Way Too Early 2025 26 NHL DRAFT Discussion

I'd really like the Kraken to get their hands on Frontell, but I doubt that happens with the way we're picking up points right now.




If we do end up picking later (7-9 range) I like Eklund and Mrtka.







Watching Eklund he reminds me of Alexander Holtz at worst and Hakan Loob at best
 
At the moment we would be drafting 4th. Sure wouldn't complain if that's where we ended up

I'd love it.

Of course we're actually more like to draft 5th or 6th if we finish 4th worst. Still some players I'd love to get around 5th. If we're down picking at 7th that's when I'm starting to worry about a big drop off.
 
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Boston tanking (ten losses in a row and counting) should not be allowed. It is an affront to fair play and common sense.
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Boston tanking (ten losses in a row and counting) should not be allowed. It is an affront to fair play and common sense.
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What can we do about it? It sucks and as much as I would like us to lose through the end of the regular season, I cant never actively root for a tank or our team to loose even though I know it is best for our future ..
 
Boston tanking (ten losses in a row and counting) should not be allowed. It is an affront to fair play and common sense.
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Well, they clearly seem to embrace the tank since the TDL.

BTW: Here's the current race to the bottom.
10th Islanders - 74 points --> 8 games left
9th Anaheim - 74 points --> 7 games left
8th Pittsburgh - 72 points --> 6 games left
7th Philadelphia - 71 points --> 6 games left
6th Buffalo - 71 points --> 8 games left
5h Seattle - 70 points --> 6 games left
4th Boston - 69 points --> 6 games left
3rd Nashville - 62 points --> 6 games left
2nd Chicago - 52 points --> 7 games left
1st San Jose - 50 points --> 7 games left

Our remaining schedule:
@ San Jose
@ L.A. Kings
@ Utah
@ Vegas
vs. St. Louis
vs. L.A. Kings

Cant wait for Bylsma to start Joey in at least five of those six and us somehow still finishing in that 7 - 9 range. :sarcasm:
 
Well, they clearly seem to embrace the tank since the TDL.

BTW: Here's the current race to the bottom.
10th Islanders - 74 points --> 8 games left
9th Anaheim - 74 points --> 7 games left
8th Pittsburgh - 72 points --> 6 games left
7th Philadelphia - 71 points --> 6 games left
6th Buffalo - 71 points --> 8 games left
5h Seattle - 70 points --> 6 games left
4th Boston - 69 points --> 6 games left
3rd Nashville - 62 points --> 6 games left
2nd Chicago - 52 points --> 7 games left
1st San Jose - 50 points --> 7 games left

Our remaining schedule:
@ San Jose
@ L.A. Kings
@ Utah
@ Vegas
vs. St. Louis
vs. L.A. Kings

Cant wait for Bylsma to start Joey in at least five of those six and us somehow still finishing in that 7 - 9 range. :sarcasm:
On paper, the Utah and San Jose games are winnable. 2 against LA, 1 against Blues and 1 against Vegas should be losses but who knows. Like you said, if Bylsma starts Daccord in 4 of these 6 games, who knows then. I was hoping to see more prospects but I am hoping they try to give Winterton some top-6 minutes to see how he does with better linemates.
 
I think at least some of our young prospects would find it motivational to experience a brief taste in the bigs. Most of them are still young enough to be impressionable so that little taste might inspire some to work even more diligently to get here.

No idea what the answer might be but a lot of our prospects are on the small side. Does it take longer for such prospects to develop than bigger prospects? It seems like it might because the need for physical development usually is more pronounced in their cases. It just seems to me, perhaps naively, that we should have more prospects ready for an audition to play in the NHL than we do



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I think at least some of our young prospects would find it motivational to experience a brief taste in the bigs. Most of them are still young enough to be impressionable so that little taste might inspire some to work even more diligently to get here.

No idea what the answer might be but a lot of our prospects are on the small side. Does it take longer for such prospects to develop than bigger prospects? It seems like it might because the need for physical development usually is more pronounced in their cases. It just seems to me, perhaps naively, that we should have more prospects ready for an audition to play in the NHL than we do

The Kraken have only had 4 drafts so far. The overall hit rate is pretty good with several players from the drafts already contributing. The issue is that while there are many prospects that look like their ceiling is a decent to good NHLers the true elite level talent is not there, with maaaaybe Catton as the exception. Wrigth looks like he will be able to produce good numbers but he is more of a sniper than an allround beast C.

I do share the reservation about the many smaller prospects in the Kraken's pool. Would it surprise anyone if it is Rehkopf and Miettinen who end up making the team to go with Nyman?
 
On paper, the Utah and San Jose games are winnable. 2 against LA, 1 against Blues and 1 against Vegas should be losses but who knows. Like you said, if Bylsma starts Daccord in 4 of these 6 games, who knows then. I was hoping to see more prospects but I am hoping they try to give Winterton some top-6 minutes to see how he does with better linemates.

Well, playoff teams(Kings) on the final day of the season are always a bit "sluggish" and taking some time off, unless that game could help their seeding.

Anyways, it will be interestig to see how this team finishes the season and a win or loser point here or there could be the deciding factor between finishing with the 5th or 8th worst record.

Let's see how it goes.
 
We are certainly not expert tankers like the Bruins seem to be but I don't think we climb too high even with some late wins. Buffalo and Philly are also "winning" the meaningless late games. We might pass Pittsburgh but that's about it.

Desnoyers, Bear, McQueen in that order. I doubt they are all gone so I'm not giving any other alternatives. Those are the 3 guys I like the best (unless we win the lottery of course). McQueen is 3rd because his back issues give me some concern. Team needs to do their homework on that if they consider him.
 
