Value of: Warren Foegele UFA

[Cup or Bust]

A smart team in a tight cap situation should be able to replace a player like Foegele rather then resigning him to a risky cap hit. It depends on what he wants though and I don't blame him if he decides to try the UFA market and get what he can based on this season.

 

[ManofSteel55]

As other Oil fans have already mentioned, 3mil per is about the max we can give him. I’d like to see him back. Wouldn’t blame him for chasing the money, but if it comes down to 3 mil to play on a contender with childhood friend McDavid or 4 mil to play in Utah or something, I’d hope he’d take the pay cut. Hard to say though

Especially if they could just give him an extra year on his deal. Ideally, he's a 3M, 2 or 3 year contract, so just offer him 3M X 4 years and hopefully he sees the value in that extra year.

 

[bossram]

would love him in NJ, and he would fill a need for sure

hopefully something like 3 x $4

Yes. He's one of my top targets for the Devils. He is probably looking at a $4M AAV and I would be willing to pay that. Foegele: $4M x 4. Debrusk: $5.25 x 5. Trenin: $2M x 2. Aube Kubel: $0.9M x 2.

Foegele - Hughes - Bratt
Debrusk - Hischier - Meier
Palat - Haula - Mercer
Trenin - Lazar - NAK
Extra

 

[ManofSteel55]

Yes. He's one of my top targets for the Devils. He is probably looking at a $4M AAV and I would be willing to pay that. Foegele: $4M x 4. Debrusk: $5.25 x 5. Trenin: $2M x 2. Aube Kubel: $0.9M x 2.

Foegele - Hughes - Bratt
Debrusk - Hischier - Meier
Palat - Haula - Mercer
Trenin - Lazar - NAK
Extra

If Debrusk only costs 1.25M more, teams would be smarter to line up for him. That's what I'm hoping the Oilers can do.

 

[Smitty426]

Yes. He's one of my top targets for the Devils. He is probably looking at a $4M AAV and I would be willing to pay that. Foegele: $4M x 4. Debrusk: $5.25 x 5. Trenin: $2M x 2. Aube Kubel: $0.9M x 2.

Foegele - Hughes - Bratt
Debrusk - Hischier - Meier
Palat - Haula - Mercer
Trenin - Lazar - NAK
Extra

He'd cost assets but wouldn't Ross Colton make more sense if WF does in fact want that kinda cash? Also assets but how bout Makenstyn in WSH? Lastly Duhaime just to be a petty 4th liner with Trenin and Lazar instead of NAK. Similar ideas to yours.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I targeted him as an option for upgrading the Habs middle/bottom 6, but I wouldn't want then to pay 4 mill + for him

At times watching him you just see the 7 and how he skates and you're kind of excited as you think it's McDavid. He's got some nice wheels, but the edges aren't as good and the puck handling is significantly less, but it does make you think of McDavid I swear.

 

[bossram]

He'd cost assets but wouldn't Ross Colton make more sense if WF does in fact want that kinda cash? Also assets but how bout Makenstyn in WSH? Lastly Duhaime just to be a petty 4th liner with Trenin and Lazar instead of NAK. Similar ideas to yours.

Well yeah, he'd cost assets. COL traded a 2nd to get Colton, so NJ would have to trade at least that to acquire him (I don't see why COL is trading him anyway, so it will probably cost more).

Foegele is a pure UFA. No acquisition cost. Malenstyn is not a UFA, and again, I don't see why WAS would trade him. He's young and will be cheap. You'd have to largely overpay in a trade.

I think NAK is a superior player to Duhaime. He's been pretty effective on WAS's buried DZ start line, with Dowd and Malenstyn.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The smart contract is 3x3, anything more and he won't live up to it.

 

[Smitty426]

Well yeah, he'd cost assets. COL traded a 2nd to get Colton, so NJ would have to trade at least that to acquire him (I don't see why COL is trading him anyway, so it will probably cost more).

Foegele is a pure UFA. No acquisition cost. Malenstyn is not a UFA, and again, I don't see why WAS would trade him. He's young and will be cheap. You'd have to largely overpay in a trade.

I think NAK is a superior player to Duhaime. He's been pretty effective on WAS's buried DZ start line, with Dowd and Malenstyn.

