always shit against an aggressive PK. Dallas noticed.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Makar going MIA sucks. Easily his worst series so far.

 

[MacKaRtin]

3 w

This series has truly been a special teams affair.

The Stars have DOUBLE the xGF of the Avs on the PP. Not just that, but double the scoring chances and TRIPLE the high danger chances.

The Avs PP has been utterly pathetic, and that is on the top players. Cale Makar has been pathetic all series. Marty Necas has done nothing. Val Nichushkin has done nothing. Jonathan Drouin has been a turnover machine.

The Avs once again had an anemic PP last night, especially at a critical juncture after they had just killed off a Stars PP and the game was 1-0. Instead, they did nothing then later on got scored on during another critical juncture down 3-2 and NEEDING a kill.

It's insane. The Stars can seemingly at will move the puck around on the PP and do whatever they feel like doing. Meanwhile, the Avs are spread out, lacking support, not making proper passes, getting bull rushed by PKers and getting pissed off at each other. Eventually MacKinnon decides it's 1v5 time and that never works.

5v5 the Avs have been the better team in this series. I will die on that hill, and the numbers back that up.

Special teams has been a slaughter. Dallas is slicing the Avs up like butter.

To me, if we end up losing, we'll look back and say series turning point was the 4 minute PP at the end of Game 3

 

[ABasin]

Cale Makar needs to be better, plain and simple. He’s been terrible the entire series.

Yep.

 

[LOFIN]

This series has truly been a special teams affair.

The Stars have DOUBLE the xGF of the Avs on the PP. Not just that, but double the scoring chances and TRIPLE the high danger chances.

The Avs PP has been utterly pathetic, and that is on the top players. Cale Makar has been pathetic all series. Marty Necas has done nothing. Val Nichushkin has done nothing. Jonathan Drouin has been a turnover machine.

The Avs once again had an anemic PP last night, especially at a critical juncture after they had just killed off a Stars PP and the game was 1-0. Instead, they did nothing then later on got scored on during another critical juncture down 3-2 and NEEDING a kill.

It's insane. The Stars can seemingly at will move the puck around on the PP and do whatever they feel like doing. Meanwhile, the Avs are spread out, lacking support, not making proper passes, getting bull rushed by PKers and getting pissed off at each other. Eventually MacKinnon decides it's 1v5 time and that never works.

5v5 the Avs have been the better team in this series. I will die on that hill, and the numbers back that up.

Special teams has been a slaughter. Dallas is slicing the Avs up like butter.

If we end up losing this series, the only way Bednar survives is if the assistants responsible get the axe.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

The elbowing call is bs. This is shades of Moore on Naslund. He reaches for the puck and Malinski finishes his check. It should be fair game. Stupid call.

 

[AegonLeConqueror]

If we end up losing this series, the only way Bednar survives is if the assistants responsible get the axe.

The Avs PP either overthinks everything or rush things when they have time to slow things down and the Avs PK is the most passive PK, probably in the league.

Dallas' special teams are the opposite. They play the PP at their own pace and their PK swarms puck carriers and does its absolute best to prevent zone entries. Meanwhile, the Avs watch and back off as each and ever Stars player just waltzes into the zone.

 

[Ceremony]

Just absolute shite, all in. The amount of dives from Dallas are embarrassing. The powerplay is embarrassing. I don't know what Makar or MacKinnon are doing. Our cup seems to have been the Landeskog goal. Hope you all enjoyed it.

 

[wayninja]

We'll be fine once we get a goalie and Landy back

 

[dahrougem2]

@The Mars Volchenkov are the vibes in the room down?

 

[AllAboutAvs]

You know it's bad when their defender loses a skate blade and lays on the ice for half a minute and you still can't generate a decent scoring chance.

Not only that but he is also the one that blocked the shot enough for it to trickle down to Otty. I was so mad.

 

[Bender]

Lol why am I ZERO surprised ?



I just googled 'is trevor hanson the worst referee in the NHL' and came across that video from 4 days ago...

 

[Avsfan1921]

If we end up losing this series, the only way Bednar survives is if the assistants responsible get the axe.

You’re likely right if they lose and I’m not even against it as new voices are needed at times for every team, but I hope our star players take a long look in the mirror and realize they cost a good coach his job. This series has been a player problem, not a coaching one. The only important piece to show up consistently has been the goaltender.

 

[katfude]

The elbowing call is bs. This is shades of Moore on Naslund. He reaches for the puck and Malinski finishes his check. It should be fair game. Stupid call.

Elbow doesn't even connect. Fish gonna flop

 

[expatriatedtexan]

You rarely get to play "your game" in the playoffs. What you get to do is have a chance to be the better team. The Avs were the better team for most of the series.

Bednar's message was enough to help them do that, but he can't shoot for them, or make saves on pucks.

DeBoer's strategy didn't prevent those chances and it didn't cause them to miss their chances either.

I haven't liked the lines. It doesn't matter. They've had their chances, and they've done well preventing the chances from Dallas.

The only thing more important than that is capitalizing on your own chances and the Avs haven't done that. That's not on the coach that's on the players.

If they can't figure it out themselves, they're going to have the same problem with a new coach, because he can't shoot for them either.

I'm sorry, but Bednar has not put his team in the best position possible for victory. He's still got Necas and MacKinnon on the same line.

It doesn't matter that Bednar can't take the shots for the guys when he's putting the team in a position to get its collective shit pushed in on a nightly basis due to his lineups.

The only thing I care about this offseason is a full 100% sweep of the coaching staff. This has become a bigger need than figuring out the 2C. Another way of saying it, Bednar would f*** this team up if he was given Crosby to be his 2C. We need a new coach with a true team philosophy. A coach who will work with and better his depth players instead of throwing them away in a hissyfit and telling CMac he constantly wants/needs different toys. Bednar needs to take better care of the men he is given and entrusted with.

 

[Foppa2118]

I'm sorry, but Bednar has not put his team in the best position possible for victory. He's still got Necas and MacKinnon on the same line.

It doesn't matter that Bednar can't take the shots for the guys when he's putting the team in a position to get its collective shit pushed in on a nightly basis due to his lineups.

The only thing I care about this offseason is a full 100% sweep of the coaching staff. This has become a bigger need than figuring out the 2C. Another way of saying it, Bednar would f*** this team up if he was given Crosby to be his 2C. We need a new coach with a true team philosophy. A coach who will work with and better his depth players instead of throwing them away in a hissyfit and telling CMac he constantly wants/needs different toys.

I don't like the lines either, but it doesn't matter. The lines and the team have outplayed Dallas for most of the series.

They've generated more chances, they've generated the higher quality chances, and they've limited the Stars chances. Oettenger hasn't stood on his head. They just haven't capitalized on their own chances.

The Avs should be ahead in this series and the reason why they're not is on them. The players have to figure this out themselves.

If they fire the coach, the players still have to figure it out themselves. If they figure it out under a new coach, it just means they took too long to figure it out. They shouldn't escape the blame for that.

 

[AnimalMother73]

Been a fan since Avs moved to Denver. Avs have always been an offense first skill team. I don’t think these types of teams have near the success they should in the playoffs. Felt like they left at least two on the table during the Sakic and Foppa years and it’s looking the same for this generation. If change is coming coaching would make the most sense practically speaking but they may need to change their team philosophy if they want more playoff success.