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WC: Apr 30 GDT - Latvia vs. Canada

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Canada's players would agree with you. Latvia worked hard...and they really didn't lay back and play too much trap..like so many "2nd tier" teams will try and do.
Canadas defence is going to get critisized...all because people don't see the super huge names on the list in Austria...but they are still miles better than 90% of the teams in the tounrey.
 
If you missed the game like i did this morning , it is now available to view online at media zone for those who subscribed.
 
I thought it was a very average performance by a superior team. Latvia's coach probably said what was true. Some of these guys have only been on skates a dozen times this year. Skate your asses off and you will be competitive.

"The Canadian defense had trouble containing the speed of the Latvians." :biglaugh:

As for the Canadian that was pumping the fantastic Canadian defense. Give your head a shake, they were craptastic. They looked rusty and out of shape. In the real world Latvia gets 14 shots on goal in a 8-1 romp.

Well, nice to see the Red and White coloured glasses are out in full force this year. ;)
 
Crossroads said:
I know the played poor but even if they do that throughout their next games, they're still the best D corps (or on the same level) as others in the tournament.

Canada's D playing bad >>> Slovakia (only one good D-man and that's Chara)
Canada's D playing bad > USA
Canada's D playing bad >>> Finland
Canada's D playing bad = Sweden
Canada's D playing bad > Russia
Canada's D playing bad = Czech
Canada's D playing bad >>> Germany
Canada's D playing bad >>> Slovenia

Try to challenge that and come up with a reasonable argument while doing so.
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Oh yeah? Well, I think Canada has the worst D.

Canada's D at best << Slovakia
Canada's D at best <<<<<< USA
Canada's D at best <<< Finland
Canada's D at best << Sweden
Canada's D at best < Russia
Canada's D at best < Czech
Canada's D at best << Germany
Canada's D at best = Slovenia (only after they're plastered though, otherwise <<< Slovenia)

Try to challenge that logic and come up with a reasonable argument while doing so.

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Anybody who thinks "Well gee, as long as the other teams' defense look worse on paper than ours, we'll be fine" has another thing coming. If our defense plays the way it did today for the rest of the tournament, we won't just be going home without the gold, we'll be going home with a lot of laughter from the other countries.

With all respect to Latvia, they played a helluva game and gave Canada a great run for their money, but our defense really needs to wake up. The time for tune-ups and "getting into the flow" is over, and they need to be on their A-Game.

As for the people who say they don't see any Sakics or Iginlas on this team, Rick Nash sure seemed to come answer the bell. He stepped up big time with the hat-trick.

Onto the next game.

~Canucklehead~
 
slats432 said:
I thought it was a very average performance by a superior team. Latvia's coach probably said what was true. Some of these guys have only been on skates a dozen times this year. Skate your asses off and you will be competitive.

"The Canadian defense had trouble containing the speed of the Latvians." :biglaugh:

As for the Canadian that was pumping the fantastic Canadian defense. Give your head a shake, they were craptastic. They looked rusty and out of shape. In the real world Latvia gets 14 shots on goal in a 8-1 romp.

Well, nice to see the Red and White coloured glasses are out in full force this year. ;)
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What real world are you living in? Where is this planet that Canada could have been beat by ANYONE 8-1...let alone Latvia.
I'm not going to say our defence looks like its going to be "fantastic"...but in the "real world" I'm from...they will be plenty capable.
 
Everest said:
Canada's players would agree with you. Latvia worked hard...and they really didn't lay back and play too much trap..like so many "2nd tier" teams will try and do.
Canadas defence is going to get critisized...all because people don't see the super huge names on the list in Austria...but they are still miles better than 90% of the teams in the tounrey.
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Uhh.. no, they're getting critisized because they're playing horribly.... rightfully so. It has nothing to do with the lack of big names.
 
Canada's defence wasn't top notch in this game but you guys are underestimating this Latvian team. I was surprised at their speed and skill set. I think this is a good team. A couple of posters called them a tier-two team. If they're a second tier team, they may just be one star player away from a tier one team. I was really impressed with their play.

It's nice to see hockey picking up in places other than the top 7 countries. I hope in a few years the championships will host 18-20 world class teams.

And I wish some of my fellow countrymen would stop with their homer remarks.
 
...Again...I'n not going to put opur defence up on a pedestal...and say "this is what we wanted"...but "very capable" is a fair assesment.
This was DAY ONE!! Look at how we opened up against Austria last year...things worked out pretty good in the end didn't they?
Every tourney its the same thing "They're horrible...they allowed 4 goals against"
They're out of shape,they're going to lose...
and every year...we win.
 
