SoundwaveIsCharisma
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I mean, if we're happy with being 0-4 against DeBoer and truly challenging (and winning the Cup) once with Makar and MacKinnon I guess his system works great.
GDT: WCQF: Game 5 - Colorado Avalanche @ Dallas Stars | 7:30 MT
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Also, last game we saw a f*** ton of G and Makar as a pair and they looked dangerous. Did they even have one shift together tonight?
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That was a really impressive deflection from the question Soundwave.
Wow, I didn't realise we get two, two-day breaks. Oilers/Kings don't even get one lol.
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They done. Never had what it takes to make a run. I would clean house, CMac and coaches gone. 3 potential cup runs and one series win to show for it.
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DanishAvsfan
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Regardless of whether it is the players not executing the coaches’ strategies, or if the coaches are being out-coached by Deboer and his coaches, it is the responsibilty of our coaches to make sure the team is at their very best in the play-offs. Hence, at a minimum, the coaches need to go if they lose this series.
I can't believe a coach the over plays his stars, has lost in the playoffs to the same guy 4 times in a row, and didn't even bother to hold practices, is getting defended so much. Not one long term coach has won more than two cups in the modern era. The times keep changing. It's time to move on. We're wasting away under him. This is now the second 1st round exit in 3 years. We're getting worse and our core is aging.
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We really need home ice advantage in the playoffs when playing this f***in Dallas team. I mean who on here truly believes we can win 2 games against that team, game 7 being in Dallas? I know the heart will say yes, we can pull it off, but the brain just says we’re done
SoundwaveIsCharisma
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Not really. The Avs have consistently shown a trend where they let series slip away. Are you going to throw all the blame on the players for that? We've had a lot of roster turnover. The team also consistently plays a perimeter based game, and they consistently do the same high risk, low reward plays game in and game out. There are occasional games in there where things work out beautifully (like Game 4). But when things aren't going well, how often are they adapting and adjusting, how often do we see that gameplan deviate away from the perimeter based, look for the perfect shot style of game they insist on playing?
If that's all on the players, then what is Bednar doing? If it's not on the players, then Bednar's got to take some blame for that.
I'll go back to that Vegas series, DeBoer bitching and moaning so loudly about reffing 10000000% changed how the officials called that series. I honestly can't think of a big coaching moment like that from Bednar.
It's not that the system is a complete failure. It's that it almost requires perfect execution to work. He's shown he can't figure out how to use shapes that don't fit into his scheme. He requires every player to adjust to his system, and can't seem to figure out how to use them when they don't.
If the Avs had an option of running him as the overall "strategic" coach who figures out some of the bigger picture things, but he had a top tier assistant who could make in game strategic adjustments I'd be all for it. However, we know that our assistants can't do that, hell, they can't even do their own jobs right now.
I don't think he's a bad coach. I just don't think you can repeatedly trot out the same coaching staff when their actual track record for success doesn't warrant it.
This is one area I will blame the players on. Down the stretch, they went full IDGAF mode and didn't even try to catch the Stars in the standing.
Has another player ever had a worse playoff performance after a Norris-winning season? Can't think of one. Cale should be ashamed of himself.
Necas learned to be a corsi hero in his time in Carolina, because he does not pass the eyetest this postseason.
Last time they had a two day break, they pummeled the Stars. Here's hoping it happens again, though I have no faith in a game 7 victory so might as well be put out of our misery early
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This doesn't make sense. If it's the players not executing then it's on them not the coach. He can't shoot for them.
SoundwaveIsCharisma
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Despite me being an eternal pessimist, there's that small glimmer of hope that Cale actually shows up and leads the Avs to two dominant victories. We know he can do it, he's taken over series before. Holy hell has he been disappointing though, I don't think I've been as truly flabbergasted at how bad a great player is playing as this playoffs version of Cale.
SoundwaveIsCharisma
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If there's an advanced stat for shooting yourself in the foot the Avs would be setting all time highs during this playoff run
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Yeah, I wish we had the team we have now from the start of the season. We’d probably be at least 2nd in central and have home ice, but I don’t think this team is determined to go deep and win another cup. We’ve seen from previous cup runs, the team looked like they really wanted it from the start of the regular season.
Not seeing it from this team. Maybe with so many new players, they still haven’t truly come together yet. To me they kinda look like they’re pretending they want to win again, but it’s just not there
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Happen to agree witcha Sethro...
Since we're on Oprah's couch...
When I started watching the AVs again, and annoying people here, this was the first thing I noted about Beds. Was very prone to making 'them' statements in pressers. Very prone to making it 'the players', 'the locker room', rarely us meaning me (coach) and players. It was a reliable mantra for a long, long time.. Offputting to an extreme.
I have felt Beds is a super player development coach. And a poor game tactician. And a poorer game coach/adjuster. Worse of all, he doesn't coach MacK. He equivocates with MacK. This has fed the MacK pout affect that we all have come to not love.
That, on top of the endless distractions permitted to perpetuate, is zero surprise the AVies are up and down, highs and lows.
Been awhile since waxing on about the AVs. Off soapbox... and resetting expectations which are being met. Doesn't mean giving up. Means... calmer.
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