Value of: Vladimir Tarasenko at the tradeline

[SeanMoneyHands]

Highly doubt the Blues resign him, I think they deal Tarasenko by the deadline to a contender as a rental. Who do you see getting him and what would the Blues want?

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[Beauterham]

Highly doubt the Blues resign him, I think they deal Tarasenko by the deadline to a contender as a rental. Who do you see getting him and what would the Blues want?

1st + B-prospect for Tarasenko. 1st + A-prospect for Tarasenko @50%?

 

[Takurcitee]

Calgary should be good trade partner

 

[BonMorrison]

After yesterday this has David Poile written all over it!

Our 1st round pick + Tomasino for Tarasenko and then we'll make the wildcard and get swept out!

jk he'd never waive to come to this garbage team.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He'd look good in the Leafs top 6

 

[Djp]

Highly doubt the Blues resign him, I think they deal Tarasenko by the deadline to a contender as a rental. Who do you see getting him and what would the Blues want?

people will say 1st+. The problem is the real money owed. It’s $5.5M this season

Kane/ Toews is $2.9M in real money.

if you try to include a pass through team in lowering cap, the real dollar owed matters.

25% of 5.5 is near 1.4M
25% of $2.9M is near 725K.

because thst real dollars matter…if you include a third team they will be asking fir a 2nd/3rd to retain. Thst will cause a 2st to become 2 2nd+ prospect or 2+3+ prospect. The third team takes thst 2nd/3rd in the deal.

 

[AslanRH]

How hard will he work that NTC?

 

[PocketNines]

Yeah, no ... Tarasenko's real dollars due at the deadline will be under 1.4M and is not even slightly a barrier. Evidence that someone else is even cheaper does not change this fact. If the Blues retain 50% then a team can get him for 700K real dollars. The Blues can also take an expiring contract back if needed.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Would venture to guess at the minimum he’ll get a 1st and a prospect in return. Not sure if the value of the prospect or if an additional mid round pick would also be added. I also highly doubt the Blues would have any issue retaining half as it gets closer to the deadline if necessary to facilitate a trade. Same probably goes for ROR if they move him like they should

 

[McSuper]

people will say 1st+. The problem is the real money owed. It’s $5.5M this season

Kane/ Toews is $2.9M in real money.

if you try to include a pass through team in lowering cap, the real dollar owed matters.

25% of 5.5 is near 1.4M
25% of $2.9M is near 725K.

because thst real dollars matter…if you include a third team they will be asking fir a 2nd/3rd to retain. Thst will cause a 2st to become 2 2nd+ prospect or 2+3+ prospect. The third team takes thst 2nd/3rd in the deal.

I disagree. Cup contenders are more concern about fitting the cap hit onto their team .

Edmonton was reported interested in Kane while being up against the cap. Kane cap hit or 10.5M at 50% retained is still a 5.25M cap hit which is problematic for the Oilers. It would take double retention.
Tarasenko is 5.5M with 50% retained that is a 2.75M cap hit so the Oilers could send back a 3M contract to make it work so no need to involve a 3rd team.

 

[wintersej]

1st + B-prospect for Tarasenko. 1st + A-prospect for Tarasenko @50%?

Who can take him without 50% off at the TDL? I think retention isn’t going to have much of a premium this year because there won’t be other teams that don’t need it to play off of.

 

[jjniner]

If they sweeten the deal for Stl to retain salary, why would they not? Not bringing in any more dollars to improve this tear? Correct?

 

[Detroit Knights]

1st + B-prospect for Tarasenko. 1st + A-prospect for Tarasenko @50%?

50% would only be relevant for the close to cap teams like boston, but I don't see them getting rid of an a-prospect and their first when they are doing so well already.

I would assume other teams of the Boston's caliber would feel the same way and be up to the cap as well. Didn't look at capfriendly, so don't know.

I am not so sure he gets a first and a prospect if he is indeed not going to be signed by STL with their history. Of course they are going to try and get that for him, but it might just be a first or a second and b-level prospect.

