GDT: WCQF: Game 5 - Colorado Avalanche @ Dallas Stars | 7:30 MT

[Grigowski]

I knew it would bite them in the ass by not playing Landy when he was ready…

So with Landy Wood and EJ dont blow the OT in Game 2?

We won Game 1 without Landy., We had all the chances in game 2 to win and go home with the lead.

We had a 4 min pp late in the 3rd and in OT to win Game 3, WITH Landy, and found a way to lose.

No, this is not about Landy not playing when he was "ready".

Getting Landy back should have been a big boost. That boost only lasted for Game 4.

Game 5 was back to the roots again. 9 seconds in.... and boom....

Its about half of our Top 6 playing not good enough. Its about our No. 1 D-Man and Norris-Winner (thank god the vote is for regular season only) nowthere to be seen when it matters most.

If i get eliminated by Dallas the year before and mocked on home-ice in game 6 and then get the chance for revenge, playing Dallas without Heiskannen und Robertson, i would come out like i want to eat them alive.

Instead chances are high we get eliminated on home-ice again. And Rants being the one who finishes us.....

If this happens, you can sing goodbye to any cup with this core as long as they have to go through Dallas. And that will be the cause for years to come.

Its also about pride. Pride, not to go out on home-ice and get mocked again.
Pride to take this back to Dallas and take this hurdle once and for all.

Lets see if they have it....

 

[niwotsblessing]

Fire Bednar.

 

[AvsCOL]

It did make sense imo but the team kinda got the good vibes out of it instead of playing the game properly. Human factor did not work. Our team was too happy afterwards. Fans were bumped though.

Landeskog returning became the story, not winning the game. Too much emotion, some of which could have been mitigated by him playing game 2. Avs played Miles Wood instead, who ended up costing them in OT.

 

[LOFIN]

 

[Tralfamadore]

Avs hadn't played an actual bad game in this series until last night. They were due for a stinker.

Hope they bounce back at home but game 7 is gonna suck.

Main storyline for this series is the Avs being unable to win consecutive games.

 

[Grigowski]

Avs hadn't played an actual bad game in this series until last night. They were due for a stinker.

And they go for this stinker at the worst time. Classic Avs.

Guess what, it wouldnt matter if they only win Game 2 or 3.... Especially Game 3. That 4 min PP late in the 3rd and OT..... Yikes...

They made their bed. No its do or die and Hollywood for them.

 

[Spilot23]

With these refs I have a hard time being optimist for game 7 if of course we make it. One of the most pathetic reffing I have seen. I'm not saying that they cost us the game but they were for sure a factor. Benn literally running into sticks getting calls while Mack gets a vicious crosscheck behind the neck no call. Sadly home game often means home refs.

 

[The Merchant]

Not Norris but look at Hellebuyck

At least Helly has a history. Cale has no excuse. He has a Conn Smythe to his name, ffs

 

[The Shermanator]

Small sample size but this core has never won a Game 7.

 

[flyfysher]

What’s surprising to me are the posters that think the turd which the players laid on us was solely the player’s fault and would absolve the coaches of any responsibility for the debacle. Do they really think the coaches have so little impact on motivating much less coaching the players on tactics? Wouldn’t how the Avs came out in game 4 or how the Stars came out in game 5 show the fallacy in that line of thinking? Some posters said the Avs seemed to initially play with energy but what struck me was how easily they fell apart after the two fluke goals. IOW, where was the players’ resilience in the face of adversity? Even after Lehky and Mack’s goals, the coverage was atrocious allowing the Stars to quickly put the game out of reach. Watching the Avs in games 4 and.5 was like watching Jekyll and Hyde. Just utterly schizophrenic. If the coaches have no role in crafting the personality and character of the team then are they truly and solely about X’s and O’s and nothing else?

 

[Forceberg]

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And they go for this stinker at the worst time. Classic Avs.

Guess what, it wouldnt matter if they only win Game 2 or 3.... Especially Game 3. That 4 min PP late in the 3rd and OT..... Yikes...

They made their bed. No its do or die and Hollywood for them.

If they had scored on the 3:20 minute power play in OT and won, they would have lost Game 4 as it stands right now.

The last bit is missing to win a cup.
They don't have the “eye of the tiger”.

 

[The Pwnerer]

In a series like this every little mistake matters. Not being able to hold third period leads in game 2 and 3 were costly. Dallas are a veteran led club with a lot of playoff experience coming off back to back WCFs. They were absolutely going to bounce back and not go down easily after game 4.

