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WCF: Edmonton Oilers vs. Colorado Avalanche ( Avs lead 3-0 )

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Ararana said:
Edmonton has to break McDavid/Drai up first. Which I’m hoping they do.

If Bednar keeps the same top six lines:

McDavid vs Landeskog/Mackinnon/Lehkonen
Drai vs Nuke/Kadri/Rantanen

I like the Avs chances of limiting those two if they break them up. McDavid will put up points, it’s inevitable, but I don’t think we see him go ham like it did against Calgary (who sucks BTW).

If they keep them together it’s one holy hell of a shift to get through, but every time they’re off the ice play tilts in the Avs favor. Bednar has rolled Landeskog - Kadri - Nuke as a holy hell shutdown line in the regular season and they were f***ing awesome at shutting top lines down. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see that again at some point this series if Edmonton stacks their top line. Then Lehkonen-MacKinnon-Rantanen get to go against, who, RNH? I’d take that.

My big worry for the Avs is the Girard injury. Bednar has been leaning on Byram more, as he should, but he’s kept the pairings Byram-EJ, JJ - Manson. I think he’s going to need to put Byram-Manson together finally to be the real second pairing and try to shut down one of Edmonton’s two big forwards.

I do think it’s a bit funny that these two teams were in a dog fight for Kuemper and the Avs won becuase they threw Timmins in the deal. We’re about to find out how much winning that bidding war was worth it.
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Draisaitl is injured and it wasn't going well when he was playing center. Doubt they'll try that again, that ankle sprain isn't going anywhere.
 
Teams that are all offense with weak defense and goalie typically don't advance far in the playoffs. I'm not sure how close the LA series actually was, but Oilers almost got knocked out in the first round judging by it going to Game 7. That said, they CAN win. Anything's possible with McDavid and Draisaitl. Just not likely.
 
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McDrai are dragging the Oilers to a win in this series
Expecting every game to have scores like 8-7 and McDrai with 3-4 pts each nightly
 
MessierII said:
Kopitar and Danault are as good as it gets defensively in the nhl and they gave it everything they could to try and stop them. There’s nothing in Colorado that is going to slow down our offence it’s a matter of whether they can outscore us.
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This is an interesting way to look at it.

I think something that gets underestimated in ‘playing defence’ is keeping the other team in the defensive zone. This is something Colorado should do better than those teams. Even if they don’t have a centre with the defensive prowess of a Danault, or Kopitar.

Not to the extent of shutting them down, or anything, but I wouldn’t overlook that part of defending.
 
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My comment was a reply to a guy, who claimed that McDrai will do anything against anyone. They will not against Avs and have not. And will not. It will be great series, a hockey fans dream. Hopefully haha. Colorado has the ability to shut it down, if they want. Oilers do not have that luxury.
 
shadow1 said:
Kuemper struggling wasn't a story until the 3rd period + OT of Game 5 against St. Louis. Remove that game and he's a .915 SV% in his other 8 starts.

He hasn't stolen any games for Colorado, but he crapped the bed hard in Game 5, and followed it up with a soft opening goal in Game 6. Hopefully he can move past that blip in Round 3.
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It was not a soft goal. It was absolute nasty snipe above his shoulder.
Seems people dont realize how difficult is it for the keepers to stop pucks flying around their heads.
 
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Northern Avs Fan said:
This is an interesting way to look at it.

I think something that gets underestimated in ‘playing defence’ is keeping the other team in the defensive zone. This is something Colorado should do better than those teams. Even if they don’t have a centre with the defensive prowess of a Danault, or Kopitar.

Not to the extent of shutting them down, or anything, but I wouldn’t overlook that part of defending.
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I’m not disagreeing with you, but Calgary was a great possession team that was going to keep the oilers hemmed in with “wave after wave of unrelenting depth.” It didn’t work out so well for them
 
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TomppaKoo said:
My comment was a reply to a guy, who claimed that McDrai will do anything against anyone. They will not against Avs and have not. And will not. It will be great series, a hockey fans dream. Hopefully haha. Colorado has the ability to shut it down, if they want. Oilers do not have that luxury.
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why do people always say "this ain't the regular season" type of shit and then go back exactly to the regular season?

regardless....I guess that is why they play 7 game series eh? Little different playing the same team up to 7 times every second night....
 
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EdAVSfan said:
The Avs most assuredly can create an elite shut down line if they choose. They definitely have the players for it.

I’m extremely curious to see what Bednar decides to do. Does he match top lines. Does he create a defensive line for McDavid? Does Edmonton separate Draisaitl and McDavid?

It’ll be interesting to see how each coach decides to make their matchups.
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Yep... anxiously waiting to see what they will do with it.

Considering how well guys like Danault & Staal have done in the shut down role vs. top players, I would be really surprised if they don't try to adjust and counter the Oilers top line(s).
 
TomppaKoo said:
My comment was a reply to a guy, who claimed that McDrai will do anything against anyone. They will not against Avs and have not. And will not. It will be great series, a hockey fans dream. Hopefully haha. Colorado has the ability to shut it down, if they want. Oilers do not have that luxury.
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McDavid has a career points per game of 1.68 against the Avs. To put that into perspective he had a points per game of 1.54 in this regular season while running away with the scoring title. So yes, he can and will have his way with the Avs. The only question is can the Oilers limit the Avs high powered offense? We shall see
 
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Northern Avs Fan said:
This is an interesting way to look at it.

I think something that gets underestimated in ‘playing defence’ is keeping the other team in the defensive zone. This is something Colorado should do better than those teams. Even if they don’t have a centre with the defensive prowess of a Danault, or Kopitar.

Not to the extent of shutting them down, or anything, but I wouldn’t overlook that part of defending.
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Colorado has the better depth overall, they should be able to hem the Oilers in their own end with any of their top 3 lines. Colorado also has the better defensive players/structure. The real wild card is Kuemper and if he will be able to hold the fort and stop the chances that McDavid will undoubtedly create. This will likely be a close series
 
Avs in 7

Calgary is the only team Edmonton looks good against. I dont expect them to be anywhere near as good as they were against Calgary.
 
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Three On Zero said:
Colorado has the better depth overall, they should be able to hem the Oilers in their own end with any of their top 3 lines. Colorado also has the better defensive players/structure. The real wild card is Kuemper and if he will be able to hold the fort and stop the chances that McDavid will undoubtedly create. This will likely be a close series
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I’m expecting a close series as well.

I don’t think the Avs will stop that Oilers top line if they leave McDavid, Draisaitl, and Kane together. Just too much fire power. It’s a matter of if they can limit them somewhat and win the battle of the other three lines. Then which of the two goaltenders decides to shit the bed.
 
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Kadri marches up well with McDavid historically doesn't he? Not sure if I'm making that up or not. Oilers fans can probably chime in on that.
 
Northern Avs Fan said:
I’m expecting a close series as well.

I don’t think the Avs will stop that Oilers top line if they leave McDavid, Draisaitl, and Kane together. Just too much fire power. It’s a matter of if they can limit them somewhat and win the battle of the other three lines. Then which of the two goaltenders decides to shit the bed.
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Agreed, Colorado's depth with either win or lose this series.
 
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