No it isn't that much of a return, but the alternative is him walking for nothing like gaudreau.

 

[Djp]

I disagree. Cup contenders are more concern about fitting the cap hit onto their team .

Edmonton was reported interested in Kane while being up against the cap. Kane cap hit or 10.5M at 50% retained is still a 5.25M cap hit which is problematic for the Oilers. It would take double retention.
Tarasenko is 5.5M with 50% retained that is a 2.75M cap hit so the Oilers could send back a 3M contract to make it work so no need to involve a 3rd team.

therr is a difference between cap hit and real money owed

kane has a 10.5M cap but with bonus money paid out his actual pay in season is $2.9M
Tarasenko Carrie’s a $7.5M cap hit and is owEd $5.5M n real money this season

at 50% both are high hits of 5.25 and 3.75
so they need a third team fir additional retention to get them down to 2.125 and $1.375 thst many teams could afford near the deadline.

the issue is what does the third team get? It has nothing to do with cap hit. Instead it has everything to do with actual money out of their pocket. Kane will be near half that of Tarasenko.

based on past trades $500,000 in actual owed money equates to a 2nd round pic…otpr around what Tarasenko could be owed when traded. Kane is less so he will cost a middle team less to do…like a 4th.

the other factor at pkay is fitting him u der the cap. Some teams might need to send out a cap dump not many teams have this to unload at the deadline that is expiring this year. If it’s an actual good player then that will affect picks/ prospects

 

[Memento]

As a Blues fan, I'll take a first and Matt Coronato for a 50% retained Tarasenko. If that's too much, I'll take a first and the best defense prospect you're willing to move.

 

[TGWL]

therr is a difference between cap hit and real money owed

kane has a 10.5M cap but with bonus money paid out his actual pay in season is $2.9M
Tarasenko Carrie’s a $7.5M cap hit and is owEd $5.5M n real money this season

at 50% both are high hits of 5.25 and 3.75
so they need a third team fir additional retention to get them down to 2.125 and $1.375 thst many teams could afford near the deadline.

the issue is what does the third team get? It has nothing to do with cap hit. Instead it has everything to do with actual money out of their pocket. Kane will be near half that of Tarasenko.

based on past trades $500,000 in actual owed money equates to a 2nd round pic…otpr around what Tarasenko could be owed when traded. Kane is less so he will cost a middle team less to do…like a 4th.

the other factor at pkay is fitting him u der the cap. Some teams might need to send out a cap dump not many teams have this to unload at the deadline that is expiring this year. If it’s an actual good player then that will affect picks/ prospects

When you leave your job, do you hand back all the money paid by your old employer and then stick out your hands for your new employer to pay you the full, yearly salary?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

1st + B-prospect for Tarasenko. 1st + A-prospect for Tarasenko @50%?

What about the Leafs? Can he play the left side?

Tarasenko-Matthews-Marner would be sick,

 

[bleedblue1223]

What about the Leafs? Can he play the left side?

Tarasenko-Matthews-Marner would be sick,

He's always been a RW.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

As a Blues fan, I'll take a first and Matt Coronato for a 50% retained Tarasenko. If that's too much, I'll take a first and the best defense prospect you're willing to move.

That's too much.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I'm going to guess that if he's traded with double retention, the other team is Detroit.

 

[devils29]

If the Devils are still in the running come TDL I'd do 1st + prospect like Nolan Foote. Think its important to show the locker room that management has belief in the team as well as bring in another vet with experience.

 

[Memento]

That's too much.

Tarasenko at 50% is too much for a first and your best defensive prospect that you're willing to move? I understand about Coranato, but the defensive prospect isn't too much, I don't think?

 

[banks]

I'm definitely calling it "The Tradeline" from now on.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Tarasenko at 50% is too much for a first and your best defensive prospect that you're willing to move? I understand about Coranato, but the defensive prospect isn't too much, I don't think?

I agree.

 

[JetsFan815]

I am surprised that people are thinking a 1st in a Tarasenko trade... he hasn't been great at 5v5, granted the Blues haven't been great but still a 1st seems like overpayment.