Matsun
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- Aug 15, 2010
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13-14 is considered one of Crosbys best regular seasons and 08-09 is seen as one of his worst. I gor the idea to compare these regular seasons since Crosby and Getzlaf scored around the same amount of points both seasons. First the top 5 scorers in 09:
Now lets see 2014:
Obviously 13-14 looks more impressive for Crosby, but there are some things that stand out. First off 08-09 Malkin and Ovechkin are clearly better than any player 13-14 Crosby competed against, secondly the top players in 08-09 played more games than Crosby while the top per game scorers in 13-14 missed alot of games. Here are the players with the best scoring pace in the 2 seasons.
If we remove Ovechkin and Malkin from 08-09 I think these seasons start looking really close.
Notice how healthy the top per game scorers in 08-09 were. Crosby goes from playing the 2nd fewest games among per game leaders to playing the most. 13-14 was also the season Stamkos had his first terrible injury, otherwise he would likely would've been hovering around 95 points too.
Crosby has gone from slightly being outscored by Malkin in 08-09 to clearly outscoring him in 13-14, but how much of that is because Crosby has improved and how much is because Malkin has regressed? If there was a peak Ovechkin in the league in 2013-14 would Crosby outscore him? Not sure. Clearly Crosby had a better season in 2013-14, but I wonder how much that was due to him being better than 08-09 and how much was due to outside factors.
| 2008-09 | GP | P |
| Malkin | 82 | 113 |
| Ovechkin | 81 | 110 |
| Crosby | 77 | 103 |
| Datsuyk | 82 | 97 |
| Parise | 82 | 94 |
| 2013-14 | GP | P |
| Crosby | 80 | 104 |
| Getzlaf | 77 | 87 |
| Giroux | 82 | 86 |
| Seguin | 80 | 84 |
| Perry | 81 | 82 |
Obviously 13-14 looks more impressive for Crosby, but there are some things that stand out. First off 08-09 Malkin and Ovechkin are clearly better than any player 13-14 Crosby competed against, secondly the top players in 08-09 played more games than Crosby while the top per game scorers in 13-14 missed alot of games. Here are the players with the best scoring pace in the 2 seasons.
| 2008-09 | GP | Pace | P |
| Ovechkin | 79 | 114 | 110 |
| Malkin | 82 | 113 | 113 |
| Crosby | 77 | 110 | 103 |
| Semin (!) | 62 | 104 | 79 |
| Datsuyk | 82 | 97 | 97 |
| 2013-14 | GP | Pace | P |
| Crosby | 80 | 107 | 104 |
| Malkin | 60 | 98 | 72 |
| Tavares | 59 | 95 | 68 |
| Getzlaf | 77 | 93 | 87 |
| Hall | 75 | 87 | 80 |
If we remove Ovechkin and Malkin from 08-09 I think these seasons start looking really close.
| 2008-09 | GP | Pace | P |
| Crosby | 77 | 110 | 103 |
| Semin (!) | 62 | 104 | 79 |
| Datsuyk | 82 | 97 | 97 |
| Kovalchuk | 79 | 94 | 91 |
| Parise | 82 | 94 | 94 |
| Getzlaf | 81 | 92 | 91 |
| 2013-14 | GP | Pace | P |
| Crosby | 80 | 107 | 104 |
| Malkin | 60 | 98 | 72 |
| Tavares | 59 | 95 | 68 |
| Getzlaf | 77 | 93 | 87 |
| Hall | 75 | 87 | 80 |
| Seguin | 80 | 86 | 84 |
Notice how healthy the top per game scorers in 08-09 were. Crosby goes from playing the 2nd fewest games among per game leaders to playing the most. 13-14 was also the season Stamkos had his first terrible injury, otherwise he would likely would've been hovering around 95 points too.
Crosby has gone from slightly being outscored by Malkin in 08-09 to clearly outscoring him in 13-14, but how much of that is because Crosby has improved and how much is because Malkin has regressed? If there was a peak Ovechkin in the league in 2013-14 would Crosby outscore him? Not sure. Clearly Crosby had a better season in 2013-14, but I wonder how much that was due to him being better than 08-09 and how much was due to outside factors.
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