Dallas has good finishers, they will exploit any defensive mental breakdowns. We once again gave them free reign in the front of the net.This game was over by the 1st period. I'm not blaming Blackwood who is having a fantastic series but it is nearly impossible to comeback from two back breaking goals like that especially in the 1st and last minute. Those were absolutely soul crushing to go in the locker with. You saw glimpses of us building momentum but it was shut down by mistake. A bad penalty, bad breakdown in our zone or another goal given up.

The most alarming part of yesterday was it was the first time I've seen guys visibly frustrated and off there game. The core here knows how last year went and the demons they have against this Stars team. Now that history is potentially repeating itself the noose is getting tighter on them. The Mackinnon outburst was upsetting to see. It's how all of us fans feel right now but to see it out of a core leader? That **** can either work or backfire in a really bad way. Ugly stuff.

Dallas has gotten in the heads of some of the guys. The build the wall defense is working. Anybody who goes to the net or tries to cycle will get punished. The defensive breakdowns are back again. They cycled us to death again. Veteran moves. After the whistle crosschecks, tactics to absolutely frustrate our players. Players are glued in on Makar and Mackinnon. Makar clearly is frustrated and the Dallas blanketing is working.

I have no doubt they will come out flying in game 6. But hockey is a fickle *****, and right now Oettinger is on his A game. He has absolutely changed the outlook on this series. Not good at all. This is going to be a franchise defining two games. I just don't see how we don't avoid major changes if we end up on the wrong side of this.

We know all the extra storyline in play here. Rantanen, past series, going all in and the Landeskog redemption story. It just makes me sick as fan. Irrationally irate and moody. This sport can be very unhealthy at times. Hope you all are able to dial it back and get your mind off hockey for a bit. Because this series might be the most hurt I've felt in a series since getting knocked out in 1999, 2000 WCF series by you guessed it, the Stars....

 

[Slowdive]

After sleeping on it, here a few thoughts....
1) Some saying Makar has been invisible, that's not true. He has though picked a horrible time for his shot not to go. He is getting lots of chances, but no results. That said, he is still making I'll advised passes and looks to be over-thinking.

2) Some love to rant on coaching, I get it. However, Like Makar, Nelson, Nuke, Necas, and JD have also picked a terrible time to go cold.

3) The Gabe boost only helped game 4. Game 3 effort wasn't there. Game 5 Avs crumble. This point has me really miffed. I would have thought Gabe coming back would have the team doing whatever it takes, go through a wall to win, that hasn't happened. That's not coaching. Players at this level should not need rah-rah speeches to be focused at the task at hand. Rah Rah speeches are nice, but players should be motivated and play for there teammates, and there letting Gabe down.

Just my two cents.......

 

[flyfysher]

Players at this level should not need rah-rah speeches to be focused at the task at hand. Rah Rah speeches are nice, but players should be motivated and play for there teammates, and there letting Gabe down.

Respectfully disagree with the above. In a perfect world, maybe. But people are human and imperfect. Ray Borque gave a speech to the Avs in 2001 about maintaining focus didn’t he? I thought Borque spoke to the team both before the start of the season and going into the POs. Basically, I thought the gist was, ‘we’re here to win the SC.’ I think everyone can use a motivational speech to fire them up when the situation calls for it.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Landeskog returning became the story, not winning the game. Too much emotion, some of which could have been mitigated by him playing game 2. Avs played Miles Wood instead, who ended up costing them in OT.

I was surprised by that but I think you are right.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

And they go for this stinker at the worst time. Classic Avs.

Guess what, it wouldnt matter if they only win Game 2 or 3.... Especially Game 3. That 4 min PP late in the 3rd and OT..... Yikes...

They made their bed. No its do or die and Hollywood for them.

Exactly. We could be done with this series with better play. We can only come up with excuses.

 

[Bender]

After sleeping on it, here a few thoughts....
1) Some saying Makar has been invisible, that's not true. He has though picked a horrible time for his shot not to go. He is getting lots of chances, but no results. That said, he is still making I'll advised passes and looks to be over-thinking.

2) Some love to rant on coaching, I get it. However, Like Makar, Nelson, Nuke, Necas, and JD have also picked a terrible time to go cold.

