Post-Game Talk: Wattanite at the Bell Centre, Habs can Cannots in OT!

Rapala

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Courtesy of The Athletic:

The domination of that 2nd line …
Good point I noticed that as well. I knew I forgot to mention something. :laugh:
It's part and parcel of the effect Jake Evan's line is having on teams they now have to throw resources at that line.

We've gone years without having two lines clicking we are working on having three lines going most of the time with a responsible 4th chipping in.
They were NEVER in trouble and Dach himself should have had a hat trick.
 

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I'm starting to get sick (probably from crow)

Did Slaf try harder ?
He played much better (faster) made some errors but he's a work in progress and as long as he focuses on the simple stuff he's a can't miss.
All we really want from him is to help make that first line a multi-point threat every night he did that in spades last evening.
 
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MSL doesnn't get to choose who to dress in this case. With Laine out there is only Pezzetta on the roster. It's up to HuGo to call someone up. MSL is able to decide how many minutes to give him.
Yup We'd probably go with 7D if Savard was even close to being ready.
Big Guy Back Issues I'd have a back up plan when he gets re-inserted for a game or two.
 
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Remember when he couldn't coach a defensive system, etc etc

He still needs to get better on timeouts and goalie pulls. Monty should have been pulled after 3. That would have served as a de facto timeout too.
We only do hyperbolic here.

Slaf sucks. He's not a developing player... he sucks.
Dach is lazy. It has nothing to do with his injury, he has no heart.
Dobbes is the next Price. Montie was never really a starter anyway and this guy's the next one.

I'm being a little hyperbolic myself here but we see a lot of this. I mean that MSL thread was made after three games.
 

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Dude,

RB and Demidov aren’t even here yet.
As early as last year
I would be saying things like
'Our top 6 isn't missing much right now
CC + Zuke + Slaf + Dach + our 1st round pick + whoever we trade for in the summer, theres lots of possibilities, I have faith in HuGo'

It's months later, the 1st round pick miraculously turned into Demidov (+Hage for good measure) and the trade ended up being Laine
It's crazy looking in hindsight that we were 'hoping' for blank empty chairs to turn into SOMEthing, and boy are they turning out to BE something
Even the '1st round pick' could of been anyone BUT Demidov and we'd be waiting 3 years for someone we 'hope' could be good enough for top6, instead we get surefire top6, top3 even lol for as early as next season

Well I have that same mentality with RD.
Matheson and Savard are RD's right now, but next year should be off the team, they're mentorships have come to and end, and I'm beyond thankful for their services
Carrier is the other but here for 2 more years, and needed
Prospects : Reinbacher , Mailloux (it's just not looking good for Logan sadly)

We are in a 'the #1RD doesn't exist on our team right now, but we have the trade assets to fix that, like we've been fixing the other spots' situation
Right now it's just up in the air like '1st rd pick + someone to trade for' situation we were in last year for the top6
And they executed on it
These guys HAVE a plan

I am POSITIVE they are 'only' focused on looking for this teams real #1RD
#1RD
Carrier
Reinbacher

Should be the plan for 'next' year, but if RB turned himself into a #1RD over the next 3-4 years that would suuuuuure help remedy the whole situation for us too lol
But baby steps
Full confidence in management's planning
It's clearly working (and nothing ever works at 1.000% btw)
 

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My point was more that if you don't want to play him, might as well not suit him at all, play with 11 forwards because that's pretty much what he did anyway.
You do not leave an empty spot on the bench ever.
What happens if a forward goes down and then you are down to ten men.
This team was not as fresh as a daisy and St Louis would have been lambasted if he ever did that and I'd be leading the charge.
The question for me is how is Pezz benefiting this team as a 13th forward and should Hughes do something about it.
 

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As early as last year
I would be saying things like
'Our top 6 isn't missing much right now
CC + Zuke + Slaf + Dach + our 1st round pick + whoever we trade for in the summer, theres lots of possibilities, I have faith in HuGo'

It's months later, the 1st round pick miraculously turned into Demidov (+Hage for good measure) and the trade ended up being Laine
It's crazy looking in hindsight that we were 'hoping' for blank empty chairs to turn into SOMEthing, and boy are they turning out to BE something
Even the '1st round pick' could of been anyone BUT Demidov and we'd be waiting 3 years for someone we 'hope' could be good enough for top6, instead we get surefire top6, top3 even lol for as early as next season

Well I have that same mentality with RD.
Matheson and Savard are RD's right now, but next year should be off the team, they're mentorships have come to and end, and I'm beyond thankful for their services
Carrier is the other but here for 2 more years, and needed
Prospects : Reinbacher , Mailloux (it's just not looking good for Logan sadly)

We are in a 'the #1RD doesn't exist on our team right now, but we have the trade assets to fix that, like we've been fixing the other spots' situation
Right now it's just up in the air like '1st rd pick + someone to trade for' situation we were in last year for the top6
And they executed on it
These guys HAVE a plan

I am POSITIVE they are 'only' focused on looking for this teams real #1RD
#1RD
Carrier
Reinbacher

Should be the plan for 'next' year, but if RB turned himself into a #1RD over the next 3-4 years that would suuuuuure help remedy the whole situation for us too lol
But baby steps
Full confidence in management's planning
It's clearly working (and nothing ever works at 1.000% btw)
It's what we've said for years. Draft high for an extended period of time. Trade for picks and prospects. Weaponize cap space. Stockpile young talent...

