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WC: May 2 GDT - Finland vs. Ukraine

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Jokerit Wasp said:
Ukraine will be up for it, after taking Sweden so close....
But if Finland gets into a lead, i think their heads will drop...
Finland 4-1 Ukraine
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Nice prediction :handclap:

Comfortable win for finland, Simchuck made a few decent saves, and loads that just seem to hit him...without him knowing where its at. Ukraine did create 3 or 4 good chances themselves.

Backstrom was good, should stick that Swede in net for the Sweden game on Weds :sarcasm:

Ukraine...very dirty tactics...shame, they were ok when they tried, and decent on the PP.
 
Robertsson 4-ever said:
What players stood out in the game?
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Timonen improved a lot from the first game and the pre games. Pärssinen, Kapanen, Hentunen played well. They kept the pressure on all game long. Jokinen kept missing wide open nets. Peltonen missed one or two open nets as well.

And yeah, I also picked the right score. I also picked what Peltonen said after the game about trying to play the style that does not necessarily fit against worse opponents like Ukraine, to get real practise for bigger games.

Bäckström struggled a bit, but he had no chance on the goal. He was horribly out of form in that one cross pass where ukraine managed to hit the post. Bäcks went down way too fast, and did not move sideways but dove on his nose. He was probably nervous, I saw nothing like that in the playoffs.
 
Our PP really does suck, when we can't score against Denmark or Ukraine how in hell can we score against the better teams? Not to mention that our SH isn't up to par either, Nummelin and SH doesn't belong together...

Tamminen made me really laugh out loud, "Hagman couldn't show his genious with puck..." yeah right, one "lack" word is missing from that sentence. And he also managed to show THAT - again. Why in hell is he always on team, anyone remember him having a good tournament - ever?

Practice games continue on Wednesday.
 
Taze said:
Tamminen made me really laugh out loud, "Hagman couldn't show his genious with puck..." yeah right, one "lack" word is missing from that sentence. And he also managed to show THAT - again. Why in hell is he always on team, anyone remember him having a good tournament - ever?
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How about when he was the best forward of the tournament in 2002 :dunno:

When everything he did went his way, he didn't get hit a single time, he hit and hustled and showed the way for team Finland and tantalized almost an entire nation with mind-dazzling moves and strong overall play? :dunno:
 
Robertsson 4-ever said:
Anyone special in Ukraine?
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My grandpa who watched the game kept swearing and mumbling and the only hearable thing except for lots of curse words was Varlamov ^^ He is an amazing skater with very good stick handler, and not a bad hustler either...
 
Taze said:
Our PP really does suck, when we can't score against Denmark or Ukraine .........
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:dunno:
And I thought today they scored 2 PP goals, and a third one was practically a PP goal also.

Of course I still don't understand AJ Niemi in the first PP unit, but he scored a goal...
 
Anyone who thinks Hagman had a good game needs to get his head and/or eyes checked...Inefficent scrapping & grinding in the corners, didn't do anything with the puck.
 
Pepper said:
Anyone who thinks Hagman had a good game needs to get his head and/or eyes checked...Inefficent scrapping & grinding in the corners, didn't do anything with the puck.
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I didn't claim he had a good game today...

I was just answering the question

Pepper said:
anyone remember him having a good tournament - ever?
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So there.
 
mattihp said:
I was just answering the question

So there.
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I never said that, you're quoting the wrong person!

Btw, a good tournament 3 years ago is not enough in my books. Since then he has done absolutely nothing.
 
Backstrom or Norrena

So which goalie are you guys more comfortable with??

Norrena or Backstrom?

I want to hear from you guys in this one!!

As I stated earlier, I want Backstrom as #1. :teach:
 
finska said:
So which goalie are you guys more comfortable with??

Norrena or Backstrom?

I want to hear from you guys in this one!!

As I stated earlier, I want Backstrom as #1. :teach:
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Despite of few shaky decisions by Bäckas, I would be more comfortable with him in the net..
 
finska said:
So which goalie are you guys more comfortable with??

Norrena or Backstrom?

I want to hear from you guys in this one!!

As I stated earlier, I want Backstrom as #1. :teach:
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Bäckström.
 
finska said:
So which goalie are you guys more comfortable with??

Norrena or Backstrom?

I want to hear from you guys in this one!!

As I stated earlier, I want Backstrom as #1. :teach:
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Although Bäcks played an ok game as his World Championship games debut, I'd still choose Norrena to be the starter mainly because he has more experience and played, imo, slightly better game. Though difficult to compare since they played against different opponents.
 
finska said:
So which goalie are you guys more comfortable with??

Norrena or Backstrom?

I want to hear from you guys in this one!!

As I stated earlier, I want Backstrom as #1. :teach:
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I would say Bäckström because he has come off from a solid FEL championship. Confidence is absolutely crucial for goalies; being assigned the number 1 goalie position and having the coach believe in you is so important. I remember watching the last regular season game with HIFK-Lukko where Vokoun allowed more goals than he normally did before that and then it went downhill from there. He hasn't been solid since that game...

Westerlund will have a tough decision for Wednesday's game. Sweden has played quite solidly tonight, so they will be fired up for the game. Erkka seem to have a tendency to choose players with more national experience, so he might go for Norrena. :dunno:
 
finska said:
So which goalie are you guys more comfortable with??

Norrena or Backstrom?

I want to hear from you guys in this one!!

As I stated earlier, I want Backstrom as #1. :teach:
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Hi Erkka!

Yeah Bäcks is my choise too, Swedes know Norrena better. I'd also suggest you give another thought to Antti Miettinen....

heheh
 
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I am glad that most of you seem to concur that Backstrom is the better choice for #1. I am a little worried though that Westerlund may still do some experimenting and give Norrena another chance.. I honestly think that we will lose against the Swedes if Norrena gets the nod. We shall see.
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I go for Norrena, better stickhandler, we need to start emphasizing stickhandling to our goalies. See Roloson, he was head and shoulders and waist better than anyone else in SM-Liiga.
 
Based on their first games it's a matter of utter indifference to me. However, I've always liked Norrena more so I'd go with him.
 
psycho_dad said:
:dunno:
And I thought today they scored 2 PP goals, and a third one was practically a PP goal also.
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Yes, they scored, but it doesn't change the fact that PP looked horrible. Against the better teams, it HAS TO improve. 1st PP unit seems to have one solution (Nummelin on point) and 2nd unit doesn't have even that. Also getting the puck in Ukrainian zone seemed overwhelming at times and Ukranians were pretty tired.


mattihp said:
How about when he was the best forward of the tournament in 2002
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Ok, he was good in those games, but after that it's been pretty damn quiet. What the hell happened to him? Too much 3rd/4th line duties in NHL? Nowadays he is just speeding around the rink, and nothing else happens.

Anyway, there's still 4 practice games left, before the games really begins.
 
Definetly Bäckström, apart from that one incident he was solid in goal.
 
Pepper said:
Definetly Bäckström, apart from that one incident he was solid in goal.
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...and Norrena was not solid when he played against Team Denmark?

To me both goalies are so close to each other that I don't complain if Erkka chooses Bäcks instead of Norrena. We can put either one between the pipes since they are so close to each other. In my book Norrena has a slight edge just because of his experience. Someone said Norrena is known by swedish but so does Norrena know the swedish players. Either way, I won't complain.
 
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