3) The Gabe boost only helped game 4. Game 3 effort wasn't there. Game 5 Avs crumble. This point has me really miffed. I would have thought Gabe coming back would have the team doing whatever it takes, go through a wall to win, that hasn't happened. That's not coaching. Players at this level should not need rah-rah speeches to be focused at the task at hand. Rah Rah speeches are nice, but players should be motivated and play for there teammates, and there letting Gabe down.

Just my two cents.......

Makar calling for the puck after trying to set the record for most shots from the point into the goaltender's glove was something else. He played like shit. Maybe he's injured, maybe he's not but he was horrible.

We were going to make a comeback but the reftards sure saw that there was no way that was going to happen with their absolutely god-awful - check their goddam bank accounts because these assholes are bought off - officiating.

The call on Malinski was awful - I saw about 10 hits that were way worse than that all game long including this beauty by 'the 2 of spades' hintz :

I guess his arms weren't extended enough.

HOW MANY GODDAM REFTARDS DO YOU NEED ON THE ICE TO MAKE THAT CALL ????

Speaking of which - remember that cross checking call on Lindgren earlier in the series??? I guess that's it's only cross checking if its early in the series...

These two f***ing bought-off dickheads - trevor hanson and kyle rehman - I've never even heard of them... WTF is the nhl doing sending these two f***tards to ref an important game when they can be sent to ref one of the series that is 3-to-1 like the leafs, caps or hurricanes. Those series are already over.

Looks like the dallass owner knows where to invest his money - into the refs pockets.

All in all, whatever happens - f*** YOU nhl you'll never get another f***ing DIME of my money.

 

[Ararana]

The turning point in this series was not scoring on that four minute power play than went into overtime in game 3. Completely swung the momentum in Dallas favor, even the game 4 beat down was just the Avs catching up.

The Avs lack of execution lost them this series. I know the ice is shit in Dallas, but my god - adjust. Losing to Dallas when they don't have their best defenseman AND their best forward is just wildly embarrassing and heads need to roll for it.

I'm a big Bednar guy but he should 100% be fired in the next few weeks. He's never going to get past DeBoer led teams.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Maybe they win game 6, but game 7 will be another typical Avs heartbreaker. They never win those.

 

[RampoSanta]

I guess I will cast the minority opinion but I didnt hate the effort last night. I felt like it was a fairly even game in a situation where all the pressure was on the stars. And then then Avs proceeded to get no breaks whatsoever. If that was the stars best punch, they needed fluke goals and generous officiating to win.

Any chance of a Hintz suspension?? Sorry, just took a hit off the crack pipe.

 

[Slowdive]

Respectfully disagree with the above. In a perfect world, maybe. But people are human and imperfect. Ray Borque gave a speech to the Avs in 2001 about maintaining focus didn’t he? I thought Borque spoke to the team both before the start of the season and going into the POs. Basically, I thought the gist was, ‘we’re here to win the SC.’ I think everyone can use a motivational speech to fire them up when the situation calls for it.

That's a fair point, I hear you.

 

[Ararana]

Any chance of a Hintz suspension??

You're really expecting George Parros, of all people, to throw the Avs a bone? Never going to happen.

 

[Grigowski]

Dallas are a veteran led club with a lot of playoff experience coming off back to back WCFs. They were absolutely going to bounce back and not go down easily after game 4.

MacKinnon, Toews, Makar, Manson, Johnson, Landeskog, Nuke, Lehkonen are veterans too. And they allready won a cup.

And yet, here we are. I really dont know whats wrong, but a team with experienced veterans struggling to close out tight games or bury just one f***ing golden chance in OT is something else.....And thats the same bunch of veterans that should know how to win those games because they have done it in 2022.

I mean, its not that Dallas is beating our asses like last year when Nuke went on his trip.

I would even go further and say we simply have to win this series. Not just to overcome our kryptonite in Dallas and god damnit to win a Game 7, but also for the future of this franchise.

1st round out after we went all in and brought in our best team since 2022 is just unacceptable and should cause some major changes. And this against a Dallas team without their No 1 D-Man and Robo, coming into the playoffs on a terrible losing streak....

I really hope everyone gets it by now whats on the line.

 

[Balthazar]

Can’t sleep.

Been in bed for the past 1.5 hours.

Got up to go walk the dogs.

Back home now. Still pissed off.

2:20 AM and need to be up for work in 4 hours and 40 minutes.

On the bright side, I'm sure the dogs were really happy to go for a walk in the middle of the night.

 

[Alienblood]

Landy, Mack , Nuke please