Avs apparently have a cap crunch coming. I know WF is UFA, but Edm fans say yeah good at 3, not 4 so that why I suggested RC. I technically would like both. This team needs fast heavy players. NAK would be OK not the biggest guy.

 

[archangel2]

Hope the oilers give like 5 years at 4mill. He is a 3rd liner and is paid just right at 2.75. Any higher he goes on the over paid team

 

[bossram]

Avs apparently have a cap crunch coming. I know WF is UFA, but Edm fans say yeah good at 3, not 4 so that why I suggested RC. I technically would like both. This team needs fast heavy players. NAK would be OK not the biggest guy.

Well yeah, EDM fans are saying that because they also have a cap crunch and literally just can't afford him.

Colton has a $4M AAV, so there is no discount compared to what I project Foegele to get.

NAK is fast and defensively responsible. I think that's more important than just being "big".

 

[dgibb10]

Yes. He's one of my top targets for the Devils. He is probably looking at a $4M AAV and I would be willing to pay that. Foegele: $4M x 4. Debrusk: $5.25 x 5. Trenin: $2M x 2. Aube Kubel: $0.9M x 2.

Foegele - Hughes - Bratt
Debrusk - Hischier - Meier
Palat - Haula - Mercer
Trenin - Lazar - NAK
Extra

I'd rather use the debrusk money on a LD and put Holtz into the lineup.

 

[bossram]

I'd rather use the debrusk money on a LD and put Holtz into the lineup.

My personal projected roster has a cap space for a LD. My preference is a Marcus Pettersson trade.

 

[LTIR]

Oilers will let him walk and add a cup chasing veteran for league minimum ala Perry.

 

[zar]

As an Oiler fan, my sweet spot is $3.5m AAV. Anything more and the Oilers have to wish him all the best. Due to some bad contracts the Oilers can not afford any over payments, even small ones.

 

[ManofSteel55]

As an Oiler fan, my sweet spot is $3.5m AAV. Anything more and the Oilers have to wish him all the best. Due to some bad contracts the Oilers can not afford any over payments, even small ones.

I wonder what Henrique would take. He's fitting in well and is more versatile than McLovin

 

[Smitty426]

Well yeah, EDM fans are saying that because they also have a cap crunch and literally just can't afford him.

Colton has a $4M AAV, so there is no discount compared to what I project Foegele to get.

NAK is fast and defensively responsible. I think that's more important than just being "big".

I'm ok with NAK and BIG is a large part of what Fitz NEEDS to do

 

[bossram]

I'm ok with NAK and BIG is a large part of what Fitz NEEDS to do

Brendan Smith is big. He sucks.

Being big but unable to play just means you suck. There is no inherent value in size alone.

 

[Smitty426]

Brendan Smith is big. He sucks.

Being big but unable to play just means you suck. There is no inherent value in size alone.

Brendan Smith is the only guy on this team with balls! He was supposed to be a fill in defender, not f'n baby sitting everyday. If Bahl and his 6'6 230 frame would show up and use it maybe we're not discussing, HE sucks!

 

[McShogun99]

Edmontons cap situation is going to be tight for the next few years. The smart move would be to let him walk and replace him with Holloway. They need to have like 8+ million in space cleared for the start of 2025 for Draisaitl and Bouchard's new contracts.

 

[Mr Positive]

Hope the oilers give like 5 years at 4mill. He is a 3rd liner and is paid just right at 2.75. Any higher he goes on the over paid team

We won't. We have upcoming extensions and they are all expensive. Holloway is replacing Foegele

 

[Smitty426]

Brendan Smith is big. He sucks.

Being big but unable to play just means you suck. There is no inherent value in size alone.

I know, I watched Kevin Bahl each game!

 

[Chainshot]

The smart contract is 3x3, anything more and he won't live up to it.

When do GM's make smart contract decisions in UFA?

 

[My3Sons]

When do GM's make smart contract decisions in UFA?

Rarely

 

[dgibb10]

When do GM's make smart contract decisions in UFA?

Everyone is comparing UFA contracts to RFA contracts and ELCs all the time. Those require other assets, not just money, to acquire.

Generally yes, your UFA contracts should be your worst contracts money wise. But they also don't require you to give up any other assets