Our defense will get better... Brodeur will get better... our team will get better.

These guys need more time. They needed time in previous tourney's to gel as a team as well. This time they've had more time together with a longer camp than usual, but most of these guys haven't played hockey for a year.

Everyone on the team knows they have to play better too. The offense was great - especially the top line (how much time before we hear Thornton to CBJ or Nash to Bos rumours on these boards??)... but that was against one of the weaker teams in the tourney...

The defense was good enough to win - against one of the weaker teams.

The whole team will have to improve though... you don't win gold medals in tourneys like this one with performances throughout like we saw this morning.

I totally believe that every player on the team must know that.
 
If we "get worse"...Brodeur will bail us out and steal the tournament. Doomsday predictions are taken care of with the best goaltending in the universe.
 
Everest said:
If we "get worse"...Brodeur will bail us out and steal the tournament. Doomsday predictions are taken care of with the best goaltending in the universe.
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well then Brodeur better raise his play.... cause if he doesn't get better than what he showed this morning, he's not bailing our team out when this team is playing against some better competition.

like the defense, Brodeur also has to get better... he didn't have close to a "best goaltending in the universe" performance today.
 
wilka91 said:
and what if everything will only get worse?
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Well, we should be okay because no other powerhouse team played well either...

Russia, Slovakia, and Finland were all equally as bad if not worse than Canada..
 
Anyone who's excited about this game should calm down. In the same breath, anyone who's panicing after this game should calm down. Let's take this for what it is: a game that we didn't play particularly well in, against a lesser oppenent, but let's keep a couple things in mind:
1) This game really doesn't mean much. These first round robin games don't mean much. The convoluted, two round robin system removes any meaning from these contests.
2) At the Worlds, Canada tends to get better as the tournament progresses. I believe we've tied/barely beat lesser teams each of the last two years.

I still have concerns about Canada's endurance/rustiness. Those concerns would be the same if we'd won 10-1.
 
Rob said:
I would like to see Luongo start against the US.

It doesn't matter who starts against Slovenia.
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I agree that Luongo should get a game in this opening round, whether its Slovenia or the USA.

I think had Canada lost to the Czech Republic at the World Cup, Pat Quinn would probably have been criticized for not playing Luongo in one of the preliminary round games. Although he performed well, Luongo was shaky at times as he hadn't played a full game (including World Cup exhibition) since April. To avert this potential criticism, Habscheid should try and start Luongo, in order to keep him sharp in case Brodeur goes down again.
 
Brodeur is the #1 guy...but definarely Roberto needs to get a game in...I'd be suprised if he didn't start against Slovenia...and then back to Brodeur...all the way through until the little girls in skirts are handing out tulips and Golden medals.
 
Everest said:
What real world are you living in? Where is this planet that Canada could have been beat by ANYONE 8-1...let alone Latvia.
I'm not going to say our defence looks like its going to be "fantastic"...but in the "real world" I'm from...they will be plenty capable.
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Canada Cup final 1981: Soviet Union 8, Canada 1

Oh yes: this very same planet.
 
Everest said:
...Again...I'n not going to put opur defence up on a pedestal...and say "this is what we wanted"...but "very capable" is a fair assesment.
This was DAY ONE!! Look at how we opened up against Austria last year...things worked out pretty good in the end didn't they?
Every tourney its the same thing "They're horrible...they allowed 4 goals against"
They're out of shape,they're going to lose...
and every year...we win.
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Lets see...Canada won the last two world championships and before that...hmm...not too many times. In fact exactly two times in the period 1970-2002. How does that compare with your statement?

Based on this and your comments in general, I must presume that you were born in 2002, and never saw any other teams take gold.
 
A stat that really surprised me from the CAN-LAT game was that in the faceoffs won category, nobody from either team had won more than 50% of their draws.
Very equally played in the faceoff circles.

Faceoff leaders:

CANADA:
Kris Draper, 18 FO's (9-9, 50.00%)
Brendan Morrison, 11 FO's (5-6, 45.45%)
Joe Thornton, 20 FO's (9-11, 45.00%)

LATVIJA:
Aleksandrs Semjonovs, 22 FO's (11-11, 50.00%)
Janis Sprukts, 17 FO's (8-9, 47.06%)
Herberts Vasiljevs, 5 FO's (2-3, 40.00%)
 
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