We are certainly not expert tankers like the Bruins seem to be but I don't think we climb too high even with some late wins. Buffalo and Philly are also "winning" the meaningless late games. We might pass Pittsburgh but that's about it.

Desnoyers, Bear, McQueen in that order. I doubt they are all gone so I'm not giving any other alternatives. Those are the 3 guys I like the best (unless we win the lottery of course). McQueen is 3rd because his back issues give me some concern. Team needs to do their homework on that if they consider him.
My list is starting to expand a little bit. The top-3 remain unchanged in Schaefer, Misa and Hagens though I am curious how other GM's view Misa after his not great playoffs so far. Schaefer has beeen injured and is sitting as the #1 by default. This is one of the seasons where I don't know if there should be a unanimous #1 given Schaefer is being given the benefit of the doubt. Either of those 3 could be #1. Behind that though, I am not even sure how to rank the rest of the prospects.

Martone
Eklund
Frondell
Desnoyers
Mrtka
Smith

All of those seem legit options to me.
 
I read somewhere that Francis doesn't like to draft D in the first round because they had some bad luck drafting D in the first round when he was in Carolina.

I fully expect Martone to be the pick if he is available where the Kraken are picking. Kraken could use a big, skilled winger like him in the prospect pool.
 
I read somewhere that Francis doesn't like to draft D in the first round because they had some bad luck drafting D in the first round when he was in Carolina.

I fully expect Martone to be the pick if he is available where the Kraken are picking. Kraken could use a big, skilled winger like him in the prospect pool.
Really comes down to where we end up in the draft. If we are drafting in the 6-9 range, I doubt Martone is available. It's hard to see him make it past 4, and certainly not 5.

At that point, I don't know if there is that much of a difference between Frondell, Eklund, Mrtka. Heck, you could theoretically throw Desnoyers and Smith at that level too. We end up with any of those, I would be happy. My concerns about Desnoyers upside are still there but with the way he ended the season and is playing in the playoffs, they are a bit more alleviated.

Also, I don't know if Francis is actively not looking to draft D in the first round because of bad-luck but if he is, that is just stupid and limiting your own options.
 
Really comes down to where we end up in the draft. If we are drafting in the 6-9 range, I doubt Martone is available. It's hard to see him make it past 4, and certainly not 5.

At that point, I don't know if there is that much of a difference between Frondell, Eklund, Mrtka. Heck, you could theoretically throw Desnoyers and Smith at that level too. We end up with any of those, I would be happy. My concerns about Desnoyers upside are still there but with the way he ended the season and is playing in the playoffs, they are a bit more alleviated.

Also, I don't know if Francis is actively not looking to draft D in the first round because of bad-luck but if he is, that is just stupid and limiting your own options.
Never say never. Martone does have issues with his motor/consistency and with some risers like Frondell I would not be surprised to see him drop a couple of spots.
 
Never say never. Martone does have issues with his motor/consistency and with some risers like Frondell I would not be surprised to see him drop a couple of spots.
It certainly could be. And despite his issues I think the potential upside of Martone is way too much to ignore if he makes it to us. Unless he absolutely bombs his interviews that is.
 
Watching Boston sink like a stone has me feeling like they are very much targeting Hagens, and doing what they have to do to get him.

They need a top C as badly as some other teams I can think of, and he's already in town.
 
Watching Boston sink like a stone has me feeling like they are very much targeting Hagens, and doing what they have to do to get him.

They need a top C as badly as some other teams I can think of, and he's already in town.

Apparently this losing streak is record-breaking for the O6 Bruins. I think you are spot on.
 
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It’s pathetic honestly. On paper their roster is miles better than any of the other bottom 5 teams but hey this season didn’t quite break their way so let’s take a team that set the record for points in a season two years ago and bust ass to finish dead last.
 
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The Bruins are legitimately bad. Their two good D are (legitimately) injured and they have two good forwards, one of whom appears to be Morgan Geekie. :laugh:

It's a bad roster.

Did anyone catch how good Geekie and Donato (in Chicago) have been this year? They're both sitting on 29 goals.

Watching Boston sink like a stone has me feeling like they are very much targeting Hagens, and doing what they have to do to get him.

They need a top C as badly as some other teams I can think of, and he's already in town.

Hagens can't justify that, he might be more of a 2C. I have a feeling the Bruins would take Desnoyers or Frondell, maybe over Hagens.
 
Hagens can't justify that, he might be more of a 2C. I have a feeling the Bruins would take Desnoyers or Frondell, maybe over Hagens.

Desnoyers might be a 2C at the pro level as well, but it's entirely possible. Rumor has it that Philly is pretty enamored with him, maybe thinking to draft future Couturier.

Frondell I could see, I think he's awesome but I don't want Boston to get him.:laugh:

I do wonder if Hagens is starting to become undervalued on HF, since he's not as "glowy" this year compared to the other top prospects. He was the consensus #1 last until the past six months and I don't think he'll fall outside the top-5 at all.
 
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Desnoyers might be a 2C at the pro level as well, but it's entirely possible. Rumor has it that Philly is pretty enamored with him, maybe thinking to draft future Couturier.

Frondell I could see, I think he's awesome but I don't want Boston to get him.:laugh:

I do wonder if Hagens is starting to become undervalued on HF, since he's not as "glowy" this year compared to the other top prospects. He was the consensus #1 last until the past six months and I don't think he'll fall outside the top-5 at all.

I think Hagens might slip outside of the top 5. I'm not predicting it but some of the conditions for a "fall" are there.
 

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