Some won't pan out but some will. Is it luck that we got Hutson at 62? Let's say for the sake of argument that it is. But at the end of the day, when you're constantly getting extra picks, sooner or later some are going to pan out. When you have those extra picks you can take the homerun swings because you've already drafted what you needed.

Look at all of the rebuild teams over the decades. Several picks and many don't work out. But some do. And when you accumulate talent like that, you can then use those non-superstar picks as assets to address other needs. As you said, if RB doesn't work out it won't matter now. Why? Because we have so many assets to trade with that we can just go get what we need. Same with the center position.

Beck, Roy, RB, Mailloux, Demidov, Fowler... that's a hell of a lot of talent coming soon. Again, some may not make it but it doesn't matter. Somebody would trade for any of those prospects. Anyone who says it's luck doesn't know what they're talking about. Lucky to get Demidov at 5th? Okay. But we drafted 1st in a really weak draft... it all evens out. Hutson was a direct result of a trade. Forget 'sake of argument' here. That's not luck.
 

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Huet was very good for us. Its not disrespectful. Its just what he is. A great story that holds space until the next goaltending savior of the franchise takes the torch.



Oh Aebischer. Would star fish on the ice whenever the play broke down.
Yeah maybe I'm just trippin' idk this season lowkey reminds me of 05-06 except it follows a nice rebuild rather than featuring established NHLers who have already carved out their path. Obviously we started that season hot as hell, but this way seems more natural (start like shit and then progressively learn how to overcome).

The greatest thing that ever happened to this franchise was being okay with an actual rebuild. I've never had as much hope for this team as I do right now (and I have delusional levels of faith). Right now I don't even feel like I need to pray for a miracle for good things to happen.
 

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We only do hyperbolic here.

Slaf sucks. He's not a developing player... he sucks.
Dach is lazy. It has nothing to do with his injury, he has no heart.
Dobbes is the next Price. Montie was never really a starter anyway and this guy's the next one.

I'm being a little hyperbolic myself here but we see a lot of this. I mean that MSL thread was made after three games.
The rhetoric in the MSL thread was a low point for the board.

Some of the worst takes I've seen in honestly the last 15 years of being around here.
 

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The rhetoric in the MSL thread was a low point for the board.

Some of the worst takes I've seen in honestly the last 15 years of being around here.
It was terrible. The Dach thread was worse. The guy's coming off a horrific injury and not only are people questioning his character, they're re-writing history to make it seem as though he was never a good player to begin with...
 

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I think he's got more ability than huet.

Nobody has started more games and he's generally been good. He deserves some slack.

But I get your point now that I read it again. He isn't their future guy.
He wishes he was as good as Huet. Huet was a solid goalie who didn't collapse like Monty seems to every once in awhile.
 

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It was terrible. The Dach thread was worse. The guy's coming off a horrific injury and not only are people questioning his character, they're re-writing history to make it seem as though he was never a good player to begin with...
I don't waste my time on those threads, just like I use the ignore button liberally. I only have a relatively small amount of time to allocate for hockey and online forums to begin with. I know what to expect from certain threads and specific participants. I root for the team and enjoy the game. Life is too short to give bandwidth to nihilists.
 
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when most of the fans are saying that the impact of Carrier is underestimated, doesn't that mean that in fact, his impact isn't underestimated ? :badidea:
You know you should be writing Koans for the Zen Buddhists.

I bet you Shoresy gave a speech in the locker room before the game, and Ghule decided he was the man that would set the tone.
What a beauty !!!
Who? Did we make a player move and I didn't know about it?
 
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Forgot how amazing it feels to be excited about the habs and wanting to watch them play. My only concern is I don’t think we have a future number 1 D in the system. I was hoping for Schaefer but I trust that HuGo can maybe find what we need via trade in the end. Man the playoffs this year would be sick!!
 

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Forgot how amazing it feels to be excited about the habs and wanting to watch them play. My only concern is I don’t think we have a future number 1 D in the system. I was hoping for Schaefer but I trust that HuGo can maybe find what we need via trade in the end. Man the playoffs this year would be sick!!
Hutson is the #1 D. Like Hughes in Vancouver or Makar in Colorado. And Guhle is a darn good #2.
 

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Hutson is the #1 D. Like Hughes in Vancouver or Makar in Colorado. And Guhle is a darn good #2.
Fair I can deal with that if Reinbacher hits, I think he’d be the perfect Hutson complement and all situation 30-40 points D. We’ll see, this is just the beginning, the puzzle pieces are falling into place and it’s exciting for sure!
 
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He wishes he was as good as Huet. Huet was a solid goalie who didn't collapse like Monty seems to every once in awhile.

Huet was a very technical butterfly goalie and made the most of his abilities. I liked him for saving that 05/06 season.

I think Monty is pretty darn solid. He is currently the most used goalie in the league so you expect some turbulence, but he's bailed this team out alot.

I'll take Monty because he is controlled but also more athletic and much bigger in goal.
 
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Huet was a very technical butterfly goalie.

I think Monty is pretty darn solid. He is currently the most used goalie in the league so you expect some turbulence, but he's bailed this team out alot.

I'll take Monty because he is controlled but also more athletic and much bigger in goal.
I remember reading a scouting report on Huet before his first game with the Habs. First, that he was a guy that would win for you when the stakes are high. The second thing was that he had a surprisingly good glove hand. This last point struck me as odd, because all kids in NAmerica play baseball. How could he develop that skill as much growing up in France?
 

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